---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/01/09: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:40 AM - Re: September Lightning Newsletter (Jim Langley) 2. 05:48 AM - Re: September Lightning Newsletter (N1BZRich@AOL.COM) 3. 05:54 AM - Lightning Reunion (EAFerguson@AOL.COM) 4. 06:13 AM - Re: September Lightning Newsletter (flylightning) 5. 06:14 AM - Re: September Lightning Newsletter (Jim Langley) 6. 06:21 AM - Re: Lightning Reunion (flylightning) 7. 07:42 AM - Re: Lightning Reunion (JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA MATHIAS) 8. 06:56 PM - Re: Lightning Reunion (N1BZRich@aol.com) 9. 11:01 PM - Official Lightning-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle) 10. 11:13 PM - Official Lightning-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:13 AM PST US From: "Jim Langley" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: September Lightning Newsletter Buz: Might be better to give the direct link on my site to get to the newsletters. It is http://www.jimslightning.com/html/newsletters.html They are listed in chronological order. For those of you who want to read a past newsletter, they are all there, plus a description of what is in them Over the cooler weather here, I had planned on making things searchable, still may do that. Jim! From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1BZRich@aol.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:01 PM Subject: Lightning-List: September Lightning Newsletter All, The September Lightning Newsletter, Issue 2-9, is now posted on the Lightning web site as well as Jim Langley's site. To read and/or download the newsletter go to either: http://www.flylightning.net/ or http://www.jimslightning.com/html/home.html This months newsletter features a great travelogue on a trip to Idaho with some super photos by Dick Cleavinger who flies out of Boulder, Colorado. There is also a flight report on the new ASTM-certified LS-1 Lightning. Besides the normal flight report info it includes a short write up on the HACman mixture control leaning system that I found easy to use and effective at saving fuel. Then of course there are all the other items that are normally in each issue including an interesting safety "fix" that Bear sent in. You can also read more about Steve Hacker's father / daughters Lightning building project. As always, any and all suggestions and recommendations are appreciated. Recently it seems to be as hard as pulling teeth to get inputs from you guys, but I am assuming that is because everyone is either taking advantage of the summer flying season or you are in your shop making great progress on your Lighting. One last comment. Every year Nick and Mark and the entire Lightning gang go to great effort to plan, organize and put on a Lightning Fly-In for all of us. And please understand that the event if for everyone that is interested in the Lightning. This is your chance to meet other builders and flyers, to ask questions, see the factory and the kits first hand, and of course to get a demo flight in the Lightning. There are even going to be some new events this year - a speed dash race for Lightnings flyers and several types of creeper races for everyone. So bring your "racing" creeper or just use one that they have there and show everyone just how really fast your are on a creeper. There will also be several informative briefings presented - update on Lightning information, one on Formation flying, and one on how to beat world record Earl's world record. So far, that one is classified above top secret. Time and weather permitting we will even have some in-flight formation training flights. So start planning now to be in Shelbyville, Tennessee, on 25 and 26 September. Blue Skies, Buz _____ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:23 AM PST US From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: September Lightning Newsletter In a message dated 9/1/2009 7:40:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pequeajim@gmail.com writes: For those of you who want to read a past newsletter, they are all there, plus a description of what is in them Over the cooler weather here, I had planned on making things searchable, still may do that. Thanks, Jim, having the past newsletters articles searchable would be a great improvement for the Lightning builders, flyers and those just interested in learning more when they are looking up information that has been published in the past. I know we would all appreciate your efforts. Buz ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:01 AM PST US From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Reunion Some suggestions for events. How about a spot landing contest? That's one where any airplane has an equal chance, unlike speed events where my Light sport is at a disadvantage unless there is a LSA class (hint, hint). As far as beating my world record, I'd like to see one of the Lightnings with lower empty weight go for the C-1a record. As many of you know, I missed this class by 10 lbs and wound up in class C-1b. On the subject of records, there was a round the world flight in a light sport from South Africa. I wondered how they did it, and read the full article. That airplane carried 118 gallons of fuel! With two pilots I have to wonder what SA considers light sport. I was trying to find a route with a max 400 nm leg. These guys flew from LA to Hawaii without inflight refueling. I haven't looked at that route for years, but as I recall its about 2100 nm. Back to the homecoming events. Could we get Joe to do a presentation on flying gliders at Normandy? Did I get that info correct? The only entertainment I have to contribute is a bit on international flying. Is anybody interested in my suggestion for a Caribbean tour? Pete and the crowd have been gracious host for the past gatherings, and I'm sure they will again. But I wonder how we can contribute to help out. I thought about doing a BBQ, but the logistics don't work, I'd miss the other festivities hovering over the grill. I do plan to bring some of the famous Alabama/Tennessee BBQ slaw. WHAT, you never heard of it? Come and learn, bring your wife or girl friend. Linda can bring Joe. Looking forward to a great event. Earl Ferguson N17EF Atlanta (FTY) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:56 AM PST US From: "flylightning" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: September Lightning Newsletter Buz, Great new letter once again, the photos of the flight test of the LS-1 reminds me of the Aim high posters I used to have as a kid, like it a lot. I would like to say that the Lightning fly in is coming up an please plan to attend. Any one flying in please let us know so we can try to get hanger space. Also all ya'll with esquals are more than welcome to attend and we hope you do .See every one in September. nick _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1BZRich@aol.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:01 PM Subject: Lightning-List: September Lightning Newsletter All, The September Lightning Newsletter, Issue 2-9, is now posted on the Lightning web site as well as Jim Langley's site. To read and/or download the newsletter go to either: http://www.flylightning.net/ or http://www.jimslightning.com/html/home.html This months newsletter features a great travelogue on a trip to Idaho with some super photos by Dick Cleavinger who flies out of Boulder, Colorado. There is also a flight report on the new ASTM-certified LS-1 Lightning. Besides the normal flight report info it includes a short write up on the HACman mixture control leaning system that I found easy to use and effective at saving fuel. Then of course there are all the other items that are normally in each issue including an interesting safety "fix" that Bear sent in. You can also read more about Steve Hacker's father / daughters Lightning building project. As always, any and all suggestions and recommendations are appreciated. Recently it seems to be as hard as pulling teeth to get inputs from you guys, but I am assuming that is because everyone is either taking advantage of the summer flying season or you are in your shop making great progress on your Lighting. One last comment. Every year Nick and Mark and the entire Lightning gang go to great effort to plan, organize and put on a Lightning Fly-In for all of us. And please understand that the event if for everyone that is interested in the Lightning. This is your chance to meet other builders and flyers, to ask questions, see the factory and the kits first hand, and of course to get a demo flight in the Lightning. There are even going to be some new events this year - a speed dash race for Lightnings flyers and several types of creeper races for everyone. So bring your "racing" creeper or just use one that they have there and show everyone just how really fast your are on a creeper. There will also be several informative briefings presented - update on Lightning information, one on Formation flying, and one on how to beat world record Earl's world record. So far, that one is classified above top secret. Time and weather permitting we will even have some in-flight formation training flights. So start planning now to be in Shelbyville, Tennessee, on 25 and 26 September. Blue Skies, Buz _____ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:47 AM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: September Lightning Newsletter From: Jim Langley No problem, glad to stay involved with you guys. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:44 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 9/1/2009 7:40:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > pequeajim@gmail.com writes: > > For those of you who want to read a past newsletter, they are all there, > plus a description of what is in them Over the cooler weather here, I had > planned on making things searchable, still may do that. > > Thanks, Jim, having the past newsletters articles searchable would be a > great improvement for the Lightning builders, flyers and those just > interested in learning more when they are looking up information that has > been published in the past. I know we would all appreciate your efforts. > Buz > > ------------------------------ > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:15 AM PST US From: "flylightning" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Lightning Reunion Hmmm? That's 708lbs of fuel, even if they weigh 100lbs a piece that a 412lbs empty bird? Hmmmmm??? Nick _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of EAFerguson@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Reunion Some suggestions for events. How about a spot landing contest? That's one where any airplane has an equal chance, unlike speed events where my Light sport is at a disadvantage unless there is a LSA class (hint, hint). As far as beating my world record, I'd like to see one of the Lightnings with lower empty weight go for the C-1a record. As many of you know, I missed this class by 10 lbs and wound up in class C-1b. On the subject of records, there was a round the world flight in a light sport from South Africa. I wondered how they did it, and read the full article. That airplane carried 118 gallons of fuel! With two pilots I have to wonder what SA considers light sport. I was trying to find a route with a max 400 nm leg. These guys flew from LA to Hawaii without inflight refueling. I haven't looked at that route for years, but as I recall its about 2100 nm. Back to the homecoming events. Could we get Joe to do a presentation on flying gliders at Normandy? Did I get that info correct? The only entertainment I have to contribute is a bit on international flying. Is anybody interested in my suggestion for a Caribbean tour? Pete and the crowd have been gracious host for the past gatherings, and I'm sure they will again. But I wonder how we can contribute to help out. I thought about doing a BBQ, but the logistics don't work, I'd miss the other festivities hovering over the grill. I do plan to bring some of the famous Alabama/Tennessee BBQ slaw. WHAT, you never heard of it? Come and learn, bring your wife or girl friend. Linda can bring Joe. Looking forward to a great event. Earl Ferguson N17EF Atlanta (FTY) _____ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:34 AM PST US From: "JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA MATHIAS" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Reunion Earl, Joe didn't fly into Normandy; his mission was across the Rhine into Germany. He doesn't have a program on it and Joe is a man of few words; however, I am sure he would tell you about it if you ask him. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: EAFerguson@aol.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:53 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Reunion Some suggestions for events. How about a spot landing contest? That's one where any airplane has an equal chance, unlike speed events where my Light sport is at a disadvantage unless there is a LSA class (hint, hint). As far as beating my world record, I'd like to see one of the Lightnings with lower empty weight go for the C-1a record. As many of you know, I missed this class by 10 lbs and wound up in class C-1b. On the subject of records, there was a round the world flight in a light sport from South Africa. I wondered how they did it, and read the full article. That airplane carried 118 gallons of fuel! With two pilots I have to wonder what SA considers light sport. I was trying to find a route with a max 400 nm leg. These guys flew from LA to Hawaii without inflight refueling. I haven't looked at that route for years, but as I recall its about 2100 nm. Back to the homecoming events. Could we get Joe to do a presentation on flying gliders at Normandy? Did I get that info correct? The only entertainment I have to contribute is a bit on international flying. Is anybody interested in my suggestion for a Caribbean tour? Pete and the crowd have been gracious host for the past gatherings, and I'm sure they will again. But I wonder how we can contribute to help out. I thought about doing a BBQ, but the logistics don't work, I'd miss the other festivities hovering over the grill. I do plan to bring some of the famous Alabama/Tennessee BBQ slaw. WHAT, you never heard of it? Come and learn, bring your wife or girl friend. Linda can bring Joe. Looking forward to a great event. Earl Ferguson N17EF Atlanta (FTY) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 08/31/09 05:50:00 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:47 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@aol.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Reunion In a message dated 9/1/2009 8:54:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, EAFerguson@AOL.COM writes: How about a spot landing contest? That's one where any airplane has an equal chance, unlike speed events where my Light sport is at a disadvantage unless there is a LSA class (hint, hint). Hey World Record Earl, Good suggestion about the spot landing contest. We could tie that onto the end of the speed dash after the timing over the finish line has been completed for the out and back. But as you know the real limiting factor on any event like this is man power (I guess I should say people power to be politically correct) so we may not have enough "worker" bees to get everything done. But don't worry about your LSA compliant Lightning not being competitive. The speed dash event will be kind of set up like a sports car rally where "time / speed / distance" will be looked at. So yes, top speed will win one event, but another win will go to the entrant that can best predict their total elapsed time from brake release to time over the finish line. And of course accurate navigation, choosing the best altitude to take advantage of forecast winds, using the best climb speeds, etc. all will have an outcome on the events. Hey, I guess to really make this event complete we could throw in a bomb drop for accuracy and time over target to come up with some other winners. But as I indicated above - people power may be the limiting factor. 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DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. 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