---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/31/09: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:38 AM - More new EFIS and carb options (Brian Whittingham) 2. 06:37 AM - Re: More new EFIS and carb options (Jim Langley) 3. 09:22 AM - Odyssey battery PC 625 (Charles Dewey) 4. 11:14 AM - Re: Odyssey battery PC 625 (Wayne Lenox) 5. 01:46 PM - Re: Odyssey battery PC 625 (Hugh Sontag) 6. 01:53 PM - Friday OSH report (N1BZRich@AOL.COM) 7. 02:46 PM - Re: More new EFIS and carb options (Brian Whittingham) 8. 06:17 PM - Re: Odyssey battery PC 625 (kayberg@aol.com) 9. 06:17 PM - Re: Friday OSH report (Hollis Babb) 10. 06:55 PM - Re: More new EFIS and carb options (Jim Langley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:15 AM PST US From: Brian Whittingham Subject: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options All=2C I'm not trying to get you interested in a new aircraft=2C but there 's a company that comes from the same background as myself called MySky One . What I'd really like to point out is that they trust the Jabiru 3300 for their aircraft and they have a couple of instruments that look pretty good . Take a look at the MSFAS and MSFIC: http://www.mysky.aero/flight-informa tion-center--lsa-mysky-aircraft-msone-FIC1.html Now I can't say that I hav e experience with using this system=2C but it might be worth a look for som e of those who have not decided what to put into your panel yet. They also have developed a carb and mixture control for the Jabiru. I'm not sure if that was the one that was talked about on here previously or not=2C but th ey have over 70 hours on their plane so it has some time on it and also mig ht be worth your while to check out! Thanks=2C Brian Whittingham _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Store=2C access=2C and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072 009 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:36 AM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options Brian: Their EFIS is a built by MGL and in that form is called the Enigma. It has been around for about 4 years and you are right, it is an awesome package for the money. I have the MGL Voyager (next step up), in my Lightning which is in the Arion booth, so if anyone wants' to see what it looks like in the Lightning panel, feel free to stop by. From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Whittingham Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:23 AM Subject: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options All, I'm not trying to get you interested in a new aircraft, but there's a company that comes from the same background as myself called MySky One. What I'd really like to point out is that they trust the Jabiru 3300 for their aircraft and they have a couple of instruments that look pretty good. Take a look at the MSFAS and MSFIC: http://www.mysky.aero/flight-information-center--lsa-mysky-aircraft-msone-FI C1.html Now I can't say that I have experience with using this system, but it might be worth a look for some of those who have not decided what to put into your panel yet. They also have developed a carb and mixture control for the Jabiru. I'm not sure if that was the one that was talked about on here previously or not, but they have over 70 hours on their plane so it has some time on it and also might be worth your while to check out! Thanks, Brian Whittingham _____ Windows LiveT SkyDriveT: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:18 AM PST US From: Charles Dewey Subject: Lightning-List: Odyssey battery PC 625 Are people still using the Odyssey battery PC625 in their Lightnings? Wondering if there is a better battery out there. Ours doesn't hold a charge, but is a couple years old. Charles --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Jim Langley wrote: > From: Jim Langley > Subject: RE: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:37 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian: > > > > Their EFIS is a built by MGL > and in that form is called the > Enigma. It has been around for about 4 years and you > are right, it is an awesome > package for the money. I have the MGL Voyager (next > step up), in my Lightning > which is in the Arion booth, so if anyone wants to > see what it looks like in > the Lightning panel, feel free to stop by. > > > > > > > > From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Brian > Whittingham > > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:23 AM > > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb > options > > > > > > > > All, I'm not trying to get > you interested in a new aircraft, but there's a company > that comes from the same background as myself called MySky > One. What I'd really like to point out is that > they trust the Jabiru 3300 for their aircraft and they have > a couple of instruments that look pretty good. Take a > look at the MSFAS and MSFIC: http://www.mysky.aero/flight-information-center--lsa-mysky-aircraft-msone-FIC1.htmlNow I can't say > that I have experience with using this system, but it might > be worth a look for some of those who have not decided what > to put into your panel yet. They also have developed a > carb and mixture control for the Jabiru. I'm not > sure if that was the one that was talked about on here > previously or not, but they have over 70 hours on their > plane so it has some time on it and also might be worth your > while to check out! Thanks, Brian > Whittingham > > > > > > > > > > Windows > Live SkyDrive: Store, access, and share your > photos. See how. > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:27 AM PST US From: "Wayne Lenox" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Odyssey battery PC 625 Charles I use a Odyssey Battery 925L, It works great. Also have been using fou r odyssey 2150's in my motor home and love them. Wayne L Lightning N123WL ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Charles Dewey Subject: Lightning-List: Odyssey battery PC 625 m> Are people still using the Odyssey battery PC625 in their Lightnings? Wo ndering if there is a better battery out there. Ours doesn't hold a char ge, but is a couple years old. Charles --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Jim Langley wrote: > From: Jim Langley > Subject: RE: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:37 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian: > > =C2 > > Their EFIS is a built by MGL > and in that form is called the > Enigma.=C2 It has been around for about 4 years and you > are right, it is an awesome > package for the money.=C2 I have the MGL Voyager (next > step up), =C2 in my Lightning > which is in the Arion booth, so if anyone wants=99 to > see what it looks like in > the Lightning panel, feel free to stop by. > > =C2 > > > > > > From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Brian > Whittingham > > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:23 AM > > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb > options > > > > > > =C2 > > All,=C2 I'm not trying to get > you interested in a new aircraft, but there's a company > that comes from the same background as myself called MySky > One.=C2 What I'd really like to point out is that > they trust the Jabiru 3300 for their aircraft and they have > a couple of instruments that look pretty good.=C2 Take a > look at the MSFAS and MSFIC: http://www.mysky.aero/flight-information- center--lsa-mysky-aircraft-msone-FIC1.html=C2 =C2 Now I can't say > that I have experience with using this system, but it might > be worth a look for some of those who have not decided what > to put into your panel yet. =C2 They also have developed a > carb and mixture control for the Jabiru. =C2 I'm not > sure if that was the one that was talked about on here > previously or not, but they have over 70 hours on their > plane so it has some time on it and also might be worth your > while to check out! =C2 Thanks, Brian > Whittingham > > =C2 > > > > > > > > Windows > Live=84=A2 SkyDrive=84=A2: Store, access, and share your > photos. See how. > > > =C2 =C2 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listhttp://forum s.matronics.comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2 > > > > > > > > > > ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ____________________________________________________________ Get an Unsecured Loan - Fast and Low Cost. Click here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIqYvUoWLkR1KtBxBifVNY APl19cn3HGCOy52g2TLqoDa4yQAJzUk/ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:49 PM PST US From: Hugh Sontag Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Odyssey battery PC 625 I have an Odyssey PC 625 in my airplane (the engine is a Rotax 912). I think they produce very high quality batteries. I installed the battery new in 2005 and it has performed flawlessly ever since. It started my engine without any hesitation after sitting 6 months in an unheated hangar. This kind of battery (sealed lead-acid, AGM) is known for its ability to keep a charge for a long time. I would measure the current directly at the battery (remove the positive lead and insert an ammeter) to determine what load is on the battery when all equipment is supposed to be off. It may be that there is some external reason for the battery's discharge. Best Regards, Hugh Sontag Qdea Technical Support >From: Charles Dewey >To: lightning-list@matronics.com >Subject: Lightning-List: Odyssey battery PC 625 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:20:14 -0700 (PDT) > > >Are people still using the Odyssey battery PC625 in their >Lightnings? Wondering if there is a better battery out there. Ours >doesn't hold a charge, but is a couple years old. Charles > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:03 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM Subject: Lightning-List: Friday OSH report This will be short as I am waiting on friends while the afternoon airshow is in progress. However, I did want to let everyone know that the noon Lightning get together at their booth was a great success. We will have some photos when I get the next newsletter out, but until then just let me say the turnout of people was great. Lots of previous Lightning builders and flyers were there to help answer questions from those interested in the Lightning. I met folks from Canada, Australia and New Zealand (and the US of course) and all seemed very interested in gaining more info on the airplane and the build process. This large turnout is in line with the walk in traffic that they have had at their booth all week, so obviously Pete, Ben and Nick did a great job of choosing a new location for the Jabiru and Lightning booths. As a closing thought, just let me say that if I had a dollar for everyone I heard say this is the best looking light sport airplane here, I would have plenty of cash for my return trip. And if you don't agree, you own our beer fund for the September annual Lightning get together at least $10.00. If you do agree, you can also send $10.00 for the beer fund for the September get together. Send a check to Dana. :-) Blue Skies, Buz **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:11 PM PST US From: Brian Whittingham Subject: RE: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options Jim=2C I thought that looked familiar. I had not seen the autopilot befo re though. That thing is set up like a compact version of what you might f ind on an airliner with separate VNAV and HNAV buttons for quick and easy u se. Again=2C haven't used it=2C but look like some time and thought went i nto it. Thanks=2C Brian From: pequeajim@gmail.com Subject: RE: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options Brian: Their EFIS is a built by MGL and in that form is called the Enigma. It has been around for about 4 years and you are right=2C it is an awesome package for the money. I have the MGL Voyager (next step up)=2C in my Lig htning which is in the Arion booth=2C so if anyone wants=92 to see what it looks l ike in the Lightning panel=2C feel free to stop by. From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Whittingham Sent: Friday=2C July 31=2C 2009 8:23 AM Subject: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options All=2C I'm not trying to get you interested in a new aircraft=2C but there 's a company that comes from the same background as myself called MySky One . What I'd really like to point out is that they trust the Jabiru 3300 for their aircraft and they have a couple of instruments that look pretty good . Take a look at the MSFAS and MSFIC: http://www.mysky.aero/flight-informa tion-center--lsa-mysky-aircraft-msone-FIC1.html Now I can't say that I hav e experience with using this system=2C but it might be worth a look for som e of those who have not decided what to put into your panel yet. They also have developed a carb and mixture control for the Jabiru. I'm not sure if that was the one that was talked about on here previously or not=2C but th ey have over 70 hours on their plane so it has some time on it and also mig ht be worth your while to check out! Thanks=2C Brian Whittingham Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Store=2C access=2C and share your photos. See how. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listhttp://forums.matronics. comhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution _________________________________________________________________ Bing=99 brings you maps=2C menus=2C and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&cre a=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Odyssey battery PC 625 From: kayberg@aol.com One of the aviation magazines has a circuitboard for a de-sulfinator.=C2 - It is about 20 bucks and can be assembled in an evening.=C2- I have been using one on an Odessy batery that would not hold a charge and it is working. They are not a deep cycle battery and can sulfide up with a couple deep cy cles. That is about your only alternitieve to a new batt. Doug Koenigsberg re people still using the Odyssey battery PC625 in their Lightnings? Wonde ring f there is a better battery out there. Ours doesn't hold a charge, but is a ouple years old. Charles -----Original Message----- From: Charles Dewey Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 11:20 am Subject: Lightning-List: Odyssey battery PC 625 Are people still using the Odyssey battery PC625 in their Lightnings? Wond ering f there is a better battery out there. Ours doesn't hold a charge, but is a ouple years old. Charles --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Jim Langley wrote: > From: Jim Langley Subject: RE: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options To: lightning-list@matronics.com Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:37 AM Brian: =C2- Their EFIS is a built by MGL and in that form is called the Enigma.=C2- It has been around for about 4 years and you are right, it is an awesome package for the money.=C2- I have the MGL Voyager (next step up), =C2-in my Lightning which is in the Arion booth, so if anyone wants=99 to see what it looks like in the Lightning panel, feel free to stop by. =C2- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Whittingham Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:23 AM To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options =C2- All,=C2- I'm not trying to get you interested in a new aircraft, but there's a company that comes from the same background as myself called MySky One.=C2- What I'd really like to point out is that they trust the Jabiru 3300 for their aircraft and they have a couple of instruments that look pretty good.=C2- Take a look at the MSFAS and MSFIC: http://www.mysky.aero/flight-information-cen ter--lsa-mysky-aircraft-msone-FIC1.html=C2-=C2-Now can't say that I have experience with using this system, but it might be worth a look for some of those who have not decided what to put into your panel yet. =C2-They also have developed a carb and mixture control for the Jabiru. =C2-I'm not sure if that was the one that was talked about on here previously or not, but they have over 70 hours on their plane so it has some time on it and also might be worth your while to check out! =C2-T hanks, Brian Whittingham =C2- Windows Live=84=A2 SkyDrive=84=A2: Store, access, and share your photos. 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Great to meet everyone & spend time Around the AC. Great show. Headed South. Sent from my iPhone Hollis Babb 256-506-2834 On Jul 31, 2009, at 3:50 PM, N1BZRich@aol.com wrote: > This will be short as I am waiting on friends while the afternoon > airshow is in progress. However, I did want to let everyone know > that the noon Lightning get together at their booth was a great > success. We will have some photos when I get the next newsletter > out, but until then just let me say the turnout of people was > great. Lots of previous Lightning builders and flyers were there to > help answer questions from those interested in the Lightning. I met > folks from Canada, Australia and New Zealand (and the US of course) > and all seemed very interested in gaining more info on the airplane > and the build process. This large turnout is in line with the walk > in traffic that they have had at their booth all week, so obviously > Pete, Ben and Nick did a great job of choosing a new location for > the Jabiru and Lightning booths. As a closing thought, just let me > say that if I had a dollar for everyone I heard say this is the best > looking light sport airplane here, I would have plenty of cash for > my return trip. And if you don't agree, you own our beer fund for > the September annual Lightning get together at least $10.00. If you > do agree, you can also send $10.00 for the beer fund for the > September get together. Send a check to Dana. :-) > Blue Skies, > Buz > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:19 PM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options Check out http://www.mglavionics.co.za I saw the upgrade that they have in their booth for the Odyssey and Voyager, in a word, AWSOME! From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Whittingham Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:37 PM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options Jim, I thought that looked familiar. I had not seen the autopilot before though. That thing is set up like a compact version of what you might find on an airliner with separate VNAV and HNAV buttons for quick and easy use. Again, haven't used it, but look like some time and thought went into it. Thanks, Brian _____ From: pequeajim@gmail.com Subject: RE: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options Brian: Their EFIS is a built by MGL and in that form is called the Enigma. It has been around for about 4 years and you are right, it is an awesome package for the money. I have the MGL Voyager (next step up), in my Lightning which is in the Arion booth, so if anyone wants' to see what it looks like in the Lightning panel, feel free to stop by. From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Whittingham Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:23 AM Subject: Lightning-List: More new EFIS and carb options All, I'm not trying to get you interested in a new aircraft, but there's a company that comes from the same background as myself called MySky One. What I'd really like to point out is that they trust the Jabiru 3300 for their aircraft and they have a couple of instruments that look pretty good. Take a look at the MSFAS and MSFIC: http://www.mysky.aero/flight-information-center--lsa-mysky-aircraft-msone-FI C1.html Now I can't say that I have experience with using this system, but it might be worth a look for some of those who have not decided what to put into your panel yet. They also have developed a carb and mixture control for the Jabiru. I'm not sure if that was the one that was talked about on here previously or not, but they have over 70 hours on their plane so it has some time on it and also might be worth your while to check out! Thanks, Brian Whittingham _____ Windows LiveT SkyDriveT: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution st">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List onics.com ww.matronics.com/contribution _____ BingT brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. 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