---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/21/09: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:09 AM - Re: Flagstaff and Sedona flight (EAFerguson@AOL.COM) 2. 07:16 AM - Re: Gary's pictures (GARY PENNINGTON) 3. 07:16 AM - Re: Sedona Trip (GARY PENNINGTON) 4. 07:19 AM - Re: Flagstaff and Sedona flight (GARY PENNINGTON) 5. 07:33 AM - Re: Flight to Lake Havasu (GARY PENNINGTON) 6. 07:33 AM - Re: Flagstaff and Sedona flight (GARY PENNINGTON) 7. 07:46 AM - Re: Flagstaff and Sedona flight (GARY PENNINGTON) 8. 07:52 AM - Re: Flagstaff and Sedona flight (GARY PENNINGTON) 9. 12:25 PM - Re: Flagstaff and Sedona flight (Jim Langley) 10. 12:34 PM - Re: Flagstaff and Sedona flight (N1BZRich@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:46 AM PST US From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Great narratives for Buz to put in the newsletter. We just don't have the spectacular scenery like this around Atlanta. One of my most memorable flights was to fly the Grand Canyon at rim height from Lake Powell until we ran out of canyon. Obviously that was before the Canyon flight restrictions came about. Earl Ferguson **************Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:09 AM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Gary's pictures Hello Tex I would be honored. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Tex Mantell To: lightning List Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:55 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Gary's pictures Thanks for the stories and the pictures. Makes me want to finish mine as quick as possible. I sit here with snow up to my rear and cant wait till spring. Keep those trips pictures coming and don't be surprised if someday you find a lightning from New York on your wing tip as you fly over those hills. Tex http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:09 AM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Sedona Trip Thanks Pete Happy flying Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter and Jan Disher To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Sedona Trip Just Great photos Gary and enjoyed reading about your trip. Many thanks Pete D http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:01 AM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Good morning Bear Congratulations on getting your bird home. Katie is a good pilot. I did part of my transition training with her. I've been to Clearwater. I really like Florida....the greenery, the water, the beaches. I've always wanted to fly to Florida and cruise up and down the beaches. I envy you. You have some very enjoyable times ahead. Happy flying. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: n5pb@aol.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Gary, Sounds like you had a superb flight. The pics are stellar! Katie from Shelbyville, TN ferried my lightning to Clearwater, Fl today. She had a beautiful clear blue day. I'm gald to have N82PB "home:....Now I can start my flying and share experiences too. Bear -----Original Message----- From: GARY PENNINGTON To: lightning-list Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 6:57 pm Subject: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Hello everyone. I flew again this morning, surprise, surprise. After yesterdays flight to Prescott, I wasn't planning another trip but the weather was too good to resist. I now have over 90 hours on my little bird and she is purring like a kitten. I filed my Flight Plan with Prescott FSS leaving from Marana Regional Airport direct to Page Airport, (adjacent to Lake Powell). I've always wanted to see Lake Powell and this seemed like the perfect opportunity. As an added bonus, I would pass East of the Grand Canyon. Although there are rigid flight restrictions over the Canyon, I would be close enough to photograph it. The weather forecast predicted mostly clear skies with minor Cirrus clouds along the route. Wind was calm. I activated my Flight Plan after climbing to around 8000' and shortly thereafter, contacted Albuquerque Center for Flight Following. Life is good! The first 50 miles or so are not special. Not much to see except empty desert. I traded 8000' for 10,500' to clear the Superstition Mountains East of Phoenix. After reaching 10.5, the EFIS indicated a 26 mph wind and lucky for me, it was mostly a tail wind. My ground speed over the rugged Superstitions was 161 mph. Now that's cruisin! A few minutes later I was over Apache Lake with Roosevelt Lake in the distance. (see the two photos attached). During the Summer, boaters are buzzing the lakes helter skelter, but today, not a sole was in sight. North of the Payson, is the Mogollon Rim.... a sharply rising mountain range extending East to West for many miles. It is a very popular escape during the hot Summer months for desert rats in Phoenix and Tucson. For now, it is capped in snow. (see photo). About 60 miles or so North of Payson is Flagstaff. It is known for the "San Francisco Peaks" reaching 12,633' skyward and the "Sunset Crater", an extinct volcano. Most of the area is currently covered in snow and the outside air temp at 10,500' was 10 degrees. Burrrrrr! As luck would have it, I had to pee. Damn. I knew I would not make it to Page. I had to make a decision...Flagstaff or Sedona? Since field elevation at Flagstaff is 7014' and the temp was in the high teens, Sedona was my choice. I cancelled Flight Following and my Flight Plan and redirected to Sedona. I have attached two photos of Sedona...the first is just South of town, (showing the San Francisco Peaks in the distance), and the other is at the Sedona Airport. Though Lake Powell will have to wait till another day, all is not lost, for this has been a great day. I hope you enjoyed the trip as much as I did. Till the next adventure, happy flying! Gary Pennington http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:04 AM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flight to Lake Havasu Thanks for the info Buz. So far, I haven't experienced any problems with Auto Fuel. While navigating Flagstaff yesterday, (it was very cold), I anticipated carb ice on my descent, but had no problems. I read an article a couple years ago in "Kit Planes" magazine on the use of AvGas. Photos showed combustion chambers of aircraft engines after using AvGas. Surfaces were encrusted with lead deposits which eventually caused seizure. I'm rationalizing the use of Auto Fuel as beneficial because it does not contain lead. I suppose time will tell. Anyway, thanks again for your insight. Happy flying. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: N1BZRich@aol.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:01 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flight to Lake Havasu In a message dated 2/5/2009 7:24:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pennington@q.com writes: I don't know how to explain this, but as I noted before, my engine burns less Premium Auto Fuel per hour than AvGas. Gary, I just re read your Lake Havasu flight report and this time actually noticed your statement / question (above) about the difference of auto gas verses AvGas fuel burns. And the fact that you got slightly better fuel burns and thus used less fuel when you were using auto gas. The reason for this is that auto gas is more volatile than avgas, and because of this you may actually see slightly lower fuel usages. There can be some downsides, such as higher vaporization, a higher potential for vapor lock, and perhaps more carburetor icing. Another thing to remember is that auto gas has looser manufacturing specifications and quality control is less stringent, so actual quality and performance may vary widely from load to load. Hope this helps. Blue Skies, Buz ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:38 AM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Hello Jim How is that gorgeous bird of yours? Thanks for your comments. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Langley To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:42 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Beautiful Gary. Thanks for sharing! Jim! From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:57 PM To: lightning-list Subject: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Hello everyone. I flew again this morning, surprise, surprise. After yesterdays flight to Prescott, I wasn't planning another trip but the weather was too good to resist. I now have over 90 hours on my little bird and she is purring like a kitten. I filed my Flight Plan with Prescott FSS leaving from Marana Regional Airport direct to Page Airport, (adjacent to Lake Powell). I've always wanted to see Lake Powell and this seemed like the perfect opportunity. As an added bonus, I would pass East of the Grand Canyon. Although there are rigid flight restrictions over the Canyon, I would be close enough to photograph it. The weather forecast predicted mostly clear skies with minor Cirrus clouds along the route. Wind was calm. I activated my Flight Plan after climbing to around 8000' and shortly thereafter, contacted Albuquerque Center for Flight Following. Life is good! The first 50 miles or so are not special. Not much to see except empty desert. I traded 8000' for 10,500' to clear the Superstition Mountains East of Phoenix. After reaching 10.5, the EFIS indicated a 26 mph wind and lucky for me, it was mostly a tail wind. My ground speed over the rugged Superstitions was 161 mph. Now that's cruisin! A few minutes later I was over Apache Lake with Roosevelt Lake in the distance. (see the two photos attached). During the Summer, boaters are buzzing the lakes helter skelter, but today, not a sole was in sight. North of the Payson, is the Mogollon Rim.... a sharply rising mountain range extending East to West for many miles. It is a very popular escape during the hot Summer months for desert rats in Phoenix and Tucson. For now, it is capped in snow. (see photo). About 60 miles or so North of Payson is Flagstaff. It is known for the "San Francisco Peaks" reaching 12,633' skyward and the "Sunset Crater", an extinct volcano. Most of the area is currently covered in snow and the outside air temp at 10,500' was 10 degrees. Burrrrrr! As luck would have it, I had to pee. Damn. I knew I would not make it to Page. I had to make a decision...Flagstaff or Sedona? Since field elevation at Flagstaff is 7014' and the temp was in the high teens, Sedona was my choice. I cancelled Flight Following and my Flight Plan and redirected to Sedona. I have attached two photos of Sedona...the first is just South of town, (showing the San Francisco Peaks in the distance), and the other is at the Sedona Airport. Though Lake Powell will have to wait till another day, all is not lost, for this has been a great day. I hope you enjoyed the trip as much as I did. Till the next adventure, happy flying! Gary Pennington http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:36 AM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Good morning Clive Most of my flight traversed rough terrain. There were no suitable landing spots and very few roads over the Superstition Mountains, the forested areas North of the lakes or the mountainous areas in and around Sedona. I do worry about engine outs when flying over that sort of terrain. I do not have a chute in this plane and I don't believe many people do. Happy flying in Europe. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: James, Clive R To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:28 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight > Great story and pictures, Thanks Gary. Puts a whole new light on Flight Plans, in Europe unless you're IFR we only use them for crossing International Borders. In the case of the desert and mountain flying........ Or was there lots of highways underneath just out of the picture? How many folk in the US have ballistic parachutes? In Spain I noted a lot of places close by where the land out options were nil, lots of planes there had parachutes. Great stuff, can't wait to start touring again. Regards, Clive -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: 20 February 2009 23:57 To: lightning-list Subject: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Hello everyone. I flew again this morning, surprise, surprise. After yesterdays flight to Prescott, I wasn't planning another trip but the weather was too good to resist. I now have over 90 hours on my little bird and she is purring like a kitten. I filed my Flight Plan with Prescott FSS leaving from Marana Regional Airport direct to Page Airport, (adjacent to Lake Powell). I've always wanted to see Lake Powell and this seemed like the perfect opportunity. As an added bonus, I would pass East of the Grand Canyon. Although there are rigid flight restrictions over the Canyon, I would be close enough to photograph it. The weather forecast predicted mostly clear skies with minor Cirrus clouds along the route. Wind was calm. I activated my Flight Plan after climbing to around 8000' and shortly thereafter, contacted Albuquerque Center for Flight Following. Life is good! The first 50 miles or so are not special. Not much to see except empty desert. I traded 8000' for 10,500' to clear the Superstition Mountains East of Phoenix. After reaching 10.5, the EFIS indicated a 26 mph wind and lucky for me, it was mostly a tail wind. My ground speed over the rugged Superstitions was 161 mph. Now that's cruisin! A few minutes later I was over Apache Lake with Roosevelt Lake in the distance. (see the two photos attached). During the Summer, boaters are buzzing the lakes helter skelter, but today, not a sole was in sight. North of the Payson, is the Mogollon Rim.... a sharply rising mountain range extending East to West for many miles. It is a very popular escape during the hot Summer months for desert rats in Phoenix and Tucson. For now, it is capped in snow. (see photo). About 60 miles or so North of Payson is Flagstaff. It is known for the "San Francisco Peaks" reaching 12,633' skyward and the "Sunset Crater", an extinct volcano. Most of the area is currently covered in snow and the outside air temp at 10,500' was 10 degrees. Burrrrrr! As luck would have it, I had to pee. Damn. I knew I would not make it to Page. I had to make a decision...Flagstaff or Sedona? Since field elevation at Flagstaff is 7014' and the temp was in the high teens, Sedona was my choice. I cancelled Flight Following and my Flight Plan and redirected to Sedona. I have attached two photos of Sedona...the first is just South of town, (showing the San Francisco Peaks in the distance), and the other is at the Sedona Airport. Though Lake Powell will have to wait till another day, all is not lost, for this has been a great day. I hope you enjoyed the trip as much as I did. Till the next adventure, happy flying! Gary Pennington http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:03 AM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Hello Earl I was looking forward to seeing the Canyon. I've only seen it once in my life, about 20 years ago. My, how time flys! Have a great day. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: EAFerguson@aol.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:09 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Great narratives for Buz to put in the newsletter. We just don't have the spectacular scenery like this around Atlanta. One of my most memorable flights was to fly the Grand Canyon at rim height from Lake Powell until we ran out of canyon. Obviously that was before the Canyon flight restrictions came about. Earl Ferguson ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:00 PM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight She is doing great. Flies straight and fast! I am currently making some changes to the interior and instrument panel. It will be nice! Jim! From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:33 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Hello Jim How is that gorgeous bird of yours? Thanks for your comments. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Langley Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 5:42 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Beautiful Gary. Thanks for sharing! Jim! From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:57 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight Hello everyone. I flew again this morning, surprise, surprise. After yesterdays flight to Prescott, I wasn't planning another trip but the weather was too good to resist. I now have over 90 hours on my little bird and she is purring like a kitten. I filed my Flight Plan with Prescott FSS leaving from Marana Regional Airport direct to Page Airport, (adjacent to Lake Powell). I've always wanted to see Lake Powell and this seemed like the perfect opportunity. As an added bonus, I would pass East of the Grand Canyon. Although there are rigid flight restrictions over the Canyon, I would be close enough to photograph it. The weather forecast predicted mostly clear skies with minor Cirrus clouds along the route. Wind was calm. I activated my Flight Plan after climbing to around 8000' and shortly thereafter, contacted Albuquerque Center for Flight Following. Life is good! The first 50 miles or so are not special. Not much to see except empty desert. I traded 8000' for 10,500' to clear the Superstition Mountains East of Phoenix. After reaching 10.5, the EFIS indicated a 26 mph wind and lucky for me, it was mostly a tail wind. My ground speed over the rugged Superstitions was 161 mph. Now that's cruisin! A few minutes later I was over Apache Lake with Roosevelt Lake in the distance. (see the two photos attached). During the Summer, boaters are buzzing the lakes helter skelter, but today, not a sole was in sight. North of the Payson, is the Mogollon Rim.... a sharply rising mountain range extending East to West for many miles. It is a very popular escape during the hot Summer months for desert rats in Phoenix and Tucson. For now, it is capped in snow. (see photo). About 60 miles or so North of Payson is Flagstaff. It is known for the "San Francisco Peaks" reaching 12,633' skyward and the "Sunset Crater", an extinct volcano. Most of the area is currently covered in snow and the outside air temp at 10,500' was 10 degrees. Burrrrrr! As luck would have it, I had to pee. Damn. I knew I would not make it to Page. I had to make a decision...Flagstaff or Sedona? Since field elevation at Flagstaff is 7014' and the temp was in the high teens, Sedona was my choice. I cancelled Flight Following and my Flight Plan and redirected to Sedona. I have attached two photos of Sedona...the first is just South of town, (showing the San Francisco Peaks in the distance), and the other is at the Sedona Airport. Though Lake Powell will have to wait till another day, all is not lost, for this has been a great day. I hope you enjoyed the trip as much as I did. Till the next adventure, happy flying! Gary Pennington title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:34:33 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Flagstaff and Sedona flight In a message dated 2/21/2009 9:10:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, EAFerguson@AOL.COM writes: Great narratives for Buz to put in the newsletter. Absolutely right on, Earl. And I will put it in the April newsletter under the News from Builders and Flyers section. In fact the April Newsletter will have two other great "travel log" Lead stories with some great photos. First Peter Mitchell's flight home across Australia (after building his Lightning) is a great read with some super photos of the Australian desert. Remember it is summer down under and Peter stops at some very colorful places with names that are pretty hard to pronounce for US colonist. And then for a winter in the US perspective, our high altitude expert, Dick Clevinger has a great write up and some spectacular snow covered Rocky Mountain photos to share with all of us. He even has an aerial photo of the Coors brewery. You know that beer that is brewed with Rocky Mountain Spring Water. Remember this will not be until the April issue. The reason that both of these will be in the April issue and not the March issue is that the March issue is about ready to go out and it's lead article will be a wrap up from the Sebring Light Sport Expo, and this issue is already 29 pages long. Also in the upcoming March issue (due out about the end of this coming week) you will be able to see a secret (at this time) upcoming Lightning advertisement that will make the RV guys envious. You have all seen the RV add that shows a photo of a newly completed RV with the pilot smiling after his first flight - they call it the RV grin. Well not to be outdone, wait until you see the Lightning answer to the RV grin. Now with those teases, I will get back to work on the March issue. Just waiting on an update and some photos on the SLSA Lightning LS-1 and then it will be off to Linda for her magic editing. Blue Skies, Buz **************Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. 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