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1. 06:12 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (Wayne Lenox)
2. 07:10 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
3. 07:10 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (GARY PENNINGTON)
4. 07:44 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (Wayne Lenox)
5. 08:16 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (GARY PENNINGTON)
6. 09:45 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (flylightning)
7. 04:06 PM - Re: Where is everyone? (GARY PENNINGTON)
8. 05:40 PM - Re: I was wondering if it was broken.....some news and a tip! (n5pb@AOL.COM)
9. 06:02 PM - Re: Where is everyone? (Kayberg@AOL.COM)
10. 08:09 PM - Re: Where is everyone? (Steven Sundquist)
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Gary
Sorry to here you are having trouble with your tanks. Were you using Mo
gas with alcohol? What did Nick say about your tanks? They have a seal
ant that they can poor into the tank and reseal, if the leak is small.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
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From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
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->Hello Wayne I haven't been on the site lately. I've been dealing with
gas tank problems. The sealant used in the gas tanks has mostly delamina
ted. Needless to say, I haven't been flying either. I'm not happy. Good
to hear from someone. Gary PenningtonTucson, Arizona----- Original Messa
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esday, May 12, 2009 7:44 PMSubject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyon
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Sun's out and shining in Perth, Western Australia. Checked out my Kitlo
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Wayne Patterson
LOUGHTON PATTERSON GROUP
PO Box 398 South Perth 6951
08 94742126
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-
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Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 10:34 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
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In a message dated 5/13/2009 10:54:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pequeajim@gmail.com writes:
I have a couple of things that I can send you for the newsletter.
- Using Rustoleum to create a nice looking panel
- Electric cabin heat control
I will send you something in the next week or so.
Great Jim, thanks. Some photos will be nice also.
Blue Skies,
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Good morning Wayne
Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several times
that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the tanks.
Being able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision for me
to build and fly a Lightning.
Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has
delaminated. I noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when
refueling. I was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler
neck, but cannot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks
with a small mirror and flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is
hanging from the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow
before recoating. To make matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the
problem, I put a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks,
sealed it up and turned the wing over to soak the top inside of the
tank. When checking it the next morning, I was horrified! The ethanol
had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the wing and destroyed the
paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so that I can begin
sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to remove the old
sealant and reseal the tanks.
Have a good day.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Lenox<mailto:waynelenox@juno.com>
To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
Sorry to here you are having trouble with your tanks. Were you using
Mogas with alcohol? What did Nick say about your tanks? They have a
sealant that they can poor into the tank and reseal, if the leak is
small.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
To: <lightning-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:01:05 -0700
Hello Wayne
I haven't been on the site lately. I've been dealing with gas tank
problems. The sealant used in the gas tanks has mostly delaminated.
Needless to say, I haven't been flying either. I'm not happy.
Good to hear from someone.
Gary Pennington
Tucson, Arizona
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Patterson<mailto:Wayne@lpwa.net>
To:
lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:44 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Sun's out and shining in Perth, Western Australia. Checked out my
Kitlogpro web recently?
Wayne Patterson
LOUGHTON PATTERSON GROUP
PO Box 398 South Perth 6951
08 94742126
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Subject: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
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Gary
This sound like major disaster to me. They must be using some type of s
ealant at the factory that is not holding up to the fuel. Is fuel leaki
ng out of the wing? I am not in Arizona for the summer and will not get
back to my Lightning until November, but I will check my tanks!! The
only problem I have had with fuel is the drain. Some times when I sump
the drain for water I get some of the left over cuttings from inside th
e tank in the seal. This will let it drip until cleaned out.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
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From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
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->Good morning Wayne Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had ass
ured me several times that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the s
ealant or the tanks. Being able to use auto fuel was an important econom
ical decision for me to build and fly a Lightning. Approximately fifty
percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated. I noticed it float
ing in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I was able to remove
some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but cannot reach the rest
of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small mirror and flashlight
. The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from the tank walls like
stalactites and must be removed somehow before re-coating. To make matte
rs worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I put a couple gallons
of straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up and turned the win
g over to soak the top inside of the tank. When checking it the next mor
ning, I was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from the vent tube, ran d
own the wing and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing
to my house so that I can begin sanding and repainting. Of course, I sti
ll need to remove the old sealant and reseal the tanks. Have a good day.
Gary Pennington
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Hello again Wayne
Oddly enough, the tanks did not leak.
I also had problems with the sump drains. The "O" rings came apart on
two of them and the circlip popped off the other. I never could find the
circlip.
Have a good day.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Lenox<mailto:waynelenox@juno.com>
To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
This sound like major disaster to me. They must be using some type of
sealant at the factory that is not holding up to the fuel. Is fuel
leaking out of the wing? I am not in Arizona for the summer and will
not get back to my Lightning until November, but I will check my
tanks!! The only problem I have had with fuel is the drain. Some times
when I sump the drain for water I get some of the left over cuttings
from inside the tank in the seal. This will let it drip until cleaned
out.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
To: <lightning-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:04:43 -0700
Good morning Wayne
Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several
times that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the
tanks. Being able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision
for me to build and fly a Lightning.
Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has
delaminated. I noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when
refueling. I was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler
neck, but cannot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks
with a small mirror and flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is
hanging from the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow
before re-coating. To make matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the
problem, I put a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks,
sealed it up and turned the wing over to soak the top inside of the
tank. When checking it the next morning, I was horrified! The ethanol
had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the wing and destroyed the
paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so that I can begin
sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to remove the old
sealant and reseal the tanks.
Have a good day.
Gary Pennington
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I do not believe that the problem lies in the use of ethanol in the tanks.
There is something else wrong with either the prep or that batch of the
"kreem" Look it up it is ethanol safe has been for years and is very popular
with the motorcycle world for sealing bike tanks, they run auto gas all day
long. We will get to the bottom of this and find out the issue. I know of
several Lightnings that use auto fuel and only auto fuel for several years.
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft, LLC
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY
PENNINGTON
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Hello again Wayne
Oddly enough, the tanks did not leak.
I also had problems with the sump drains. The "O" rings came apart on two of
them and the circlip popped off the other. I never could find the circlip.
Have a good day.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Lenox <mailto:waynelenox@juno.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
This sound like major disaster to me. They must be using some type of
sealant at the factory that is not holding up to the fuel. Is fuel leaking
out of the wing? I am not in Arizona for the summer and will not get back
to my Lightning until November, but I will check my tanks!! The only
problem I have had with fuel is the drain. Some times when I sump the drain
for water I get some of the left over cuttings from inside the tank in the
seal. This will let it drip until cleaned out.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Good morning Wayne
Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several times
that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the tanks. Being
able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision for me to build
and fly a Lightning.
Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated. I
noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I was
able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but cannot
reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small mirror and
flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from the tank walls
like stalactites and must be removed somehow before re-coating. To make
matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I put a couple gallons
of straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up and turned the wing
over to soak the top inside of the tank. When checking it the next morning,
I was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the
wing and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house
so that I can begin sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to
remove the old sealant and reseal the tanks.
Have a good day.
Gary Pennington
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Nick
If there was something wrong with the product or the application, will
the warrantee cover my losses, .....$100.00 so far in Acetone to remove
the nasty stuff from inside the tanks, $500.00 in paint, plugs for the
tank, new lens covers for the landing lights that I spoke to about and
countless hours of labor....not to mention down time?
Gary Pennington
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From: flylightning<mailto:info@flylightning.net>
To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
I do not believe that the problem lies in the use of ethanol in the
tanks. There is something else wrong with either the prep or that batch
of the "kreem" Look it up it is ethanol safe has been for years and is
very popular with the motorcycle world for sealing bike tanks, they run
auto gas all day long. We will get to the bottom of this and find out
the issue. I know of several Lightnings that use auto fuel and only auto
fuel for several years.
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft, LLC
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[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY
PENNINGTON
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:01 AM
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Hello again Wayne
Oddly enough, the tanks did not leak.
I also had problems with the sump drains. The "O" rings came apart on
two of them and the circlip popped off the other. I never could find the
circlip.
Have a good day.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Lenox<mailto:waynelenox@juno.com>
To:
lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
This sound like major disaster to me. They must be using some type
of sealant at the factory that is not holding up to the fuel. Is fuel
leaking out of the wing? I am not in Arizona for the summer and will
not get back to my Lightning until November, but I will check my
tanks!! The only problem I have had with fuel is the drain. Some times
when I sump the drain for water I get some of the left over cuttings
from inside the tank in the seal. This will let it drip until cleaned
out.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
To: <lightning-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:04:43 -0700
Good morning Wayne
Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several
times that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the
tanks. Being able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision
for me to build and fly a Lightning.
Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has
delaminated. I noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when
refueling. I was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler
neck, but cannot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks
with a small mirror and flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is
hanging from the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow
before re-coating. To make matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the
problem, I put a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks,
sealed it up and turned the wing over to soak the top inside of the
tank. When checking it the next morning, I was horrified! The ethanol
had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the wing and destroyed the
paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so that I can begin
sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to remove the old
sealant and reseal the tanks.
Have a good day.
Gary Pennington
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a tip!
Clive,
Nice Post and excellent pics.=C2-
My Lightning had it's first passenger last weekend.=C2- My wife Kathy.
=C2- I'll pos thte story and some pics too.
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From: James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 2:44 am
Subject: Lightning-List: I was wondering if it was broken.....some news an
d a tip!
Was thinking of sending a test note.
All my bits for the Esqual upgrade left Shelbyville today bound for Blight
y!
I posted this on the Jabiru owners site after my trip to Norway in a 3300
engined Jabiru 430:
Some info applicable to the earlier Jabiru heads.
I recently changed a set of gaskets as a few were leaking slightly only to
have one blow within 3 flying hours.
Somewhat perplexed whilst investigating I discovered the set screws were
bottoming out in the holes even with the new gaskets so not gripping the
gaskets fully.
Addition of some plane (sorry plain) washers 1.5mm thick solved the proble
m.
My suggested long term fix would be to use spring washers instead of the
grip washers Jab supply as they are thicker than the thin grip washers..
Mind you I don't think soft iron plan washers will come loose either givin
g how well the set screws were held in when I started.
The situation is marginal and the single bolts were the worse as the manif
old plate is thinner on the side with the single bolt hole than where ther
e are the two side by side.
I think the engine was about # 300, the type w
ith the 3 into one pipe. Talking with a Jab engine guy he's seen it once
before on a similar vintage engine.
The most annoying part was I was halfway across Belgium at the time and ha
d to take a day out to get spare gaskets.
I suppose I shouldn't have set off straight after changing the gaskets but
we'd been waiting for a while for the right weather and after a permit in
spection the leaks were found.
Key pictures of the trip attached with GPS track, you'll note the divert
back to Antwerp to return some tools and as a test flight before heading
off on a 3.5 hour leg to Denmark.
That never happened due to a front North of Hamburg so after two nights in
Liege we had another delay, turned back three times before going into Gro
ningen in Northern Holland.
Last day was a belter, Holland over Germany to Denmark, 35 mins on the gro
und, past Copenhagen to Gothenburg in Sweden, 45 mins and then up the coas
t of Sweden over the South of Norway in to Stavanger.
The last leg across Norway was a little 'whiter' that I had expected
I thought it was spring!
<<Norway Trip GPS track.JPG>> <<0a-first leg diverted to Calais poor viz.J
PG>> <<0-Coasting in beach at Calais.JPG>> <<1-RAR workshop Antewerp.JPG>>
<<2-Front in NW Germany.JPG>> <<3-Shirley enjoying the sunshine.JPG>> <<4
-Norwegian terrain after 30 mins.JPG>> <<5-Norwegian terrain after 40 mins
.JPG>> <<6-deep coastal Fjord.JPG>> <<7-Stavanger comes into view.JPG>> <<
8-Stavanger even closer.JPG>>
Regards, Clive
Clive R James
Harding OIM, =0
ABP Exploration Operating Company Limited,
1 Wellheads Avenue, Dyce, Aberdeen AB21 7PB
Tel: +44 (0)1224 772982
Fax: +44 (0)1224 834896
e-mail:=C2- clive.james@bp.com
INK saving ECO SANS FONT used, www.ecofont.eu
BP Exploration Operating Company Limited, a company registered in England
and Wales with the company number 305943 and VAT number GB365678995 and
whose registered office is Chertsey Road, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex TW
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In a message dated 5/14/2009 7:07:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pennington@q.com writes:
Nick
If there was something wrong with the product or the application, will the
warrantee cover my losses, .....$100.00 so far in Acetone to remove the
nasty stuff from inside the tanks, $500.00 in paint, plugs for the tank, new
lens covers for the landing lights that I spoke to about and countless
hours of labor....not to mention down time?
Gary Pennington
Gary,
While I feel your frustrations, I want to speak to the notion of a
warrantee. I have some bias as a kitplane (SkyRanger) supplier who has heard
some
rather unreasonable expectations from customers. Since the kits can cost
as much as a new car, some folks think the warrantee should be similar!!
But once a builder has a kit, there is little control over what happens
next.
First, I think there is something in your fuel besides alcohol. There is
no way ethanol is going to remove your paint, particularly overnight. It
just isnt that strong. If you were burning MEK or Acetone, maybe. I
think you got a bad batch of fuel. Or somebody hates you at your airport!!!
Second, I would hope that Nick would NOT offer anything! I know that
sounds harsh and makes me a bad guy, but in cases other than outright
mistakes, it is a slippery slope for a supplier of possible aircraft parts to
offer much of a warrantee. It is one thing to offer a replacement part
for one that is CLEARLY DEFECTIVE, but once it becomes an airplane, the
warrantee should be the responsibility of the Manufacturer, which is the person
on the nameplate, not the supplier of the parts. The supplier just has
very limited control over what happens. I am not saying you did something
wrong which caused the problem, I am saying it is difficult to determine
cause and effect....because some of the causes may not be known or revealed.
Given the number of Lightnings flying who are using auto fuel as well as
100LL, and given that the same material is used in all; it is unlikely a
problem caused by the fabrication of the tank. It just seems like
something else is going on.
Just my $.02.
Doug Koenigsberg
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Gary,
What kit number do you have? It is possible that other kits manufactured
near the same time as yours have the same problem. I want to know if I and
others need to be aware of the possibility of having the same problem that
you have had. Thanks for sharing a problem that could be an issue for
others, too.
Steve Sundquist
Kit No. 48
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY
PENNINGTON
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Good morning Wayne
Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several times
that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the tanks. Being
able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision for me to build
and fly a Lightning.
Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated. I
noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I was
able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but cannot
reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small mirror and
flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from the tank walls
like stalactites and must be removed somehow before recoating. To make
matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I put a couple gallons
of straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up and turned the wing
over to soak the top inside of the tank. When checking it the next morning,
I was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the
wing and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house
so that I can begin sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to
remove the old sealant and reseal the tanks.
Have a good day.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Lenox <mailto:waynelenox@juno.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
Sorry to here you are having trouble with your tanks. Were you using Mogas
with alcohol? What did Nick say about your tanks? They have a sealant that
they can poor into the tank and reseal, if the leak is small.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Hello Wayne
I haven't been on the site lately. I've been dealing with gas tank problems.
The sealant used in the gas tanks has mostly delaminated. Needless to say, I
haven't been flying either. I'm not happy.
Good to hear from someone.
Gary Pennington
Tucson, Arizona
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne <mailto:Wayne@lpwa.net> Patterson
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:44 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Sun's out and shining in Perth, Western Australia. Checked out my Kitlogpro
web recently?
Wayne Patterson
LOUGHTON PATTERSON GROUP
PO Box 398 South Perth 6951
08 94742126
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