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1. 11:51 AM - Re: Lightning and the 51% rule (Brian Proett)
2. 12:14 PM - Rudder cable to Rudder attach. (flylightning)
3. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: Lightning and the 51% rule (Charles Gallagher)
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Subject: | Lightning and the 51% rule |
Good answer, also liked the interpretation on the new rulings. This
helps
allay my fears and concerns. Keep us informed as things progress.
Thanks
This might be good newsletter material.
Brian P.
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
flylightning
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:19 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Lightning and the 51% rule
Marvin,
I believe we will have to look at what we do with the builders assist a
little closer. We run an assist program here in TN, not a build it for
you
so we have always work along with the intent and spirit of the 51% rule.
However now we will have to look at each individual thing we may help
with
or do that may cause a problem with the new rule. It is interesting
though
when you look at how the points are spread out or awarded to with a
task. 1
point for each task. If that task already covered an Item where the MFG
was
awarded =BD a point and the builder the other half, well a build assist
would
than be looking at what part of the =BD a point the builder got would be
considered assistance. So may be if we showed them how to set up the
holes
and measure the part and than the builder drilled it and assembled the
part,
we might get 1 or 2 tenths of the builders =BD point and the builder
would get
3-4 tenths instead of the whole 5 tenths of a point. This would mean a
swing
of 0.2% for the MFG. When considering that there is roughly 10% left
that
Arion Aircraft could do to the kit and still have the kit meet the rule
than
there is a lot that a build assist center could provide and not cause an
eligibility problem for the builder. This may be different if the center
drilled and cut all the parts and all the builder did was come and bolt
something together, or the kit already was very marginal in the %
required,
but in the case of the Lightning kit it appears that when using the
system
and guidelines in the AC that this should remain a viable option for the
Lightning kit and someone looking to get a bit of help building there
plane.
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft, LLC
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
marvinlnaz@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning and the 51% rule
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Subject: | Rudder cable to Rudder attach. |
To group,
A few months back, maybe several now, there was some discussion about the
geometry of the rudder cable to the rudder attach u bracket. I know that the
group had come up with a good solution but here is another easy off the
shelf solution. Dave up in New York suggested it and this should work very
well. Replace you U bracket with a male rod-end. The hole has a 10-32 plate
in the rudder, so a standard 10-32 male rod end will work great. Use a
washer and jam nut under the rod-end. The rod end will end up putting the
pivot slightly farther forward than the u bracket. It may be necessary to
re-adjust your cables, and in extreme cases shorten the threaded portion of
the cable slightly to fit properly into the turn-buckle. If you don't have
an issue than don't worry about it, if you do this can be a very good
solution.
Nick
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Subject: | Re: Lightning and the 51% rule |
Bill,your comments and assessments of Nick and team are right on target. Pe
te and Nick obviously love what they are doing and it manifest itself throu
gh out the organization.The product continues to be perfected with each bui
ld which illustrates Arion's desire for continuous improvement. Who says in
novation and excellence is dead in the USA. All the best,Regards,Charles
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Tue, 10/13/09, Bill Strahan <bill@gdsx.com> wrote:
From: Bill Strahan <bill@gdsx.com>
Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Lightning and the 51% rule
One of my favorite aspects of ALL of my dealings with Arion has been the fa
ntastic combination of a high degree of professionalism and a fun-hearted a
pproach to what they do.
I feel this is an unbeatable quality in a company, and one which I have str
ived to create in any organization I have been part of.-
With recent troll activity in particular it would have been quite easy to h
ave formulated a response that was further from these two ideals than I kno
w Nick and company strive for.
I've known many seasoned CEOs with multiple degrees to their name that don'
t handle themselves with the same degree of professionalism that Nick exhib
its on a regular basis both in this forum and in my dealings with him direc
tly.-
If I had not already built a Lightning, this would weigh heavily in my deci
sion to do so.- I continue to be impressed.
Bill
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