---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/04/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:08 AM - Re: Night flight (GARY PENNINGTON) 2. 06:53 AM - Re: Night flight (flylightning) 3. 10:49 AM - Re: Night flight (Charles Gallagher) 4. 03:27 PM - Another Lightning laugh (Mark Stauffer) 5. 04:35 PM - Re: Night flight (GARY PENNINGTON) 6. 05:28 PM - Re: Night flight (IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM) 7. 10:35 PM - Re: Night flight (Bill Strahan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:12 AM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Night flight Good morning Brian I installed the lights flush with the factory pockets. With the lights on during the daytime, they appear bright and I use them in the pattern and on final approach for visibility. In the dark, they do not point very far down the runway so removing them and raising the beam might help. However, they do not produce enough light to be useful. Nick mentioned that someone used another light that really works. If that person is reading this, please let me know. Thank you. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Whittingham To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight Gary, Is it possible that it's your angle that the lights are mounted? I remember seeing buzz during the day when he'd turn his on and it looked like an airliner (albeit much smaller) coming in. Alot of the new LED Bulbs seem to be much brighter and use less energy than their older counterparts. Brian W. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: pennington@q.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Lightning-List: Night flight Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:51:54 -0700 Good morning fellow flyers Last night I introduced my Lightning to Night Flight. All went well. I departed Marana Airport at around 6:00 pm and the air was incredibly smooth! Nary a bobble. I flew East over the valley to the Catalina Mountains and then North and West around the Tortolita Mountains. The sun was setting which cast shadows behind the rocky outcroppings. The giant Saguaro Cactus cast long shadows like pointing fingers indicating the end of another day. City lights began to twinkle like Christmas Tree lights. After the sun said goodbye, I headed back to the airport for full stop landings, (six in all). I clicked my microphone switch seven times and watched while the runway lights came alive. Pretty cool stuff. This was a good time to become current again for carrying passengers at night. The air was smooth and calm, the landings were good and life is great. One word of caution. If you plan on using your landing lights to illuminate the runway....don't. I installed lights in both wings. They are worthless. Thank goodness for runway edge lights! I hope your day is great. Gary Pennington st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Find out more. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:31 AM PST US From: "flylightning" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight Gary, The light housing does not change, they are a zenon bulb that fits into the current housing and than has a little power pack behind it that simply wires to your power and ground. nick _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Night flight Good morning Brian I installed the lights flush with the factory pockets. With the lights on during the daytime, they appear bright and I use them in the pattern and on final approach for visibility. In the dark, they do not point very far down the runway so removing them and raising the beam might help. However, they do not produce enough light to be useful. Nick mentioned that someone used another light that really works. If that person is reading this, please let me know. Thank you. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Whittingham Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight Gary, Is it possible that it's your angle that the lights are mounted? I remember seeing buzz during the day when he'd turn his on and it looked like an airliner (albeit much smaller) coming in. Alot of the new LED Bulbs seem to be much brighter and use less energy than their older counterparts. Brian W. _____ From: pennington@q.com Subject: Lightning-List: Night flight Good morning fellow flyers Last night I introduced my Lightning to Night Flight. All went well. I departed Marana Airport at around 6:00 pm and the air was incredibly smooth! Nary a bobble. I flew East over the valley to the Catalina Mountains and then North and West around the Tortolita Mountains. The sun was setting which cast shadows behind the rocky outcroppings. The giant Saguaro Cactus cast long shadows like pointing fingers indicating the end of another day. City lights began to twinkle like Christmas Tree lights. After the sun said goodbye, I headed back to the airport for full stop landings, (six in all). I clicked my microphone switch seven times and watched while the runway lights came alive. Pretty cool stuff. This was a good time to become current again for carrying passengers at night. The air was smooth and calm, the landings were good and life is great. One word of caution. If you plan on using your landing lights to illuminate the runway....don't. I installed lights in both wings. They are worthless. Thank goodness for runway edge lights! I hope your day is great. Gary Pennington st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution _____ HotmailR is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. 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Rgs.,Charles Gallagher --- On Wed, 3/4/09, GARY PENNINGTON wrote: From: GARY PENNINGTON Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Night flight #yiv1491591381 .hmmessage P { PADDING-RIGHT:0px;PADDING-LEFT:0px;PADDING-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN:0px;PADDING-TO P:0px;} #yiv1491591381 { FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Verdana;} Good morning Brian - I installed the lights flush with the factory pockets. With the lights on during the daytime, they appear bright and I use them in the pattern and on final approach for visibility. In the dark, they do not point very far down the runway so removing them and raising the beam might help. However, they do n ot produce enough light to be-useful. - Nick mentioned that someone used another light that really works. If that person is reading this, please let me know. - Thank you. - Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Whittingham
To: lightning-list@ matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight Gary, -- Is it possible that it's your angle that the lights are mounted?- I remember seeing buzz during the day when he' d turn his on and it looked like an airliner (albeit much smaller)-coming in.- Alot of the new LED Bulbs seem to be much brighter and use less energy than their older-counterparts.- Brian W. - From: pennington@q.com Subject: Lightning-List: Night flight Good morning fellow flyers - Last night I introduced my Lightning to Night Flight. All went well. - I departed Marana Airport at around 6:00 pm and the air was incredibly smooth! Nary a bobble. I flew East over the valley to the Catalina Mountains-and then North and West around the Tortolita Mountains. The s un was setting which cast shadows behind the rocky outcroppings. The giant Saguaro Cactus cast long shadows like pointing fingers indicating the end of another day. City lights began to twinkle like Christmas Tree lights. - After the sun said goodbye, I headed back to the airport for full stop landings, (six in all). I clicked my microphone switch seven times and wa tched while the runway lights came alive. Pretty cool stuff. This was a good ti me to become current again for carrying passengers at night. The air was smooth and calm, the landings were good and life is great. - One word of caution.- If you plan on using your landing lights-to illuminate the runway....don't. I installed lights in both wings. They are worthless. Thank goodness for runway edge lights! - I hope your day is great. - Gary Pennington - - - - st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List ronics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Find o ut more. title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://ww w.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigato r?Lightning-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:51 PM PST US From: "Mark Stauffer" Subject: Lightning-List: Another Lightning laugh Well I finally got to recharge my Lightning Laugh this evening. I really haven't had much of a chance to fly since November (sad isn't it since I work here!) so I asked Nick if I could do some "professional development" and take the plane up. He agreed and off I went. What a blast! The whole time I was thinking about Buz and the Lightning Laugh. I feel much, much better now. Flying is good for the soul. All the best! Mark Mark Stauffer Production Manager Arion Aircraft 2842 Hwy 231 North Shelbyville, TN 37160 (931) 680-1781 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:15 PM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Night flight Hey Nick Thanks for the response. Do you know where I can find the bulbs and powerpacks? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: flylightning To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:47 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight Gary, The light housing does not change, they are a zenon bulb that fits into the current housing and than has a little power pack behind it that simply wires to your power and ground. nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:07 AM To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Night flight Good morning Brian I installed the lights flush with the factory pockets. With the lights on during the daytime, they appear bright and I use them in the pattern and on final approach for visibility. In the dark, they do not point very far down the runway so removing them and raising the beam might help. However, they do not produce enough light to be useful. Nick mentioned that someone used another light that really works. If that person is reading this, please let me know. Thank you. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Whittingham To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight Gary, Is it possible that it's your angle that the lights are mounted? I remember seeing buzz during the day when he'd turn his on and it looked like an airliner (albeit much smaller) coming in. Alot of the new LED Bulbs seem to be much brighter and use less energy than their older counterparts. Brian W. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: pennington@q.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Lightning-List: Night flight Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:51:54 -0700 Good morning fellow flyers Last night I introduced my Lightning to Night Flight. All went well. I departed Marana Airport at around 6:00 pm and the air was incredibly smooth! Nary a bobble. I flew East over the valley to the Catalina Mountains and then North and West around the Tortolita Mountains. The sun was setting which cast shadows behind the rocky outcroppings. The giant Saguaro Cactus cast long shadows like pointing fingers indicating the end of another day. City lights began to twinkle like Christmas Tree lights. After the sun said goodbye, I headed back to the airport for full stop landings, (six in all). I clicked my microphone switch seven times and watched while the runway lights came alive. Pretty cool stuff. This was a good time to become current again for carrying passengers at night. The air was smooth and calm, the landings were good and life is great. One word of caution. If you plan on using your landing lights to illuminate the runway....don't. I installed lights in both wings. They are worthless. Thank goodness for runway edge lights! 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Find out more. title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">h ttp://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:51 PM PST US From: IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Night flight Hey Nick: For us electrically challenged guys do you know which bulb size w e have to chose? Lynn In a message dated 3/4/2009 7:36:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pennington@q.com writes: Hey Nick Thanks for the response. Do you know where I can find the bulbs and powerpacks? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: _flylightning_ (mailto:info@flylightning.net) Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 7:47 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight Gary, The light housing does not change, they are a zenon bulb that fits into the current housing and than has a little power pack behind it that simply wire s to your power and ground. nick ____________________________________ From: _owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com_ (mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com) [mailto:owner-lightning -list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Night flight Good morning Brian I installed the lights flush with the factory pockets. With the lights on during the daytime, they appear bright and I use them in the pattern and on final approach for visibility. In the dark, they do not point very far down the runway so removing them and raising the beam might help. However, they do not produce enough light to be useful. Nick mentioned that someone used another light that really works. If that person is reading this, please let me know. Thank you. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: _Brian Whittingham_ (mailto:dashvii@hotmail.com) Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:41 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Night flight Gary, Is it possible that it's your angle that the lights are mounted? I remembe r seeing buzz during the day when he'd turn his on and it looked like an airliner (albeit much smaller) coming in. Alot of the new LED Bulbs seem t o be much brighter and use less energy than their older counterparts. Brian W. ____________________________________ From: pennington@q.com Subject: Lightning-List: Night flight Good morning fellow flyers Last night I introduced my Lightning to Night Flight. All went well. I departed Marana Airport at around 6:00 pm and the air was incredibly smooth! Nary a bobble. I flew East over the valley to the Catalina Mountai ns and then North and West around the Tortolita Mountains. The sun was setting which cast shadows behind the rocky outcroppings. The giant Saguaro Cactus cast long shadows like pointing fingers indicating the end of another day. City lights began to twinkle like Christmas Tree lights. After the sun said goodbye, I headed back to the airport for full stop landings, (six in all). I clicked my microphone switch seven times and watc hed while the runway lights came alive. Pretty cool stuff. This was a good time to become current again for carrying passengers at night. The air was smooth a nd calm, the landings were good and life is great. One word of caution. If you plan on using your landing lights to illuminat e the runway....don't. I installed lights in both wings. They are worthless. Thank goodness for runway edge lights! I hope your day is great. 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The 4300k look like daylight compared to the ugly yellowish (it won't look yellow until it's next to the HID light) original bulb. So, I recommend a 35 watt 4300k H3 hid setup. I'm not sure if it will cause some radio interference, or I'd recommend the bulbs and ballasts I have. If you want to wait until I've flown with it, I'll be happy to provide details of the flight. If not... http://www.mediamidget.com/4300k-Single-Beam-Xenon-HID-Kit_p_120-39.html That's where I got the 35 watt ballast and bulb. Just be sure to select H3 bulb type. BUT...I can't make any promises about interference or lack thereof At $72.99 for TWO ballasts and bulbs, you can either put in two lights, or you can split it with another Lightning owner. Less than $37 each for about 3 times the light. If you need anything specific, feel free to email me. 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