---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/14/09: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:12 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (Wayne Lenox) 2. 07:10 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (N1BZRich@AOL.COM) 3. 07:10 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (GARY PENNINGTON) 4. 07:44 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (Wayne Lenox) 5. 08:16 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (GARY PENNINGTON) 6. 09:45 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (flylightning) 7. 04:06 PM - Re: Where is everyone? (GARY PENNINGTON) 8. 05:40 PM - Re: I was wondering if it was broken.....some news and a tip! (n5pb@AOL.COM) 9. 06:02 PM - Re: Where is everyone? (Kayberg@AOL.COM) 10. 08:09 PM - Re: Where is everyone? (Steven Sundquist) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:53 AM PST US From: "Wayne Lenox" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Gary Sorry to here you are having trouble with your tanks. Were you using Mo gas with alcohol? What did Nick say about your tanks? They have a seal ant that they can poor into the tank and reseal, if the leak is small. Wayne Lenox N123WL ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Hello Wayne I haven't been on the site lately. I've been dealing with gas tank problems. The sealant used in the gas tanks has mostly delamina ted. Needless to say, I haven't been flying either. I'm not happy. Good to hear from someone. Gary PenningtonTucson, Arizona----- Original Messa ge ----- From: Wayne Patterson To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Tu esday, May 12, 2009 7:44 PMSubject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyon e? Sun's out and shining in Perth, Western Australia. Checked out my Kitlo gpro web recently? Wayne Patterson LOUGHTON PATTERSON GROUP PO Box 398 South Perth 6951 08 94742126 From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning- list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Langley Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 10:34 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? 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In a message dated 5/13/2009 10:54:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pequeajim@gmail.com writes: I have a couple of things that I can send you for the newsletter. - Using Rustoleum to create a nice looking panel - Electric cabin heat control I will send you something in the next week or so. Great Jim, thanks. Some photos will be nice also. Blue Skies, Buz **************Dell Mini Netbooks: Great deals starting at $299 after instant savings! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:15 AM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Good morning Wayne Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several times that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the tanks. Being able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision for me to build and fly a Lightning. Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated. I noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but cannot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small mirror and flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow before recoating. To make matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I put a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up and turned the wing over to soak the top inside of the tank. When checking it the next morning, I was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the wing and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so that I can begin sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to remove the old sealant and reseal the tanks. Have a good day. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Lenox To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Gary Sorry to here you are having trouble with your tanks. Were you using Mogas with alcohol? What did Nick say about your tanks? They have a sealant that they can poor into the tank and reseal, if the leak is small. Wayne Lenox N123WL ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "GARY PENNINGTON" To: Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:01:05 -0700 Hello Wayne I haven't been on the site lately. I've been dealing with gas tank problems. The sealant used in the gas tanks has mostly delaminated. Needless to say, I haven't been flying either. I'm not happy. Good to hear from someone. Gary Pennington Tucson, Arizona ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Patterson To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:44 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Sun's out and shining in Perth, Western Australia. Checked out my Kitlogpro web recently? Wayne Patterson LOUGHTON PATTERSON GROUP PO Box 398 South Perth 6951 08 94742126 From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Langley Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 10:34 AM To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? 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They must be using some type of s ealant at the factory that is not holding up to the fuel. Is fuel leaki ng out of the wing? I am not in Arizona for the summer and will not get back to my Lightning until November, but I will check my tanks!! The only problem I have had with fuel is the drain. Some times when I sump the drain for water I get some of the left over cuttings from inside th e tank in the seal. This will let it drip until cleaned out. Wayne Lenox N123WL ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Good morning Wayne Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had ass ured me several times that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the s ealant or the tanks. Being able to use auto fuel was an important econom ical decision for me to build and fly a Lightning. Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated. I noticed it float ing in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but cannot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small mirror and flashlight . The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow before re-coating. To make matte rs worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I put a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up and turned the win g over to soak the top inside of the tank. When checking it the next mor ning, I was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from the vent tube, ran d own the wing and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so that I can begin sanding and repainting. Of course, I sti ll need to remove the old sealant and reseal the tanks. Have a good day. Gary Pennington ____________________________________________________________ Digital Photography - Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmQXtuiqerKJMXptxKh1 YPf64Yq8839k5Me34CyO1siWQmodtnC/ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:37 AM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Hello again Wayne Oddly enough, the tanks did not leak. I also had problems with the sump drains. The "O" rings came apart on two of them and the circlip popped off the other. I never could find the circlip. Have a good day. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Lenox To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:30 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Gary This sound like major disaster to me. They must be using some type of sealant at the factory that is not holding up to the fuel. Is fuel leaking out of the wing? I am not in Arizona for the summer and will not get back to my Lightning until November, but I will check my tanks!! The only problem I have had with fuel is the drain. Some times when I sump the drain for water I get some of the left over cuttings from inside the tank in the seal. This will let it drip until cleaned out. Wayne Lenox N123WL ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "GARY PENNINGTON" To: Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:04:43 -0700 Good morning Wayne Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several times that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the tanks. Being able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision for me to build and fly a Lightning. Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated. I noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but cannot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small mirror and flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow before re-coating. To make matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I put a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up and turned the wing over to soak the top inside of the tank. When checking it the next morning, I was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the wing and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so that I can begin sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to remove the old sealant and reseal the tanks. Have a good day. 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Nick Otterback Arion Aircraft, LLC _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Hello again Wayne Oddly enough, the tanks did not leak. I also had problems with the sump drains. The "O" rings came apart on two of them and the circlip popped off the other. I never could find the circlip. Have a good day. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Lenox Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:30 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Gary This sound like major disaster to me. They must be using some type of sealant at the factory that is not holding up to the fuel. Is fuel leaking out of the wing? I am not in Arizona for the summer and will not get back to my Lightning until November, but I will check my tanks!! The only problem I have had with fuel is the drain. Some times when I sump the drain for water I get some of the left over cuttings from inside the tank in the seal. This will let it drip until cleaned out. Wayne Lenox N123WL ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Good morning Wayne Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several times that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the tanks. Being able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision for me to build and fly a Lightning. Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated. I noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but cannot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small mirror and flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow before re-coating. To make matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I put a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up and turned the wing over to soak the top inside of the tank. When checking it the next morning, I was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the wing and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so that I can begin sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to remove the old sealant and reseal the tanks. Have a good day. Gary Pennington ____________________________________________________________ Digital Photography - Click Now. title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:06:01 PM PST US From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Nick If there was something wrong with the product or the application, will the warrantee cover my losses, .....$100.00 so far in Acetone to remove the nasty stuff from inside the tanks, $500.00 in paint, plugs for the tank, new lens covers for the landing lights that I spoke to about and countless hours of labor....not to mention down time? Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: flylightning To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:25 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? I do not believe that the problem lies in the use of ethanol in the tanks. There is something else wrong with either the prep or that batch of the "kreem" Look it up it is ethanol safe has been for years and is very popular with the motorcycle world for sealing bike tanks, they run auto gas all day long. We will get to the bottom of this and find out the issue. I know of several Lightnings that use auto fuel and only auto fuel for several years. Nick Otterback Arion Aircraft, LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:01 AM To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Hello again Wayne Oddly enough, the tanks did not leak. I also had problems with the sump drains. The "O" rings came apart on two of them and the circlip popped off the other. I never could find the circlip. Have a good day. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Lenox To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:30 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Gary This sound like major disaster to me. They must be using some type of sealant at the factory that is not holding up to the fuel. Is fuel leaking out of the wing? I am not in Arizona for the summer and will not get back to my Lightning until November, but I will check my tanks!! The only problem I have had with fuel is the drain. Some times when I sump the drain for water I get some of the left over cuttings from inside the tank in the seal. This will let it drip until cleaned out. Wayne Lenox N123WL ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "GARY PENNINGTON" To: Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:04:43 -0700 Good morning Wayne Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several times that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the tanks. Being able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision for me to build and fly a Lightning. Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated. I noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but cannot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small mirror and flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow before re-coating. To make matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I put a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up and turned the wing over to soak the top inside of the tank. When checking it the next morning, I was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the wing and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so that I can begin sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to remove the old sealant and reseal the tanks. Have a good day. Gary Pennington ____________________________________________________________ Digital Photography - Click Now. title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">h ttp://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:44 PM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: I was wondering if it was broken.....some news and a tip! From: n5pb@AOL.COM Clive, Nice Post and excellent pics.=C2- My Lightning had it's first passenger last weekend.=C2- My wife Kathy. =C2- I'll pos thte story and some pics too. -----Original Message----- From: James, Clive R Sent: Wed, 13 May 2009 2:44 am Subject: Lightning-List: I was wondering if it was broken.....some news an d a tip! Was thinking of sending a test note. All my bits for the Esqual upgrade left Shelbyville today bound for Blight y! I posted this on the Jabiru owners site after my trip to Norway in a 3300 engined Jabiru 430: Some info applicable to the earlier Jabiru heads. I recently changed a set of gaskets as a few were leaking slightly only to have one blow within 3 flying hours. Somewhat perplexed whilst investigating I discovered the set screws were bottoming out in the holes even with the new gaskets so not gripping the gaskets fully. Addition of some plane (sorry plain) washers 1.5mm thick solved the proble m. My suggested long term fix would be to use spring washers instead of the grip washers Jab supply as they are thicker than the thin grip washers.. Mind you I don't think soft iron plan washers will come loose either givin g how well the set screws were held in when I started. The situation is marginal and the single bolts were the worse as the manif old plate is thinner on the side with the single bolt hole than where ther e are the two side by side. I think the engine was about # 300, the type w ith the 3 into one pipe. Talking with a Jab engine guy he's seen it once before on a similar vintage engine. The most annoying part was I was halfway across Belgium at the time and ha d to take a day out to get spare gaskets. I suppose I shouldn't have set off straight after changing the gaskets but we'd been waiting for a while for the right weather and after a permit in spection the leaks were found. Key pictures of the trip attached with GPS track, you'll note the divert back to Antwerp to return some tools and as a test flight before heading off on a 3.5 hour leg to Denmark. That never happened due to a front North of Hamburg so after two nights in Liege we had another delay, turned back three times before going into Gro ningen in Northern Holland. Last day was a belter, Holland over Germany to Denmark, 35 mins on the gro und, past Copenhagen to Gothenburg in Sweden, 45 mins and then up the coas t of Sweden over the South of Norway in to Stavanger. The last leg across Norway was a little 'whiter' that I had expected I thought it was spring! <> <<0a-first leg diverted to Calais poor viz.J PG>> <<0-Coasting in beach at Calais.JPG>> <<1-RAR workshop Antewerp.JPG>> <<2-Front in NW Germany.JPG>> <<3-Shirley enjoying the sunshine.JPG>> <<4 -Norwegian terrain after 30 mins.JPG>> <<5-Norwegian terrain after 40 mins .JPG>> <<6-deep coastal Fjord.JPG>> <<7-Stavanger comes into view.JPG>> << 8-Stavanger even closer.JPG>> Regards, Clive Clive R James Harding OIM, =0 ABP Exploration Operating Company Limited, 1 Wellheads Avenue, Dyce, Aberdeen AB21 7PB Tel: +44 (0)1224 772982 Fax: +44 (0)1224 834896 e-mail:=C2- clive.james@bp.com INK saving ECO SANS FONT used, www.ecofont.eu BP Exploration Operating Company Limited, a company registered in England and Wales with the company number 305943 and VAT number GB365678995 and whose registered office is Chertsey Road, Sunbury on Thames, Middlesex TW 16 7BP [Image Removed] [Image Removed] [Image Removed] [Image Removed] [Image Removed] [Image Removed] [Image Removed] [Image Removed] [Image Removed] [Image Removed] [Image Removed] ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:34 PM PST US From: Kayberg@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? In a message dated 5/14/2009 7:07:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pennington@q.com writes: Nick If there was something wrong with the product or the application, will the warrantee cover my losses, .....$100.00 so far in Acetone to remove the nasty stuff from inside the tanks, $500.00 in paint, plugs for the tank, new lens covers for the landing lights that I spoke to about and countless hours of labor....not to mention down time? Gary Pennington Gary, While I feel your frustrations, I want to speak to the notion of a warrantee. I have some bias as a kitplane (SkyRanger) supplier who has heard some rather unreasonable expectations from customers. Since the kits can cost as much as a new car, some folks think the warrantee should be similar!! But once a builder has a kit, there is little control over what happens next. First, I think there is something in your fuel besides alcohol. There is no way ethanol is going to remove your paint, particularly overnight. It just isnt that strong. If you were burning MEK or Acetone, maybe. I think you got a bad batch of fuel. Or somebody hates you at your airport!!! Second, I would hope that Nick would NOT offer anything! I know that sounds harsh and makes me a bad guy, but in cases other than outright mistakes, it is a slippery slope for a supplier of possible aircraft parts to offer much of a warrantee. It is one thing to offer a replacement part for one that is CLEARLY DEFECTIVE, but once it becomes an airplane, the warrantee should be the responsibility of the Manufacturer, which is the person on the nameplate, not the supplier of the parts. The supplier just has very limited control over what happens. I am not saying you did something wrong which caused the problem, I am saying it is difficult to determine cause and effect....because some of the causes may not be known or revealed. Given the number of Lightnings flying who are using auto fuel as well as 100LL, and given that the same material is used in all; it is unlikely a problem caused by the fabrication of the tank. It just seems like something else is going on. Just my $.02. Doug Koenigsberg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:23 PM PST US From: "Steven Sundquist" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Gary, What kit number do you have? It is possible that other kits manufactured near the same time as yours have the same problem. I want to know if I and others need to be aware of the possibility of having the same problem that you have had. Thanks for sharing a problem that could be an issue for others, too. Steve Sundquist Kit No. 48 _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:05 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Good morning Wayne Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several times that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the tanks. Being able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision for me to build and fly a Lightning. Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated. I noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but cannot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small mirror and flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow before recoating. To make matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I put a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up and turned the wing over to soak the top inside of the tank. When checking it the next morning, I was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the wing and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so that I can begin sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to remove the old sealant and reseal the tanks. Have a good day. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Lenox Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:53 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Gary Sorry to here you are having trouble with your tanks. Were you using Mogas with alcohol? What did Nick say about your tanks? They have a sealant that they can poor into the tank and reseal, if the leak is small. Wayne Lenox N123WL ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "GARY PENNINGTON" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Hello Wayne I haven't been on the site lately. I've been dealing with gas tank problems. The sealant used in the gas tanks has mostly delaminated. Needless to say, I haven't been flying either. I'm not happy. Good to hear from someone. Gary Pennington Tucson, Arizona ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Patterson Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:44 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? Sun's out and shining in Perth, Western Australia. Checked out my Kitlogpro web recently? Wayne Patterson LOUGHTON PATTERSON GROUP PO Box 398 South Perth 6951 08 94742126 From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Langley Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 10:34 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Where is everyone? 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