Lightning-List Digest Archive

Thu 10/29/09


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:07 AM - Lightning Newsletter for November 2009 (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
     2. 07:42 AM - Engine break-in (Marvin Williams)
     3. 07:54 AM - Re: Engine break-in (Pete Krotje)
     4. 08:38 AM - Re: Engine break-in (flylightning)
     5. 12:52 PM - Re: Engine break-in (Marvin Williams)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:07:29 AM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
    Subject: Lightning Newsletter for November 2009
    All, The November Lightning Newsletter (Issue 2-11) is now posted on both the Lightning web site and Jim Langley's site. Go to either: _www.flylightning.net_ (http://www.flylightning.net/) . or _http://www.jimslightning.com/_ (http://www.jimslightning.com/) This month's newsletter covers the recent Lightning Homecoming and Fly-In, as well as the latest news from the factory, dealers, and builders and flyers. In the factory section is a photo of the newest Lightning employee, Angi Skinner. Call the factory and tell her hello. Also, you will see the new Lightning T shirt (modeled by Dana) that you can order. They may even have polo shirts with the new Arion Lightning logo if enough people are interested. For either shirt, call or email Mark. Once again, Pete has an engine clinic article (Jabiru Lubrication), and the safety article has to do with winter flying and the cautions about icing conditions. In the Tech Tips section, Tex shares some more tips that he has come up with (maybe I should call it Tex Tips). Finally, I have a request. I need some more photos for future "Lightnings of the month" consideration. So if your jet has not been a past Lightning of the month, send me a photo of your airplane. Blue Skies, Buz


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    Time: 07:42:06 AM PST US
    From: Marvin Williams <marvinlnaz@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Engine break-in
    Pete: Would a 3300 get the same quality break-in in a LSA Lightning as it would in a standard Lightning? I ask because of the different prop pitch, thus different engine loading in the two different configurations. It seems to me that the engine loading of a LSA wouldn't be as great as with the standard Lightning. I remember that the best way to break in the 3300 is to do several touch and goes resulting in full power, then reduced power repeatedly. Perhaps the lighter loading of the LSA engine could be compensated by a longer break-in period? Just a thought. Regards, Marvin


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    Time: 07:54:42 AM PST US
    From: "Pete Krotje" <pete@flylightning.net>
    Subject: Engine break-in
    Marvin, The rpms and prop loading on the Lightning LS-1 more closely match the expected RPMs of Jabiru LSA aircraft. I would expect break in to be very similar. The Lightning EXP when propped for speed puts more load on the engine but I don't know if that really affects break in. The only times we've seen problems with inadequate break in is when owners try to baby their engines and do not run full throttle to climb out and cruise at a reduced throttle setting of 2300 rpm. Pete Krotje Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC 931-680-2800 www.usjabiru.com From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marvin Williams Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Engine break-in Pete: Would a 3300 get the same quality break-in in a LSA Lightning as it would in a standard Lightning? I ask because of the different prop pitch, thus different engine loading in the two different configurations. It seems to me that the engine loading of a LSA wouldn't be as great as with the standard Lightning. I remember that the best way to break in the 3300 is to do several touch and goes resulting in full power, then reduced power repeatedly. Perhaps the lighter loading of the LSA engine could be compensated by a longer break-in period? Just a thought. Regards, Marvin


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    Time: 08:38:01 AM PST US
    From: "flylightning" <info@flylightning.net>
    Subject: Engine break-in
    Marvin, As Pete said the LS-1 would have very similar prop loading to the Jabiru J series aircraft. I would think that if the engine is propped to run near 3300RPM at WOT than the expected prop load at 2850 say would be the same regardless of airframe prop combo, than again I think prop load is somewhat of a voodoo art any ways. Nick _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marvin Williams Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Engine break-in Pete: Would a 3300 get the same quality break-in in a LSA Lightning as it would in a standard Lightning? I ask because of the different prop pitch, thus different engine loading in the two different configurations. It seems to me that the engine loading of a LSA wouldn't be as great as with the standard Lightning. I remember that the best way to break in the 3300 is to do several touch and goes resulting in full power, then reduced power repeatedly. Perhaps the lighter loading of the LSA engine could be compensated by a longer break-in period? Just a thought. Regards, Marvin


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    Time: 12:52:53 PM PST US
    From: Marvin Williams <marvinlnaz@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine break-in
    Thanks Pete and Nick, I am of the same opinion as you Nick :-) Marvin ________________________________ From: flylightning <info@flylightning.net> Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 8:37:53 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Engine break-in Marvin, As Pete said the LS-1 would have very similar prop loading to the Jabiru J series aircraft. I would think that if the engine is propped to run near 3300RPM at WOT than the expected prop load at 2850 say would be the same regardless of airframe prop combo, than again I think prop load is somewhat of a voodoo art any ways. Nick ________________________________ From:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marvin Williams Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Engine break-in Pete: Would a 3300 get the same quality break-in in a LSA Lightning as it would in a standard Lightning? I ask because of the different prop pitch, thus different engine loading in the two different configurations. It seems to me that the engine loading of a LSA wouldn't be as great as with the standard Lightning. I remember that the best way to break in the 3300 is to do several touch and goes resulting in full power, then reduced power repeatedly. Perhaps the lighter loading of the LSA engine could be compensated by a longer break-in period? Just a thought. Regards, Marvin http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution




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