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1. 06:08 AM - Re: Night flight (GARY PENNINGTON)
2. 06:53 AM - Re: Night flight (flylightning)
3. 10:49 AM - Re: Night flight (Charles Gallagher)
4. 03:27 PM - Another Lightning laugh (Mark Stauffer)
5. 04:35 PM - Re: Night flight (GARY PENNINGTON)
6. 05:28 PM - Re: Night flight (IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM)
7. 10:35 PM - Re: Night flight (Bill Strahan)
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| Subject: | Re: Night flight |
Good morning Brian
I installed the lights flush with the factory pockets. With the lights
on during the daytime, they appear bright and I use them in the pattern
and on final approach for visibility. In the dark, they do not point
very far down the runway so removing them and raising the beam might
help. However, they do not produce enough light to be useful.
Nick mentioned that someone used another light that really works. If
that person is reading this, please let me know.
Thank you.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Whittingham<mailto:dashvii@hotmail.com>
To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight
Gary,
Is it possible that it's your angle that the lights are mounted? I
remember seeing buzz during the day when he'd turn his on and it looked
like an airliner (albeit much smaller) coming in. Alot of the new LED
Bulbs seem to be much brighter and use less energy than their older
counterparts. Brian W.
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From: pennington@q.com
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Subject: Lightning-List: Night flight
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:51:54 -0700
Good morning fellow flyers
Last night I introduced my Lightning to Night Flight. All went well.
I departed Marana Airport at around 6:00 pm and the air was incredibly
smooth! Nary a bobble. I flew East over the valley to the Catalina
Mountains and then North and West around the Tortolita Mountains. The
sun was setting which cast shadows behind the rocky outcroppings. The
giant Saguaro Cactus cast long shadows like pointing fingers indicating
the end of another day. City lights began to twinkle like Christmas Tree
lights.
After the sun said goodbye, I headed back to the airport for full stop
landings, (six in all). I clicked my microphone switch seven times and
watched while the runway lights came alive. Pretty cool stuff. This was
a good time to become current again for carrying passengers at night.
The air was smooth and calm, the landings were good and life is great.
One word of caution. If you plan on using your landing lights to
illuminate the runway....don't. I installed lights in both wings. They
are worthless. Thank goodness for runway edge lights!
I hope your day is great.
Gary Pennington
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Gary,
The light housing does not change, they are a zenon bulb that fits into the
current housing and than has a little power pack behind it that simply wires
to your power and ground.
nick
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[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY
PENNINGTON
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Night flight
Good morning Brian
I installed the lights flush with the factory pockets. With the lights on
during the daytime, they appear bright and I use them in the pattern and on
final approach for visibility. In the dark, they do not point very far down
the runway so removing them and raising the beam might help. However, they
do not produce enough light to be useful.
Nick mentioned that someone used another light that really works. If that
person is reading this, please let me know.
Thank you.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Whittingham <mailto:dashvii@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight
Gary,
Is it possible that it's your angle that the lights are mounted? I
remember seeing buzz during the day when he'd turn his on and it looked like
an airliner (albeit much smaller) coming in. Alot of the new LED Bulbs seem
to be much brighter and use less energy than their older counterparts.
Brian W.
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From: pennington@q.com
Subject: Lightning-List: Night flight
Good morning fellow flyers
Last night I introduced my Lightning to Night Flight. All went well.
I departed Marana Airport at around 6:00 pm and the air was incredibly
smooth! Nary a bobble. I flew East over the valley to the Catalina Mountains
and then North and West around the Tortolita Mountains. The sun was setting
which cast shadows behind the rocky outcroppings. The giant Saguaro Cactus
cast long shadows like pointing fingers indicating the end of another day.
City lights began to twinkle like Christmas Tree lights.
After the sun said goodbye, I headed back to the airport for full stop
landings, (six in all). I clicked my microphone switch seven times and
watched while the runway lights came alive. Pretty cool stuff. This was a
good time to become current again for carrying passengers at night. The air
was smooth and calm, the landings were good and life is great.
One word of caution. If you plan on using your landing lights to illuminate
the runway....don't. I installed lights in both wings. They are worthless.
Thank goodness for runway edge lights!
I hope your day is great.
Gary Pennington
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| Subject: | Re: Night flight |
Gary, This on line retailer has generic kits for $109.00 two bulbs,ballast
and wiring.See Nick's message for ease of installation. http://www.shopxeno
n.com/index.htm This is just a example site, search for xenon kits and nume
rous sites will turn up. Rgs.,Charles Gallagher
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Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Night flight
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Good morning Brian
-
I installed the lights flush with the factory pockets. With the lights on
during the daytime, they appear bright and I use them in the pattern and on
final approach for visibility. In the dark, they do not point very far down
the
runway so removing them and raising the beam might help. However, they do n
ot
produce enough light to be-useful.
-
Nick mentioned that someone used another light that really works. If that
person is reading this, please let me know.
-
Thank you.
-
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Whittingham
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Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:41
PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night
flight
Gary,
-- Is it possible that it's your angle that
the lights are mounted?- I remember seeing buzz during the day when he'
d
turn his on and it looked like an airliner (albeit much smaller)-coming
in.- Alot of the new LED Bulbs seem to be much brighter and use less
energy than their older-counterparts.- Brian W.
-
From: pennington@q.com
Subject:
Lightning-List: Night flight
Good morning fellow flyers
-
Last night I introduced my Lightning to Night Flight. All went well.
-
I departed Marana Airport at around 6:00 pm and the air was incredibly
smooth! Nary a bobble. I flew East over the valley to the Catalina
Mountains-and then North and West around the Tortolita Mountains. The s
un
was setting which cast shadows behind the rocky outcroppings. The giant
Saguaro Cactus cast long shadows like pointing fingers indicating the end
of
another day. City lights began to twinkle like Christmas Tree lights.
-
After the sun said goodbye, I headed back to the airport for full stop
landings, (six in all). I clicked my microphone switch seven times and wa
tched
while the runway lights came alive. Pretty cool stuff. This was a good ti
me to
become current again for carrying passengers at night. The air was smooth
and
calm, the landings were good and life is great.
-
One word of caution.- If you plan on using your landing
lights-to illuminate the runway....don't. I installed lights in both
wings. They are worthless. Thank goodness for runway edge lights!
-
I hope your day is great.
-
Gary Pennington
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| Subject: | Another Lightning laugh |
Well I finally got to recharge my Lightning Laugh this evening. I really
haven't had much of a chance to fly since November (sad isn't it since I
work here!) so I asked Nick if I could do some "professional development"
and take the plane up. He agreed and off I went. What a blast! The whole
time I was thinking about Buz and the Lightning Laugh.
I feel much, much better now. Flying is good for the soul.
All the best!
Mark
Mark Stauffer
Production Manager
Arion Aircraft
2842 Hwy 231 North
Shelbyville, TN 37160
(931) 680-1781
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| Subject: | Re: Night flight |
Hey Nick
Thanks for the response. Do you know where I can find the bulbs and
powerpacks?
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: flylightning<mailto:info@flylightning.net>
To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:47 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight
Gary,
The light housing does not change, they are a zenon bulb that fits
into the current housing and than has a little power pack behind it that
simply wires to your power and ground.
nick
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Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:07 AM
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Night flight
Good morning Brian
I installed the lights flush with the factory pockets. With the lights
on during the daytime, they appear bright and I use them in the pattern
and on final approach for visibility. In the dark, they do not point
very far down the runway so removing them and raising the beam might
help. However, they do not produce enough light to be useful.
Nick mentioned that someone used another light that really works. If
that person is reading this, please let me know.
Thank you.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Whittingham<mailto:dashvii@hotmail.com>
To:
lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight
Gary,
Is it possible that it's your angle that the lights are mounted?
I remember seeing buzz during the day when he'd turn his on and it
looked like an airliner (albeit much smaller) coming in. Alot of the
new LED Bulbs seem to be much brighter and use less energy than their
older counterparts. Brian W.
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From: pennington@q.com
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Subject: Lightning-List: Night flight
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:51:54 -0700
Good morning fellow flyers
Last night I introduced my Lightning to Night Flight. All went well.
I departed Marana Airport at around 6:00 pm and the air was
incredibly smooth! Nary a bobble. I flew East over the valley to the
Catalina Mountains and then North and West around the Tortolita
Mountains. The sun was setting which cast shadows behind the rocky
outcroppings. The giant Saguaro Cactus cast long shadows like pointing
fingers indicating the end of another day. City lights began to twinkle
like Christmas Tree lights.
After the sun said goodbye, I headed back to the airport for full
stop landings, (six in all). I clicked my microphone switch seven times
and watched while the runway lights came alive. Pretty cool stuff. This
was a good time to become current again for carrying passengers at
night. The air was smooth and calm, the landings were good and life is
great.
One word of caution. If you plan on using your landing lights to
illuminate the runway....don't. I installed lights in both wings. They
are worthless. Thank goodness for runway edge lights!
I hope your day is great.
Gary Pennington
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| Subject: | Re: Night flight |
Hey Nick: For us electrically challenged guys do you know which bulb size w
e
have to chose?
Lynn
In a message dated 3/4/2009 7:36:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
pennington@q.com writes:
Hey Nick
Thanks for the response. Do you know where I can find the bulbs and
powerpacks?
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: _flylightning_ (mailto:info@flylightning.net)
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:47 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight
Gary,
The light housing does not change, they are a zenon bulb that fits into the
current housing and than has a little power pack behind it that simply wire
s
to your power and ground.
nick
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On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Night flight
Good morning Brian
I installed the lights flush with the factory pockets. With the lights on
during the daytime, they appear bright and I use them in the pattern and on
final approach for visibility. In the dark, they do not point very far down
the
runway so removing them and raising the beam might help. However, they do
not produce enough light to be useful.
Nick mentioned that someone used another light that really works. If that
person is reading this, please let me know.
Thank you.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: _Brian Whittingham_ (mailto:dashvii@hotmail.com)
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight
Gary,
Is it possible that it's your angle that the lights are mounted? I remembe
r
seeing buzz during the day when he'd turn his on and it looked like an
airliner (albeit much smaller) coming in. Alot of the new LED Bulbs seem t
o be
much brighter and use less energy than their older counterparts. Brian W.
____________________________________
From: pennington@q.com
Subject: Lightning-List: Night flight
Good morning fellow flyers
Last night I introduced my Lightning to Night Flight. All went well.
I departed Marana Airport at around 6:00 pm and the air was incredibly
smooth! Nary a bobble. I flew East over the valley to the Catalina Mountai
ns
and then North and West around the Tortolita Mountains. The sun was setting
which cast shadows behind the rocky outcroppings. The giant Saguaro Cactus
cast
long shadows like pointing fingers indicating the end of another day. City
lights began to twinkle like Christmas Tree lights.
After the sun said goodbye, I headed back to the airport for full stop
landings, (six in all). I clicked my microphone switch seven times and watc
hed
while the runway lights came alive. Pretty cool stuff. This was a good time
to
become current again for carrying passengers at night. The air was smooth a
nd
calm, the landings were good and life is great.
One word of caution. If you plan on using your landing lights to illuminat
e
the runway....don't. I installed lights in both wings. They are worthless.
Thank goodness for runway edge lights!
I hope your day is great.
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| Subject: | Re: Night flight |
I should do a better job reading the lists. I got H3 bulb replacements. Actually,
I got two 55 watt and two 35 watt ballasts.
And I got two 6000k bulbs and two 4300k bulbs.
No, I'm not THAT interested in finding the perfect light, it was a screwup of sorts
around Christmas. I mentioned that I wanted them, and managed to buy myself
a set AND my wife got me a set for Christmas.
Good thing, because the 55 watt I got is just too much for that reflector. I installed
the 35 watt. As to bulb temperature, I strongly recommend the 4300k
bulbs over the 6000. The 6000k bulbs are just too white...kinda bluish. The
4300k look like daylight compared to the ugly yellowish (it won't look yellow
until it's next to the HID light) original bulb.
So, I recommend a 35 watt 4300k H3 hid setup. I'm not sure if it will cause some
radio interference, or I'd recommend the bulbs and ballasts I have. If you
want to wait until I've flown with it, I'll be happy to provide details of the
flight. If not...
http://www.mediamidget.com/4300k-Single-Beam-Xenon-HID-Kit_p_120-39.html
That's where I got the 35 watt ballast and bulb. Just be sure to select H3 bulb
type. BUT...I can't make any promises about interference or lack thereof
At $72.99 for TWO ballasts and bulbs, you can either put in two lights, or you
can split it with another Lightning owner. Less than $37 each for about 3 times
the light.
If you need anything specific, feel free to email me. Bill@gdsx.com
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