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    Time: 11:47:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lightning-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 09/24/09
    From: Doctor Dave <avn100@aol.com>
    To Arion Staff Forum Members info@flylightning.net nick@flylightning.net info@vwwebdesign.com Congrats on new site. Will provide my first glance edits of new website below. Looks like you have a second chance at this almost =93lost forever=94 opportunity. You must have seen this 51% rule news - planning to get a submission together? Seems that would incredibly simplify the potentially arbitrary individual review of each kit now required and enhance your marke t appeal. FAA may question the legitimacy of your builder assist however. You pays your money, you takes your chances. *======================== ========* *http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/2009-09-18_evaluations.asp* FAA Ends Moratorium on Kit Evaluations ** *September 18, 2009* =97 The FAA today (Friday, September 18), officially ended its temporary suspension of amateur-built aircraft kit evaluations which was in effect since February 2008<http://www.eaa.org/news/2008/2008-02-15_kits.asp>. The action, outlined in FAA Order 8130.35<http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/faa_8130.pdf>, allows kit manufacturers to resume submitting their homebuilt kits for FAA evaluation to determine compliance with the major portion rules governing amateur-built aircraft certification. Compliance means inclusion on the FAA=92s =9351 percent approved list.=94 =93This order defines the policy and procedures for the formation of a National Kit Evaluation Team (NKET) and establishes a standard methodology to evaluate amateur-built aircraft kits,=94 wrote Frank Paskiewicz, manager of the FAA=92s production and airworthiness division, in communicating the resumption of FAA evaluations. The order also describes the selection and orientation of NKET members; the process for requesting an aircraft kit evaluation; the conduct of evaluations; and reporting and records maintenance requirements. In an e-mail communication with EAA, Paskiewicz confirmed that kit manufacturers can once again start to apply for evaluations per instruction s contained in the order <http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/faa_8130.pdf> on page 2.2. *======================== ========* ** *I see no mention on new website of process for customer to specify what percentage of completion an ordered ELSA would be shipped with or the cost ratios involved. Some manufacturers are standardizing at 75 or 90 or even 99% without being honest about the operational restrictions ELSA carries with it versus a fully factory built RTF SLSA. For the manufacturer, ELSA offers a chance to sell discounted =93nearly RTF - 50 hr build instead of 500=94 aircraft while also possibly avoiding most of the product liability burden (=93hey, don=92t come crying to us if the wing delaminated and fell off - he built it himself=94).* ** *EDITS:* you should capitalize both Light and Sport when you use them together.... dozens of thosr gaffes throughout. I am not listing all the items I balked at - prioritizing the most glaring... due to time constraints right now. *www.flylightning.net/index.html* ** *THE NEW STANDARD FOR LOW WING LIGHT SPORT AIRCRAFT* Why restricted to =93Low Wing=94? Is this a sop to your Jabiru pals and th eir =93built in shade=94 cargo models? Speaking of which shouldn=92t =93Made i n the USA=94 be =93Airframe Made in the USA=94 whilst you install 3300=92s? *www.flylightning.net/history.html* ** *market a kit plane designed by* market a kit plane based on the Spanish Esqual as refined by *handling moderately* handling, moderately *development contractors* development, contractors *INC* Inc. *Fiberglass* fiberglass ** *standard Aircraft * standard aircraft *conceived in a hanger *that would be tight quarters for small minds conceived in a hangar *part, flutter * part. Flutter *TAS, and * TAS and *www.flylightning.net/lightning-esp.html* *Lightning Experimental kit* *Lightning Experimental Kit* *require and special* require any special *Matco, control cables from McFarlane Aviation supply, and a canopy formed by one of the Leading companies* Matco, control cables from McFarlane Aviation Supply, and a canopy formed b y one of the leading companies COMMENT: looks odd to specifically list Matco and McF but then not give the name of the canopy benders (you DO on the LSA page). Supplier quality problems and changes or ??? You don=92t list all other parts like tank manufacturers so either mention windshield Inc (not INC) drop that canopy B S and just polish the knobs of Matco and McF. *www.flylightning.net/lightning-lsa.html* *lt by Aircraft welders * by aircraft welders *here, The * here. The *rarely match in * rarely matched in *and impressive 50knt * an impressive 50kt *respectively* DROP THE WORD - POINTLESS. YOU ONLY REF BURN AT 120 HERE. COMMENT: =93not on a perfect day at sea level=94 = lying bullshyte. If it is a nonstandard, high density altitude day at sea level you will get less climb performance I(unless you are not telling me about a turbosupercharger hidde n in there).. I hope the identical and nearly identical =93images=94 are jus t placeholders for subsequent actually revealing photos not yet available. Otherwise cut that gallery to a half dozen altogether. *www.flylightning.net/design.html* ** *The** Lighning **Design has also as of April 2009 **past with out** issue* The Lightning Design has also (as of April 2009) passed without issue ** *s**port mode**l, th**is means* Sport model. This means *Need we say more...?* COMMENT: Yes. Show both gross weight, sea level standard climb rates. ALSO claiming Arion has not changed the design for the SLSA is a bullshyte lie. You have substantially changed the wing (airfoil shape and length) and stall speed. oe brakes, after oe brakes. After COMMENT: =93Takeoff is simple=94 ? Would be simpler (but construction mor e challenging and empty weight higher) with nosewheel steering. Would also shorten takeoff roll. Ideal solution to both and added utility? Get to work on a goddamned conventional gear (taildragger) option! OK - some dumbasses with numb feet can=92t master taildragger ground ops but for the rest of us (especially those living on White Trash Airpark lumpy grass strips or flying backcountry), this aircraft is begging for it. *ready land* ready to land *class;* class. industries industry=92s *www.flylightning.net/company-news.html* *include a experi* include an experi *Arion Aircraft Has new offices. Nick and Mark have moved up stairs to plus h pent house suites over looking the Hanger, come to the September fly-in to get a tour.* Arion Aircraft has new offices. Nick and Mark have moved upstairs to plush penthouse suites overlooking the hangar. Come to the October 10 fly-in to get a tour. *www.flylightning.net/faq.html* *Lightning's are Flying?* *At last count there are over 45 Lightings flying world wide with over 4,00 0 hours on the fleet.* Lightnings are Flying? At last count there are over 45 Lightnings flying world wide with over 4,00 0 hours on the fleet. COMMENT: Fleet hours is actually a critical number for Arion to continue updating. The lying sacks of shyte Erwin and his crew at now bankrupt and gone CZAW (reborn under new Sportcruiser owners) refused to support their hundred english kit builders and routinely lied about production and certification dates they knew they were sabotaging back in Czechland. The english authorities rely heavily on accumulated fleet experience elsewhere before approving for english kit builders. The owners - some already waiting years since deposits and promised delivery - had to take an international poll themselves to provide this number and get certified. Arion may need it as part of your belated application for 51% status - the higher the better as it is an indicator of success and reliability. Owners should update the factory every four months until the 51% is approved and biennially after. The next FAQ =93does meet=94 is lying bullshyte. Substi tute =93should meet.=94 You do NOT meet the 51% rule until the FAA says you do. This is what got the industry in trouble and the rule frozen in the first place so learn your lesson. More than wishful thinking is involved especially wit h the increasing number of manufactured subcomponents (ex: bench tested plug and play avionics-equipped instrument panels) and prebuilt complex layups and castings where builder vs manufacturer participation should be more a question of personal talent and sophistication than credit card limit or hours involved in fabrication and assembly. EAA has whored out its principles to the principals of =93homebuilt=94 turboprop retract single ki t suppliers. Speaking of whoring ($30,000 to dodge the rule in your case suggests that for a kit a builder is supposed to finish by himself in 500 hours, he is buying 500 hours of professional labor at $60/hr), MOST fatca t builder assist centers represent *prima facie* violations of the 51% rule and desperately need to be reined in and brought under control in the final rule and enforcement of it. Anything goes in ELSA however! *uilding an completing* uilding and completing *you, a * you. A OR you: a *Where Can* Where can *e Lighting Typically weigh* e Lightning typically weigh ** *e Gross w* e gross w ** *What Are* What are *engine cost $16,500. After that it is what ever p* engine costs $16,500. After that it is whatever p *www.flylightning.net/build-assist.html* COMMENT: There are plenty of errors but proof it yourselves. I love the airplane and will buy the first taildragger 96% ELSA, but I want nothing to do with build assist center=92s blatant perversion of the intent of the Experimental Rule. *www.flylightning.net/service-bulletins.html* *There are no service bulletins at this time.* WTF? Do you mean the service bulletin page is under construction OR are you pretending there are no service bulletins on the aircraft since introduction? Hell, there are dozens of recurring squawks and recommended fixes just in this antiquated Matronics forum that should each be service bulletins by now. Needs urgent attention. CZAW long denied they had any issues that should have been service bulletin s but leaked documents showed numerous design and production flaws brought to their attention by the US importer. New owners Czech Sport Aircraft offer a =93service directive=94 page with some entries not airframe flaws but probl ems with that hangar queen flying toilet Rotax 912 =93power=94plant. www.czechsportaircraft.com/technical-publications/




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