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1. 06:18 AM - Re: Where is everyone? (flylightning)
2. 12:22 PM - Re: Where is everyone? (GARY PENNINGTON)
3. 12:22 PM - Re: Where is everyone? (GARY PENNINGTON)
4. 12:55 PM - Re: Where is everyone? (Wayne Lenox)
5. 01:16 PM - Re: Where is everyone? (Mefford, Walt)
6. 02:14 PM - Re: Where is everyone? (GARY PENNINGTON)
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Gary,
I have sent the material to reseal the tanks and Greg your dealer has
offered up any assistance that is needed.
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft, LLC
_____
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY
PENNINGTON
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Nick
If there was something wrong with the product or the application, will the
warrantee cover my losses, .....$100.00 so far in Acetone to remove the
nasty stuff from inside the tanks, $500.00 in paint, plugs for the tank, new
lens covers for the landing lights that I spoke to about and countless hours
of labor....not to mention down time?
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: flylightning <mailto:info@flylightning.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
I do not believe that the problem lies in the use of ethanol in the tanks.
There is something else wrong with either the prep or that batch of the
"kreem" Look it up it is ethanol safe has been for years and is very popular
with the motorcycle world for sealing bike tanks, they run auto gas all day
long. We will get to the bottom of this and find out the issue. I know of
several Lightnings that use auto fuel and only auto fuel for several years.
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft, LLC
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY
PENNINGTON
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Hello again Wayne
Oddly enough, the tanks did not leak.
I also had problems with the sump drains. The "O" rings came apart on two of
them and the circlip popped off the other. I never could find the circlip.
Have a good day.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Lenox <mailto:waynelenox@juno.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
This sound like major disaster to me. They must be using some type of
sealant at the factory that is not holding up to the fuel. Is fuel leaking
out of the wing? I am not in Arizona for the summer and will not get back
to my Lightning until November, but I will check my tanks!! The only
problem I have had with fuel is the drain. Some times when I sump the drain
for water I get some of the left over cuttings from inside the tank in the
seal. This will let it drip until cleaned out.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Good morning Wayne
Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several times
that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the tanks. Being
able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision for me to build
and fly a Lightning.
Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated. I
noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I was
able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but cannot
reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small mirror and
flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from the tank walls
like stalactites and must be removed somehow before re-coating. To make
matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I put a couple gallons
of straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up and turned the wing
over to soak the top inside of the tank. When checking it the next morning,
I was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the
wing and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house
so that I can begin sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to
remove the old sealant and reseal the tanks.
Have a good day.
Gary Pennington
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Doug, Doug, Doug
I can always count on you to take a negative, "Screw the Customer"
position. You have voiced this attitude with me before and I ignored it.
I just assumed you were a major ASS! But not this time Doug! Now you've
gone to far.
You are saying that the Arion Lightning Company should not be expected
to assume any responsibility what-so-ever for their product .
Apparently, you believe that a manufacturer can produce and sell faulty
products to unsuspecting customers and the customer should have no
recourse when it fails. In your opinion, if something goes wrong, it is
always the customers fault. The United States is full of people like
you. But thankfully, because of the poor economy, that is changing.
Businesses like yours are filing bankruptcy every day and you could be
next. With your attitude, you should be next! I'm surprised that Pete
hasn't put Duct Tape over your mouth to prevent you from damaging the
Lightning reputation. Nick has been courteous during this ordeal and
Greg Hobbs is a very nice guy. But not you Doug! You don't give a damn
about the customer!
Understand this Doug....people who purchase a Lightning aircraft, spend
upwards of $100,000.00 for a product that the Arion Lightning staff
claim to be high quality and safe. That may be chicken feed to you, but
for the rest of us, it is a great deal of money! You to have the
audacity to say that we should not expect you to be held accountable?
You should be horse whipped! I will offer my services!
It must be my imagination that the sealant inside the tanks has
delaminated. I must be delusional thinking my wing is sitting there with
the paint lifted and wrinkled up. Let me remind you Douggy, I did not
build the tanks. Nor did I prep and apply the sealant. Arion Lightning
did! You should be thankful that the sealant didn't plug the fuel lines
during my last flight. I could have been killed. How do you think the
NTSB would view your responsibility in the matter Douggy? Don't think
this matter is can be swept under the rug. I'm keeping all applicable
emails and I will do my part to inform potential Lightning customers.
You have pissed off the wrong guy.
One last thing, all the work I did on the plane is functioning
perfectly. Don't take my word for it. Ask anyone who has seen it.
NOTICE TO PROSPECTIVE LIGHTNING BUILDERS AND CURRENT OWNERS!
Check your fuel tanks! Especially if you are burning auto fuel with
ethanol. If there is any indication of delaminating sealant , do not fly
the plane. Your life may depend on it.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Kayberg@aol.com<mailto:Kayberg@aol.com>
To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
In a message dated 5/14/2009 7:07:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pennington@q.com<mailto:pennington@q.com> writes:
Nick
If there was something wrong with the product or the application,
will the warrantee cover my losses, .....$100.00 so far in Acetone to
remove the nasty stuff from inside the tanks, $500.00 in paint, plugs
for the tank, new lens covers for the landing lights that I spoke to
about and countless hours of labor....not to mention down time?
Gary Pennington
Gary,
While I feel your frustrations, I want to speak to the notion of a
warrantee. I have some bias as a kitplane (SkyRanger) supplier who has
heard some rather unreasonable expectations from customers. Since the
kits can cost as much as a new car, some folks think the warrantee
should be similar!! But once a builder has a kit, there is little
control over what happens next.
First, I think there is something in your fuel besides alcohol.
There is no way ethanol is going to remove your paint, particularly
overnight. It just isnt that strong. If you were burning MEK or
Acetone, maybe. I think you got a bad batch of fuel. Or somebody
hates you at your airport!!!
Second, I would hope that Nick would NOT offer anything! I know
that sounds harsh and makes me a bad guy, but in cases other than
outright mistakes, it is a slippery slope for a supplier of possible
aircraft parts to offer much of a warrantee. It is one thing to offer
a replacement part for one that is CLEARLY DEFECTIVE, but once it
becomes an airplane, the warrantee should be the responsibility of the
Manufacturer, which is the person on the nameplate, not the supplier of
the parts. The supplier just has very limited control over what
happens. I am not saying you did something wrong which caused the
problem, I am saying it is difficult to determine cause and
effect....because some of the causes may not be known or revealed.
Given the number of Lightnings flying who are using auto fuel as well
as 100LL, and given that the same material is used in all; it is
unlikely a problem caused by the fabrication of the tank. It just
seems like something else is going on.
Just my $.02.
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Hello Steve
I think my kit number was around 70???? Not really sure. Good luck to
you.
Fly safe.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Sundquist<mailto:sttwig@wabroadband.com>
To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary,
What kit number do you have? It is possible that other kits
manufactured near the same time as yours have the same problem. I want
to know if I and others need to be aware of the possibility of having
the same problem that you have had. Thanks for sharing a problem that
could be an issue for others, too.
Steve Sundquist
Kit No. 48
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY
PENNINGTON
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:05 AM
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Good morning Wayne
Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several
times that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the
tanks. Being able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision
for me to build and fly a Lightning.
Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has
delaminated. I noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when
refueling. I was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler
neck, but cannot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks
with a small mirror and flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is
hanging from the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow
before recoating. To make matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the
problem, I put a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks,
sealed it up and turned the wing over to soak the top inside of the
tank. When checking it the next morning, I was horrified! The ethanol
had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the wing and destroyed the
paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so that I can begin
sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to remove the old
sealant and reseal the tanks.
Have a good day.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Lenox<mailto:waynelenox@juno.com>
To:
lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
Sorry to here you are having trouble with your tanks. Were you
using Mogas with alcohol? What did Nick say about your tanks? They
have a sealant that they can poor into the tank and reseal, if the leak
is small.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
To: <lightning-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:01:05 -0700
Hello Wayne
I haven't been on the site lately. I've been dealing with gas tank
problems. The sealant used in the gas tanks has mostly delaminated.
Needless to say, I haven't been flying either. I'm not happy.
Good to hear from someone.
Gary Pennington
Tucson, Arizona
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Patterson<mailto:Wayne@lpwa.net>
To:
lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:44 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
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LOUGHTON PATTERSON GROUP
PO Box 398 South Perth 6951
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Gary
When did you start your Lightning? I started in may 08 and have kit 62.
You could look at the serial # stamped on many parts.
Wayne
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
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smarttags" />Gary,
What kit number do you have? It is possible that other kits manufacture
d near the same time as yours have the same problem. I want to know if
I and others need to be aware of the possibility of having the same prob
lem that you have had. Thanks for sharing a problem that could be an is
sue for others, too.
Steve Sundquist
Kit No. 48
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-
list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Good morning Wayne
Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several times
that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the tanks.
Being able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision for me
to build and fly a Lightning.
Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated
. I noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I
was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but ca
nnot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small m
irror and flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from
the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow before recoa
ting. To make matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I pu
t a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up
and turned the wing over to soak the top inside of the tank. When check
ing it the next morning, I was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from t
he vent tube, ran down the wing and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I tr
ansported the wing to my house so that I can begin sanding and repaintin
g. Of course, I still need to remove the old sealant and reseal the tank
s.
Have a good day.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Lenox
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
Sorry to here you are having trouble with your tanks. Were you using Mo
gas with alcohol? What did Nick say about your tanks? They have a seal
ant that they can poor into the tank and reseal, if the leak is small.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Hello Wayne
I haven't been on the site lately. I've been dealing with gas tank probl
ems. The sealant used in the gas tanks has mostly delaminated. Needless
to say, I haven't been flying either. I'm not happy.
Good to hear from someone.
Gary Pennington
Tucson, Arizona
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Patterson
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:44 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
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Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 10:34 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
When did you start your Lightning? I started in may 08 and have kit 62. Y
ou could look at the serial # stamped on many parts.
Wayne
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Hello Steve
I think my kit number was around 70???? Not really sure. Good luck to you.
Fly safe.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Sundquist<mailto:sttwig@wabroadband.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary,
What kit number do you have? It is possible that other kits manufactured n
ear the same time as yours have the same problem. I want to know if I and
others need to be aware of the possibility of having the same problem that
you have had. Thanks for sharing a problem that could be an issue for othe
rs, too.
Steve Sundquist
Kit No. 48
________________________________
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Good morning Wayne
Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several times th
at auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the tanks. Being
able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision for me to build
and fly a Lightning.
Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has delaminated. I
noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when refueling. I was a
ble to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler neck, but cannot reac
h the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks with a small mirror and fl
ashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is hanging from the tank walls
like stalactites and must be removed somehow before recoating. To make matt
ers worse, thinking ethanol could be the problem, I put a couple gallons of
straight ethanol in one of the tanks, sealed it up and turned the wing ove
r to soak the top inside of the tank. When checking it the next morning, I
was horrified! The ethanol had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the win
g and destroyed the paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so
that I can begin sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to remove
the old sealant and reseal the tanks.
Have a good day.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Lenox<mailto:waynelenox@juno.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
Sorry to here you are having trouble with your tanks. Were you using Mogas
with alcohol? What did Nick say about your tanks? They have a sealant th
at they can poor into the tank and reseal, if the leak is small.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Hello Wayne
I haven't been on the site lately. I've been dealing with gas tank problems
. The sealant used in the gas tanks has mostly delaminated. Needless to say
, I haven't been flying either. I'm not happy.
Good to hear from someone.
Gary Pennington
Tucson, Arizona
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Patterson<mailto:Wayne@lpwa.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:44 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Sun's out and shining in Perth, Western Australia. Checked out my Kitlogpr
o web recently?
Wayne Patterson
LOUGHTON PATTERSON GROUP
PO Box 398 South Perth 6951
08 94742126
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-lightning-list
-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] O
n Behalf Of Jim Langley
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2009 10:34 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
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Hello Wayne
I just looked through my POH and documents. I paid my final payment on
July 8, 2008 and received the kit about a month later. The kit number is
#71.
Have a great day.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Lenox<mailto:waynelenox@juno.com>
To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
When did you start your Lightning? I started in may 08 and have kit
62. You could look at the serial # stamped on many parts.
Wayne
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com<mailto:pennington@q.com>>
To:
<lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:16:31 -0700
Hello Steve
I think my kit number was around 70???? Not really sure. Good luck to
you.
Fly safe.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Sundquist<mailto:sttwig@wabroadband.com>
To:
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Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:03 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary,
What kit number do you have? It is possible that other kits
manufactured near the same time as yours have the same problem. I want
to know if I and others need to be aware of the possibility of having
the same problem that you have had. Thanks for sharing a problem that
could be an issue for others, too.
Steve Sundquist
Kit No. 48
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[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY
PENNINGTON
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:05 AM
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Good morning Wayne
Yes, I have been using Mogas, however; Nick had assured me several
times that auto fuel with ethanol would not damage the sealant or the
tanks. Being able to use auto fuel was an important economical decision
for me to build and fly a Lightning.
Approximately fifty percent of the sealant in both tanks has
delaminated. I noticed it floating in the tanks about a month ago when
refueling. I was able to remove some of it, directly beneath the filler
neck, but cannot reach the rest of it. I have looked inside the tanks
with a small mirror and flashlight. The partially delaminated sealant is
hanging from the tank walls like stalactites and must be removed somehow
before recoating. To make matters worse, thinking ethanol could be the
problem, I put a couple gallons of straight ethanol in one of the tanks,
sealed it up and turned the wing over to soak the top inside of the
tank. When checking it the next morning, I was horrified! The ethanol
had escaped from the vent tube, ran down the wing and destroyed the
paint. Yesterday, I transported the wing to my house so that I can begin
sanding and repainting. Of course, I still need to remove the old
sealant and reseal the tanks.
Have a good day.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Lenox<mailto:waynelenox@juno.com>
To:
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Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Gary
Sorry to here you are having trouble with your tanks. Were you
using Mogas with alcohol? What did Nick say about your tanks? They
have a sealant that they can poor into the tank and reseal, if the leak
is small.
Wayne Lenox
N123WL
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From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington@q.com>
To: <lightning-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:01:05 -0700
Hello Wayne
I haven't been on the site lately. I've been dealing with gas tank
problems. The sealant used in the gas tanks has mostly delaminated.
Needless to say, I haven't been flying either. I'm not happy.
Good to hear from someone.
Gary Pennington
Tucson, Arizona
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Patterson<mailto:Wayne@lpwa.net>
To:
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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:44 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Where is everyone?
Sun's out and shining in Perth, Western Australia. Checked out
my Kitlogpro web recently?
Wayne Patterson
LOUGHTON PATTERSON GROUP
PO Box 398 South Perth 6951
08 94742126
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