Lightning-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/31/09


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:20 AM - Re: Radio not working, Need opinions as to a fix please (Jim Langley)
     2. 04:39 AM - Re: Radio not working, Need opinions as to a fix please (Kayberg@aol.com)
     3. 08:06 AM - Lightning Logo Patch (EAFerguson@AOL.COM)
     4. 11:19 AM - Re: Flying Time (IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM)
     5. 01:04 PM - Radio Noise traces (James, Clive R)
     6. 02:02 PM - Re: Lightning Logo Patch (Brian Whittingham)
     7. 02:18 PM - Lightnings in Houston? (Brian Whittingham)
     8. 02:42 PM - Re: Radio Interference (James, Clive R)
     9. 03:08 PM - Re: Radio Noise traces (James, Clive R)
    10. 03:34 PM - Re: Lightning Logo Patch (EAFerguson@AOL.COM)
    11. 04:20 PM - Re: Lightning Logo Patch (Brian Whittingham)
    12. 05:11 PM - Re: Radio Noise traces (Paul Sistern - Parts for Aircraft)
    13. 08:04 PM - Re: April Newsletter (Jim Langley)
    14. 09:08 PM - new soon to be option for the Lightning (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:20:45 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: Radio not working, Need opinions as to a fix please
    No disrespect Charles, but a few questions... 1. How can anyone tell you if there is a problem with your radio from that picture? 2. Since your plane is parked at Hagerstown? Why not ask their avionics guy to look at it? Part of building an experimental is making sure all the parts of your airplane are working properly before you leave the ground. A simple radio check before it leaves the ground uncovers your potential problem. Why hasn't your test pilot (an ex-fighter pilot), suggested a path forward for you? Kind regards Jim! -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Dewey Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:29 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Radio not working, Need opinions as to a fix please Can you all look at he enclosed photograph and see if you can help me figure out how to get it working. My test pilot (an ex-fighter pilot) has indicated that it is not working at all. He says the radio just blinks and flashes like it is working (turned on) and pushing all the buttons doesn't seem to do anything to get it working. He has had to use a hand-held radio and refuses to fly again until the radio is fixed. As far as I know, the radio in my plane has never worked. I have never flown the plane myself, but I do not think it has ever been functional. Is this a simple fix? Charles Dewey


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    Time: 04:39:22 AM PST US
    From: Kayberg@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Radio not working, Need opinions as to a fix please
    In a message dated 3/30/2009 11:35:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cdewey6969@yahoo.com writes: Can you all look at he enclosed photograph and see if you can help me figure out how to get it working. My test pilot (an ex-fighter pilot) has indicated that it is not working at all. He says the radio just blinks and flashes like it is working (turned on) and pushing all the buttons doesn't seem to do anything to get it working. He has had to use a hand-held radio and refuses to fly again until the radio is fixed. As far as I know, the radio in my plane has never worked. I have never flown the plane myself, but I do not think it has ever been functional. Is this a simple fix? Charles Dewey There have been problems with X-COM radios due to manufacturing issues. These are being resolved, according to the website. They are now being manufactured by NARCO, a well-known PA based company. Any radio shop should be able to remove it and send to NARCO for repair. If memory serves, your installation was done with a factory supplied harness, so the fault has to be with the unit itself. You might also email the factory and mention the symptoms. Doug Koenigsberg


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    Time: 08:06:41 AM PST US
    From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM
    Subject: Lightning Logo Patch
    At a recent SYI visit we had a discussion of the possible interest for a Lightning Logo patch suitable for sewing on a jacket or other clothing item. In a moment of weakness with Buz twisting my arm, I volunteered to work on this suggestion. Nick is reviewing available artwork, but the design is wide open. I'm definitely not artistic, so I need your help. Send suggestions to me at the e-mail address above. And tell me if you are interested in purchasing one. No price info yet, but the patches being done for one of my old squadrons came in at about $8 per. I'll be at SNF on Friday looking for comments. Earl Ferguson N17EF Atlanta **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)


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    Time: 11:19:06 AM PST US
    From: IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Flying Time
    Hey Buz: N13LN has 89.1 Hrs. I expect to have between 95 and 100 hrs by the time sun and fun arrives. Lynn In a message dated 3/29/2009 9:09:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, N1BZRich@AOL.COM writes: All Lightning / Esqual flyers, I am collecting some "marketing data" for the new LS-1 Lightning that might be helpful to show potential SLSA and ELSA customers that the Lightning is not a new development, but a light sport airplane that was based on the very successful EAB Lightning and the Esqual before that. So all you Lightning and Esqual owners, past and current, please help the effort by sending me how much flying time is now on your aircraft. Actually, if you anticipate flying a lot between now and Sun N Fun, add that estimated time to the total you send me. And just to keep things from getting confusing, please also send your N Number (or country registration) along with the type (Lightning or Esqual) and total hours of flying time. I will provide all of you the results of this poll when (and if) I get good feedback. And you get to be part of the overall marketing plan for the new LS-1 Lightning. Thanks in advance. Buz ____________________________________ Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? _Make dinner for $10 or less_ (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) . (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)


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    Time: 01:04:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Radio Noise traces
    From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jabiruengines/files/Radio%20noise/ Clive R James Harding OIM, BP Exploration Operating Company Limited, 1 Wellheads Avenue, Dyce, Aberdeen AB21 7PB Tel: +44 (0)1224 772982 Fax: +44 (0)1224 834896 e-mail: clive.james@bp.com INK saving ECO SANS FONT used, www.ecofont.eu BP Exploration Operating Company Limited, a company registered in England and Wales with the company number 305943 and VAT number GB365678995 and whose registered office is Chertsey Road, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex TW16 7BP


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    Time: 02:02:42 PM PST US
    From: Brian Whittingham <dashvii@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Lightning Logo Patch
    Earl=2C Just a thought. Hank Williamson=2C the airport manager at SYI is very a rtistic. He also judges a statewide childrens art competition and uses his base of operations to sign kids up. Recently the Soyuz TMA-14 crew patch http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Soyuz-TMA-14-Mission-Pat ch.png was determined by having children design a patch. The astronaut=2C cosmonaut=2C touristnaut then judged and picked the one that they liked th e best. You could turn this into a competition that could be advertised on the Arion=2C SYI=2C and Jim's website. You could have a downloadable form with guidelines and where to mail it. You could then take a stack of 50 o r so up to the FBO and have Hank to advertise it. You could then have Ario n pick which they like the best. Added bonus of this=2C not that most owners probably care=2C but we need to get more of us younger guys interested in this aircraft. Right now I feel like it's kind of like if only guys 60 (no offense) and older knew about a Corvette. Now I want to have a Vette when I'm 60 and older=2C but I wante d one when I was 20 too! People that have young kids are probably a genera tion younger than the current average owner age. Once the news gets out to that generation they're gong to want to have a fast=2C sleek=2C and fun ai rplane too! Just a thought. How are you doing after your replacement Earl? Brian W. From: EAFerguson@aol.com Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Logo Patch At a recent SYI visit we had a discussion of the possible interest for a Li ghtning Logo patch suitable for sewing on a jacket or other clothing item. In a moment of weakness with Buz twisting my arm=2C I volunteered to work o n this suggestion. Nick is reviewing available artwork=2C but the design is wide open. I'm def initely not artistic=2C so I need your help. Send suggestions to me at the e-mail address above. And tell me if you are interested in purchasing one. No price info yet=2C but the patches being do ne for one of my old squadrons came in at about $8 per. I'll be at SNF on Friday looking for comments. Earl Ferguson N17EF Atlanta Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to Windows Live and your favorite MSN content with Internet Ex plorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037 MSN55C0701A


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    Time: 02:18:06 PM PST US
    From: Brian Whittingham <dashvii@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Lightnings in Houston?
    Are there any Lightning owners in Houston=2C or perhaps that flew over Hous ton today? During a fire alarm at work (somebody burned a burrito in the m icrowave) today I saw an airplane fly over at about 300 feet heading toward s Ellington Field. It was overall white=2C with a blue stripe=2C fixed gea r=2C no leg fairings=2C no wheel pants=2C no new wingtips=2C but had the li ttle rear window. It was probably something like a Pulsar=2C but I sure di d take a hard look at it. Brian W. _________________________________________________________________ Quick access to Windows Live and your favorite MSN content with Internet Ex plorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037 MSN55C0701A


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    Time: 02:42:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Radio Interference
    From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
    Some comments from a guy on the Yahoo engines list who's been helping folk out. He's done extensive testing around the RFI that the Jabiru engine emits. If I find the rest I'll post the link on here. I did extra screening on my Esqual system and the radio still isn't as good as my Jabiru. Both have tail dipoles which should be a far better antenna than a quarter wave fuselage one. However, I have been told of problems with structure and even paint possibly masking the antenna in a tail. Dave, what's a vhf-51? Regards, Clive ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Yes the bosch leads you found look to be the same as I used. They have a number marking on them something like 365 however some leads had a different number. look at the picture in the files, you can read the markings there. The Bosch premade leads cost $6 each here New Jabiru engines, on the website, appear to have similar leads fitted, not the old red carbon ones. Screening the coil leads can be by braid or spiral winding copper tape over them. But I dont like the idea as its easy to get breakdown especially the 3300 where moisture could track via the joint. the same level of improvement is obtained with 2 ferrite beads to each lead. 3 beads is more than needed, if you want to make sure of it. The best beads are hard to find now, the ones I got were ideal. Ralph --- On Tue, 31/3/09, James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com> wrote: From: James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com> Subject: RE: More Radio Noise Received: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 12:33 AM Thanks very much for the detailed feedback, I must have missed the earlier explanation you made I'll have a dig back in Yahoo. I've just replaced my plug leads on the 2200 plane as it's done 1060 hrs and I was getting some breakdown. Not expensive as I made them up, but the price of auto plug leads isn't great so I'll look into changing them on my 3300 as that is the one with the worst radio. When you say Bosch ferrite core helical resistance wire are these standard leads or something different? I've had a surf and come up with this page http://www.bosch.com.au/content/language1/html/2253.htm Doesn't figure on the UK website though. Screening the coil leads would be by fitting a grounded braid? Sounds like you've done some great work which it would be really good if Jabiru picked up on..... Regards, Clive ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- From: Ralph S [mailto:sanson.r@xtra.co.nz] Sent: 29 March 2009 22:51 Subject: Re: More Radio Noise Hi Clive, Yes your idea of grounding the shields at the cockpit end does make sense and I have tried it that way and with both ends grounded. But the reason I say to only do it at the engine is mainly to avoid any circulating currents getting to the electronics in the coils when for instance you are cranking the engine with mags off or flying with one disabled (because a rotor slipped and causes misfiring on that mag, whatever. You then have a situation where the electronics in the coil is subject to the voltage difference between the cabin ground and the engine ground, with 200 amps starting current that may be 2 volts. Its just not good practice. I flew my C150 for a couple of years before discovering it had no earth straps fitted across the rubber engine mounts (there should be 2) meaning the 400 amps starter current return to the battery was soley via the throttle, mixture and various scat hoses wires that connect to the fuselage! No wonder it was a slow starter. The jabiru charging regulator does put out some spike noise which can make a pitter patter on the audio systems, but in my case its not a problem and I dont have a large capacitor like the Rotax recommend. I do have a large battery and its direct connected to the regulator both sense and charge wires no switch contacts to cause trouble. For eliminating the ignition noise, for my engine the most dominant noise by a large amount, The best step was to replace the carbon film leads (cars stopped using these after the 70's) with some Bosch ferrite core helical resistance wire ones off the rack at our local car parts store. I have no opportunity to test other brands, but assume Bosch supply this lead to many european cars so its a matter of buying 8 leads long enough to cut off the straight plug connector and crimp the angled connectos on. 2nd step was to bead or shield the coil lead. This is a copper wire lead. Some have said it can be replaced at the coil but if that was easy Jabiru would already do it instead of soldering on an extension for the 3300. terminating these ferrite core leads is also harder to do. putting the r plugs in last change cut my noise downn a little further, but my static tests suggest the HT leads radiate the most noise. Avoid adding more than the leads + the R plugs as its already over the normal system resistance by then. So other than trying the wiper to ground the flywheel, like someone in Europe did, I dont think there is much more to do. I have seen reports of shielding the cowl with mesh or conductive paint magnecore HT leads ferrite beads on HT leads filters on radio etc. all not having any useful effect. I suspect that some of the problem is that any one of those things alone might not be notcable to the user, without the benefit or testing in a repeatable environment. I used test equipment to find the best HT leads and r sparkplug combination, and various radio frequencies with known reference signals in flight, comparing the unmodified mag noise with the modified side. The L mag is always slightly noisier than R, so that has to be taken to account. If you study the graphs of my files, and flick between them or print them and overlay the traces, you can see the improvement made by each type of lead, and the fact that the improvements are different depending on the frequency being looked at. I have plots over much wider frequencies, and the inductive leads are best overall, even better than standard full shield aircraft leads (which are helical wire core, by the way) Its my belief that the coils will never be able to be totally suppressed, and to do better would mean shielding the distributors as well. but its more important that the engine is reliable. If the antenna is already in the tail theres no where else to go. Good luck. Ralph --- On Sun, 29/3/09, James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp...com> wrote: From: James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com> Subject: More Radio Noise Received: Sunday, 29 March, 2009, 10:25 PM Hi Ralph, I was reading your post on radio noise with interest. You suggest grounding the P lead shield at the engine end. I did it the other way, grounded on the panel earth as I felt a cleaner shield would be better and bringing the engine ground 'signal' into the plane would be a backward step. I did no end of shielding and have big cables on my ground circuits and still have a ropey radio. What's your thinking about grounding the P lead shields at the engine end? I'm open to any ideas to improve things and I suppose I could be taking the interference that is in the P lead into the panel..... BTW, the Antenna is a dipole in the tail which works very well in my other aircraft (Jabiru). Regards, Clive -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: 31 March 2009 00:54 Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Gear Leg shimmy Wayne I have an Esqual. a with jab 3300. My fix or relief came when I mounted my antenna, vhf-51, inside the vertical stabilizer and used rg 400 cable. When it is stuck inside the fuselage only about 1/2 of it is mounted vertical, this is ok if you are doing steady aileron rolls, just kidding, so I thought why not in the tail where you get a total vertical antenna and it is as far away from the engine as possible.I can receive and send clear 100 plus miles Unicom frequency. I have a Garmin SL 40. Hope this helps Dave McC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Lenox" <waynelenox@juno.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:42 PM Subject: Spam: Lightning-List: Lightning Gear Leg shimmy > --> <waynelenox@juno.com> > > I fixed my gear leg shimmy at 20 MPH. It was time for new tires and > remembered a post on this forum about changing to a heavier tire. I > ordered two 500X5 6PLY two groove monster retreads for the mains. No > problem with balance and now no problem with shimmy. I did need to > Make some slight changes to the wheel pants. I be a happy camper. > Now if I could only fix the noise in the radio. > > Wayne > N123WL > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234128#234128 > > >


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    Time: 03:08:06 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: Radio Noise traces
    From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jabiruengines/message/25762 >From what I can see from the work Ralph has done the fixes are associated with: Plug lead material, see the picture in the 'files' on the bottom link, the Bosch cable is shown. Link to Bosch leads on previous posts (aussie website). Ferrite beads on the Coil HT, never heard of this or thought of it, seems two leads help a third makes no difference. Seems a great cheap and easy improvement. Shielding the P, leads, we all probably know this but Ralph suggests shielding is grounded at the engine end. I did the opposite thinking I might import some RF into the panel area, he also suggests using the shield as the ground for the mag switch, can't see what difference that would make so won't change mine, it does remove a wire so would do it this way in the future. 8mm Ferrite beads are the order of the day! Then new plug leads! Regards, Clive > _____________________________________________ > From: James, Clive R > Sent: 31 March 2009 07:14 > To: 'lightning-list@matronics.com' > Subject: Radio Noise traces > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jabiruengines/files/Radio%20noise/ > > Clive R James > Harding OIM, > BP Exploration Operating Company Limited, > 1 Wellheads Avenue, Dyce, Aberdeen AB21 7PB > Tel: +44 (0)1224 772982 > Fax: +44 (0)1224 834896 > e-mail: clive.james@bp.com > INK saving ECO SANS FONT used, www.ecofont.eu > BP Exploration Operating Company Limited, a company registered in > England and Wales with the company number 305943 and VAT number > GB365678995 and whose registered office is Chertsey Road, Sunbury on > Thames, Middlesex TW16 7BP > >


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    Time: 03:34:39 PM PST US
    From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Lightning Logo Patch
    In a message dated 3/31/2009 5:03:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dashvii@hotmail.com writes: Earl, Just a thought. Hank Williamson, the airport manager at SYI is very artistic. He also judges a statewide childrens art competition and uses his base of operations to sign kids up. Recently the Soyuz TMA-14 crew patch _http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Soyuz-TMA-14-Mission-Patch.png_ (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Soyuz-TMA-14-Mission-Patch.png) was determined by having children design a patch. The astronaut, cosmonaut, touristnaut then judged and picked the one that they liked the best. You could turn this into a competition that could be advertised on the Arion, SYI, and Jim's website. You could have a downloadable form with guidelines and where to mail it. You could then take a stack of 50 or so up to the FBO and have Hank to advertise it. You could then have Arion pick which they like the best. Added bonus of this, not that most owners probably care, but we need to get more of us younger guys interested in this aircraft. Right now I feel like it's kind of like if only guys 60 (no offense) and older knew about a Corvette. Now I want to have a Vette when I'm 60 and older, but I wanted one when I was 20 too! People that have young kids are probably a generation younger than the current average owner age. Once the news gets out to that generation they're gong to want to have a fast, sleek, and fun airplane too! Just a thought. How are you doing after your replacement Earl? Brian W. Brian, Thanks for the suggestions. I didn't know about Hank's artistic abilities. My hip is doing great. Earl **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)


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    Time: 04:20:21 PM PST US
    From: Brian Whittingham <dashvii@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Lightning Logo Patch
    Earl=2C Yes=2C Hank is quiet the artist. He has even had people hire him to do paintings for them. I think that he keeps some photos in his office of som e of his paintings and drawings. Next time you're out that way you should c heck it out. Some are a little more risque. I think he also did a paintin g that was in the women's restroom there. Every year he gets a group of sc hool children together to show them his planes and answer questions about f lying. The have some people talk=2C show them some things=2C and then he h ad all of them a Styrofoam airplane and they got to paint it however they w anted. He also designed the "Right Attitude" SYI Logo. Let me know what y ou guys come up with=2C I'll want a patch whenever you get some. Good to h ear that you're back on your feet again. Take care. Thanks=2C Brian W. From: EAFerguson@aol.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Logo Patch In a message dated 3/31/2009 5:03:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time=2C dashvii@hotmail.com writes: Earl=2C Just a thought. Hank Williamson=2C the airport manager at SYI is very artistic. He also judges a statewide childrens art competition and uses his base of operations to sign kids up. Recently the Soyuz TMA-14 crew patch http://upload.wikimedia.org/wik ipedia/commons/6/68/Soyuz-TMA-14-Mission-Patch.png was determined by having children design a patch. The astronaut=2C cosmonaut=2C touristnaut then judged and picked the one that they liked t he best. You could turn this into a competition that could be advertised on the Arion=2C SYI=2C and Jim's website. You could have a downloadable form with guidelines and where to mail it. You could then take a stack of 50 or so up to the FBO and have Hank to advertise it. You could then have Arion pick which they like the best. Added bonus of this=2C not that most owners probably care=2C but we need to get more of us young er guys interested in this aircraft. Right now I feel like it's kind of like if only guys 60 (no offense) and older knew about a Corvette. Now I want to have a Vette when I'm 60 and older=2C but I wanted one when I was 20 too! People that have young kids are probably a generation younger than the current average owner age. Once the news gets out to that generation they're gong to want to have a fast=2C sleek=2C and fu n airplane too! Just a thought. How are you doing after your replacement Earl? Brian W. Brian=2C Thanks for the suggestions. I didn't know about Hank's artistic abilities. My hip is doing great. Earl Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. _________________________________________________________________ Internet Explorer 8 ' Get your Hotmail Accelerated. Download free!


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    Time: 05:11:43 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Sistern - Parts for Aircraft" <paul@partsforaircraft.co.uk>
    Subject: RE: Radio Noise traces
    The Bosch leads that Ralph constantly refers to on the Jab engine website are not available in the Northern hemisphere they are peculiar to Bosch Oz. James Hallam, who has a Twister with Jab 2200, has had a hell of a time with interference and I pointed him towards a UK company that manufactures plug leads for racing engines that employ the same technology used in the Bosch Oz leads. It made only a marginal difference, and not worth the =A3200 or so quid he paid. I have tried ferrites on the ignition coil leads and that was a total waste of time. I don=92t know anyone who claims to have found a noise reduction from a grounded shield on the P lead. But removing RFI is a black art and what works in one installation can be hard to replicate in another. I have come to the conclusion that there is no magic bullet. The best thing to do is what Jabiru do themselves and that is mount the aerial as far away from the engine as possible. Of course, if you can get a job at Jabiru or working for Jabiru, the RF disappears. Roger Lewis was deaf to it, I wonder if he can hear it now? Cheers, Paul From: James, Clive R [mailto:clive.james@uk.bp.com] Sent: 31 March 2009 07:38 Cc: Paul Sistern - Parts for Aircraft; Bob Panther Subject: RE: Radio Noise traces <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jabiruengines/message/25762> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jabiruengines/message/25762 >From what I can see from the work Ralph has done the fixes are associated with: Plug lead material, see the picture in the 'files' on the bottom link, the Bosch cable is shown. Link to Bosch leads on previous posts (aussie website). Ferrite beads on the Coil HT, never heard of this or thought of it, seems two leads help a third makes no difference. Seems a great cheap and easy improvement. Shielding the P, leads, we all probably know this but Ralph suggests shielding is grounded at the engine end. I did the opposite thinking I might import some RF into the panel area, he also suggests using the shield as the ground for the mag switch, can't see what difference that would make so won't change mine, it does remove a wire so would do it this way in the future. 8mm Ferrite beads are the order of the day! Then new plug leads! Regards, Clive _____________________________________________ From: James, Clive R Sent: 31 March 2009 07:14 Subject: Radio Noise traces <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jabiruengines/files/Radio%20noise/> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jabiruengines/files/Radio%20noise/ Clive R James Harding OIM, BP Exploration Operating Company Limited, 1 Wellheads Avenue, Dyce, Aberdeen AB21 7PB Tel: +44 (0)1224 772982 Fax: +44 (0)1224 834896 e-mail: clive.james@bp.com INK saving ECO SANS FONT used, <file:///\\www.ecofont.eu> www.ecofont.eu BP Exploration Operating Company Limited, a company registered in England and Wales with the company number 305943 and VAT number GB365678995 and whose registered office is Chertsey Road, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex TW16 7BP Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 03/30/09 17:56:00


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    Time: 08:04:20 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Langley" <pequeajim@gmail.com>
    Subject: RE: April Newsletter
    Buz & Linda; thanks again for your efforts. The newsletter is posted to the site http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html Jim! N730AL _____ Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make <http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001> dinner for $10 or less.


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    Time: 09:08:46 PM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
    Subject: new soon to be option for the Lightning
    All Lightning enthusiasts, As you might expect, Nick and the Arion team get lots of suggestions for the Lightning. These suggestions range from such things as changes to the b asic design, things to add as options, and even things that would add another flight capability for the airplane=99s operation. Being a very proac tive group, they evaluate all of the suggestions for the various pros and cons, and eve n do preliminary testing on some of the suggestions to determine if any shoul d be incorporated. Occasionally, someone=99s suggestion is determined to have great merit and that suggestion is then incorporated into the basis Lightni ng design, or into Arion=99s overall business plan. A little over a yea r ago, someone asked if it would be possible to put floats on the Lightning. Obv iously that is a very intriguing idea, but one that would require a great amount o f time. First you must design the floats and subsystems, then produce a working prototype set of floats, and finally to flight test them: Too much time for the ever busy Lightning Skunk Works team to take on. But sometimes potentially good suggestions have a way of getting done even if the =9Cfactory=9D guys are too busy to get directly involved . So, not to let a good idea go to waste, the Virginia detachment of the Lightning Skunk Wor ks team has been hard as work in a hangar at Wakefield airport (KAKQ), with th e goal of producing a prototype set of floats for the Lightning. Primary credit for the design and fabrication work of the first set of floats goes to Joe Mathias. Joe is an absolute master craftsman in all types of aircraft construction and has built and restored several Oshkosh champion aircraft i n the past. Of course, Joe was ably assisted in this monumental task by his bri de of many years, Linda Mathias who built Lightning kit #20, N59JL. The prototype set of floats for the Lightning are constructed of marine and air craft quality plywood, but once the design has been flight tested, they will be u sed to produce a mold so that follow on floats can be quickly duplicated out of fiberglass. The photos below (photos by Russell Hornsby) show the floats mounted on the test aircraft, N31BZ, Buz=99s highly modified Esqual L S (Lightning Stuff). Heck, I might change the LS to LSS to mean Lightning Stuff Seaplane . This photo was made on the initial roll out day, but since that time, water rudders have been added to the floats and are tied directly into the aircra ft=99 s rudder cables. We have also built a dolly that will allow the airplane to takeoff from a =9Cland base=9D. The dolly also makes it easy to move the airplane around the hangar. Initial water landing and taxi testing is plan ned for a secluded cove in the nearby James River. We are planning to make th e initial water landing later this afternoon, April 1. Blue Skies, Buz **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 o r less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)




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