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1. 07:48 AM - Lightning Newsletter for August 2009 (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
2. 08:04 AM - Re: Lightning Newsletter for August 2009 (Jim Langley)
3. 10:20 AM - Re: N730AL For sale (GARY PENNINGTON)
4. 10:42 AM - Re: N730AL For sale (Jim Langley)
5. 12:12 PM - Re: more prop test info (Bob Haas)
6. 05:28 PM - Re: more prop test info (N1BZRich@aol.com)
7. 07:10 PM - Lightning Newsletter (Jim Langley)
8. 07:21 PM - Cover Lightning (Jim Langley)
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| Subject: | Lightning Newsletter for August 2009 |
Last evening I send the August Lightning Newsletter, Issue 2-8, to both
Pete and Jim for them to post on the respective web sites, so sometime today
you will probably be able to read / download it. Of course the main
feature is the photo coverage of the Lightning presence at Oshkosh, but you
should find the other sections interesting as well. On my way to Oshkosh I
stopped by Shelbyville and have included the latest info from the guys there.
The other "feature" is from Bill Browns and covers his autopilot
installation and efforts to improve its performance - good stuff. Below are
the
addresses of each web site:
_http://www.flylightning.net/_ (http://www.flylightning.net/)
_http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html_
(http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html)
As always, I appreciate any and all feedback and suggestions. Remember
this is your newsletter and it depends on all of you to keep it informative.
So don't hesitate to send me articles, photos, etc. I have already
started working on the September issue, but certainly need more ammo for it to
be
able to hit the target. And don't hesitate to share it with your fellow
flying buddies and EAA chapters. Make extra copies to take to EAA chapter
meetings or to just leave laying around your local airport for others to find
and read. It is inexpensive advertising for the Lightning and will help
spread the word on this great airplane.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Newsletter for August 2009 |
Thanks Buz again for the hard work. I know that you had a lot going while
at Oshkosh and to put the newsletter together this quickly after getting
home took some real effort, thanks.
I will post it on my site tonight.
Jim!
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM, <N1BZRich@aol.com> wrote:
> Last evening I send the August Lightning Newsletter, Issue 2-8, to both
> Pete and Jim for them to post on the respective web sites, so sometime today
> you will probably be able to read / download it. Of course the main feature
> is the photo coverage of the Lightning presence at Oshkosh, but you should
> find the other sections interesting as well. On my way to Oshkosh I stopped
> by Shelbyville and have included the latest info from the guys there. The
> other "feature" is from Bill Browns and covers his autopilot installation
> and efforts to improve its performance - good stuff. Below are the
> addresses of each web site:
>
> http://www.flylightning.net/
>
> http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html
>
> As always, I appreciate any and all feedback and suggestions. Remember
> this is your newsletter and it depends on all of you to keep it
> informative. So don't hesitate to send me articles, photos, etc. I have
> already started working on the September issue, but certainly need more ammo
> for it to be able to hit the target. And don't hesitate to share it with
> your fellow flying buddies and EAA chapters. Make extra copies to take to
> EAA chapter meetings or to just leave laying around your local airport for
> others to find and read. It is inexpensive advertising for the Lightning
> and will help spread the word on this great airplane.
> Blue Skies,
> Buz
>
>
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>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: N730AL For sale |
Hello Jim
Sorry to hear you have to sell your beautiful bird. I also have mine for
sale. I'm looking for a Piper Archer that is IFR certified.
Good luck to you.
Gary Pennington
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Langley<mailto:pequeajim@gmail.com>
To: lightning-list@matronics.com<mailto:lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:45 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: N730AL For sale
Just a note to let anyone who is interested in knowing that my
Lightning is for sale. The aircraft is listed on Barnstormers and Green
Landings is handling the sale for me.
My reduction in work means that my income has dropped significantly
and I cannot afford to keep the aircraft right now. At some time in the
future I will build another.
Link to barnstormers advertisement:
https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_358078_Fast+Lightning+w+Jabiru+33
00.html<https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_358078_Fast+Lightning+w+J
abiru+3300.html>
Jim!
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| Subject: | Re: N730AL For sale |
Thanks Gary. Tears me up to sell my bird. I was out flying a SportStar
this morning, (LSA, hershey-bar wing), this morning, and while nice, it is
nothing like the thrill of flying a Lightning...
Good luck with your sale as well.
I'll be back...
Jim!
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:19 PM, GARY PENNINGTON <pennington@q.com> wrote:
> Hello Jim
>
> Sorry to hear you have to sell your beautiful bird. I also have mine for
> sale. I'm looking for a Piper Archer that is IFR certified.
>
> Good luck to you.
>
> Gary Pennington
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jim Langley <pequeajim@gmail.com>
> *To:* lightning-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:45 PM
> *Subject:* Lightning-List: N730AL For sale
>
> Just a note to let anyone who is interested in knowing that my Lightning
> is for sale. The aircraft is listed on Barnstormers and Green Landings is
> handling the sale for me.
>
>
> My reduction in work means that my income has dropped significantly and I
> cannot afford to keep the aircraft right now. At some time in the future I
> will build another.
>
>
> Link to barnstormers advertisement:
>
>
> https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_358078_Fast+Lightning+w+Jabiru+3300.html
>
>
> Jim!
>
>
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| Subject: | more prop test info |
Hey Dave what index was the adjustable pitch set at? Bob Haas N330BH
Thanks.
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[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: more prop test info
Buz
I put the 62FK60 on today. Don't know what to think just yet. Testing was
done at 3,000 ft, 85 degrees and indicated only
new prop-----------
RPM Fuel burn Speed mph
2850 8.1 152
2750 6.6 146
2650 5.7 140
WOT 3,000 rpm, static 2560 rpm at WOT the EGT was 1450 degrees
composite ground adjustable (old prop)
2850 6.1 145
2650 5.1 137
WOT 3200 RPM
I reached the 150 mph point but lost 2 gal per hr. Short story long--- what
are you running for jetting and I am thinking this may be an altitude
prop--not used for skud running? Nick or Buz, what jetting is needed?
Thanks for any advise
Dave McC
----- Original Message -----
From: N1BZRich@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:48 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: more prop test info
All,
Some time ago I sent out a report on the results of the prop testing I
have been doing on N31BZ with the Sensenich 62FK60. (remember BZ has the
older solid lifter engine) Those emails listed the true airspeeds vs. RPMs
that I was seeing. As a follow up to that message I have been doing some
additional testing the last several days to come up with some fuel flow
numbers with the new prop. Most of you that have been on the list for a
while know that my cross country technique is to set a fuel flow (not an
rpm) and accept the airspeed and rpm that the fuel flow gives me at the
altitude I am using for the trip. Since I am planning another trip to SYI
early this coming week, I figured I had better get at least some "ball park"
fuel usage numbers before I make this next trip.
On cross country flights I normally cruise at an altitude that does two
things for me - I am looking for lowest headwinds and smooth flight
conditions. If there is a tail wind, I go up high to take advantage of
that, often cruising as high as 14,500 when west bound (yes, I have a small
O2 bottle). Normally, I seem to end up in the altitude band between say 6
to 12 thousand feet, so that is where I have been doing most of the testing
the last few days. Oh, one other thing, the OATs have been running slightly
cooler than a standard day. For example density altitude has been about 300
below indicated altitude.
Below are the results I have seen during recent flights over the last
few days:
-Since I normally set 6 gph I did a lot of those test. As it turns out, 6
gph seems to give me in the neighborhood of 162 to 165 mph true airspeed
(weight makes a difference). I should also note that I tried to do most of
the test when I had the tanks full (except for that burned during climb out)
but with only me and approx 30 pounds in the baggage area (31BZ is probably
around a 1200 lb airplane with that load).
-However, I noticed something interesting (with the prop and set up I am now
using) when I pulled the fuel flow back below 6 gph. It appears that:
5.5 gph gives 155 mph,
5.0 gph = 150,
4.5 gph = 145,
4.0 gph = 140,
and 3.5 gph was right at 135 mph. I saw no reason to go slower than that.
If these numbers prove fairly accurate during actual cross country
flights, that works out to over a 1000 mile range flying at 135 mph tas -
but who wants to go that slow.
I just thought the kind of linear relationship of FF to MPH was
interesting. Of course, the time spend at the various fuel flows was just
long enough to let the mph settle down and things could be different when I
actually make the trip to SYI (probably this Tuesday).
Anyway, as normal, I will provide the data for that flight after I get
there and find the time to figure it all out more accurately.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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| Subject: | Re: more prop test info |
In a message dated 8/6/2009 8:26:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
corky@hbci.com writes:
I put the 62FK60 on today. Don't know what to think just yet. Testing
was done at 3,000 ft, 85 degrees and indicated only
new prop-----------
RPM Fuel burn Speed mph
2850 8.1 152
2750 6.6 146
2650 5.7 140
WOT 3,000 rpm, static 2560 rpm at WOT the EGT was 1450 degrees
composite ground adjustable (old prop)
2850 6.1 145
2650 5.1 137
WOT 3200 RPM
I reached the 150 mph point but lost 2 gal per hr. Short story long---
what are you running for jetting and I am thinking this may be an altitude
prop--not used for skud running? Nick or Buz, what jetting is needed?
Thanks for any advise
Dave McC
Dave,
Finally got a chance to go for a short hop this afternoon delivering a
part to Linda. First flight since I got back from Oshkosh. I tired to
duplicate your flight conditions so flew at 3,000 feet (DA was almost 4500')
and OAT was 83 degrees which was close to your 85 degrees. With the auto
pilot on and 2850 rpm set, my indicated airspeed was 152 to 153 mph and the
true airspeed was 163 to 164 mph. Fuel flow was 5.3 gallons per hour. I
then pushed the power all the way in and WOT resulted in 3250 rpm with an
indicated airspeed of 177 to 178 mph and true airspeed of 188 to 190 mph.
Fuel flow at that high rpm and low altitude was 11.1 gph or so.
As Lynn mentioned be sure to provide some good EGT readings to Nick so
he can recommend jetting for you. Also, comparing speeds is more accurate
using true airspeeds and flying at the same density altitude, but maybe
you don't have that capability. Overall, you are getting great results,
particularly if you have not made the mods that I have. But based on your WOT
of only 3,000 rpm with your new prop, and assuming your have a solid lifter
engine with the valves set good, only getting 3,000 rpm would tend to tell
me you have a draggier airframe for the engine to pull around. What color
is your airplane? You may have a high drag paint scheme and colors.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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| Subject: | Lightning Newsletter |
Ok, the latest Lightning Newsletter is up on my site if you normally view it
from there. Visit the link below ans scroll to the bottom of the page.
http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html
If you would like more information about my Lightning for sale, please visit
the link below.
http://www.jimslightning.com/html/n730al_for_sale.html
Cheers
Jim!
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