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0. 12:16 AM - What's My Contribution Used For? (Matt Dralle)
1. 03:49 AM - Re: New kid on the blog (Gerd + Uli Nowack)
2. 05:52 AM - Re: New kid on the blog (James, Clive R)
3. 07:21 AM - Re: New kid on the blog (Gerd + Uli Nowack)
4. 10:18 AM - Slight ringing at low RPM when taxiing (Bill Strahan)
5. 10:23 AM - Re: Uneven EGTs at full throttle (Bill Strahan)
6. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: Uneven EGTs at full throttle (flylightning)
7. 03:54 PM - uneven EGT's (Tex Mantell)
8. 05:22 PM - Re: uneven EGT's (JOSEPH MATHIAS LINDA MATHIAS)
9. 08:53 PM - Re: Slight ringing at low RPM when taxiing (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
10. 10:16 PM - Re: Slight ringing at low RPM when taxiing (James, Clive R)
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Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
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Subject: | Re: New kid on the blog |
Hi Bear,
thank you for the friendly welcome!
I just finished the first cutouts from chapter 1/ fuselage prep. and
while looking forward to the building I some how wish, I`d already be
flying like you!
Gerd
> Welcome to the group. I'm sure you'll love the building of your
> Lightning. My kit was No. 74. I just finished my 1st annual
> condition inspection...Seems hard to believe it's already been a
> year. alot of fun flying it.
>
> Good luck and keep us posted...
> N82PB
>
> "Bear"
> Clearwater, Florida.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerd + Uli Nowack <NowackLinden@gmx.de>
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:42 am
> Subject: Lightning-List: New kid on the blog
>
> <NowackLinden@gmx.de <mailto:NowackLinden@gmx.de>>
>
> Another Lightning took to the skies on wednesday 11, taking off at
> Chicago O`Hare airport to fly nonstop all the way to Frankfurt Rhein
> Main A/P.
> Not on its own wings, though, but in a crate aboard a MD11 Freighter
> of Lufthansa Cargo. It arrived safely , sits now in front of my garage
> in Linden near Giessen and waits to be assembled in the spare time I
> can find in the months( or years) to come.
> My name is Gerd (pronounced Garret) Nowack , age 54 and I have been an
> active pilot, private and professional, since 1976.
> So here are my greetings from Germany as a new member of the Lightning
> list!
>
> Gerd
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Subject: | New kid on the blog |
It's great to see the Lightning has arrived in Europe Gerd. I do wonder
if it's time for a few more LSA type aircraft to come the other way (US
to Europe)
The Europeans and producing a lot of different types in the class and
the good thing is from what I've seen there is no speed restriction.
What we do need over here is a harmonised LSA type category but the EASA
(European CAA) are making a right pigs breakfast of everything they get
involved with so for now it's just countries with 'experimental'
available that can build planes like the lightning.
Regards, Clive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerd +
Uli Nowack
Sent: 18 November 2009 11:48
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: New kid on the blog
Hi Bear,
thank you for the friendly welcome!
I just finished the first cutouts from chapter 1/ fuselage prep. and
while looking forward to the building I some how wish, I`d already be
flying like you!
Gerd
Welcome to the group. I'm sure you'll love the building of your
Lightning. My kit was No. 74. I just finished my 1st annual condition
inspection...Seems hard to believe it's already been a year. alot of
fun flying it.
Good luck and keep us posted...
N82PB
"Bear"
Clearwater, Florida.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerd + Uli Nowack <NowackLinden@gmx.de>
<mailto:NowackLinden@gmx.de>
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:42 am
Subject: Lightning-List: New kid on the blog
<NowackLinden@gmx.de>
Another Lightning took to the skies on wednesday 11, taking off
at Chicago O`Hare airport to fly nonstop all the way to Frankfurt Rhein
Main A/P.
Not on its own wings, though, but in a crate aboard a MD11
Freighter of Lufthansa Cargo. It arrived safely , sits now in front of
my garage in Linden near Giessen and waits to be assembled in the spare
time I can find in the months( or years) to come.
My name is Gerd (pronounced Garret) Nowack , age 54 and I have
been an active pilot, private and professional, since 1976.
So here are my greetings from Germany as a new member of the
Lightning list!
Gerd
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Subject: | Re: New kid on the blog |
Hi James
Yes, the Lightning has made it to Europe, so after the initial
Evaluation by the OUV(the german EAA) for my project is completed (
which should be thae case within the next few days. I hope)
Aircraft builders from other european countries can make use of this for
their certification process.
I`ve given up waiting for a European LSA solution and decided to go
ahead now, since I have a PPL and a medical .
No speed limit for my Lightning!
Gerd
>
> It's great to see the Lightning has arrived in Europe Gerd. I do wonder
> if it's time for a few more LSA type aircraft to come the other way (US
> to Europe)
> The Europeans and producing a lot of different types in the class and
> the good thing is from what I've seen there is no speed restriction.
> What we do need over here is a harmonised LSA type category but the EASA
> (European CAA) are making a right pigs breakfast of everything they get
> involved with so for now it's just countries with 'experimental'
> available that can build planes like the lightning.
>
> Regards, Clive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerd +
> Uli Nowack
> Sent: 18 November 2009 11:48
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: New kid on the blog
>
> Hi Bear,
>
> thank you for the friendly welcome!
> I just finished the first cutouts from chapter 1/ fuselage prep. and
> while looking forward to the building I some how wish, I`d already be
> flying like you!
>
> Gerd
>
>
>
> Welcome to the group. I'm sure you'll love the building of your
> Lightning. My kit was No. 74. I just finished my 1st annual condition
> inspection...Seems hard to believe it's already been a year. alot of
> fun flying it.
>
> Good luck and keep us posted...
> N82PB
>
> "Bear"
> Clearwater, Florida.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gerd + Uli Nowack <NowackLinden@gmx.de>
> <mailto:NowackLinden@gmx.de>
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 5:42 am
> Subject: Lightning-List: New kid on the blog
>
>
> <NowackLinden@gmx.de>
>
> Another Lightning took to the skies on wednesday 11, taking off
> at Chicago O`Hare airport to fly nonstop all the way to Frankfurt Rhein
> Main A/P.
> Not on its own wings, though, but in a crate aboard a MD11
> Freighter of Lufthansa Cargo. It arrived safely , sits now in front of
> my garage in Linden near Giessen and waits to be assembled in the spare
> time I can find in the months( or years) to come.
> My name is Gerd (pronounced Garret) Nowack , age 54 and I have
> been an active pilot, private and professional, since 1976.
> So here are my greetings from Germany as a new member of the
> Lightning list!
>
> Gerd
>
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Subject: | Slight ringing at low RPM when taxiing |
I hear the very slightest ringing sound when taxiing. It does not occur at idle
RPM, and can only be heard for a brief moment as the RPMs come up from idle
to sufficient RPM to start to taxi.
It is very brief, and very quiet, but it's there. Just the tiniest ringing sound.
And it seems to change in frequency with the engine during the short time
it can be heard.
I don't hear anything of the sort on takeoff or in flight.
Any ideas?
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Subject: | Re: Uneven EGTs at full throttle |
Well, after experimenting quite a bit and flying a couple of hours in different
configurations, here's my latest conclusion on my uneven fuel distribution:
I've ordered a Rotec TBI. :)
My flight with just the radiator hoes was awful.
After some more research, I tried modifying it with an .025 aluminum insert along
the 90 degree bend to stop any rotation and to help it around the corner.
That produced results better than the original SCAT tube but still very uneven.
Then I inserted another short piece of aluminum at 90 degrees to the first to hopefully
kill any rotation and get everything lined up before the carb.
Results: Even better, slightly, but still not acceptable.
I have essentially tried 4 different tube configurations to get the air from the
filter box to the carb, and while I have produced varied results, I have not
addressed the original problem to my satisfaction.
I spoke with the tech guy at Rotec, who said they had experienced similar problems
with the Bing, and while it was a great carb it was very sensitive to slight
imbalances and swirl in the flow. And he assured me their TBI was much less
sensitive to those issues.
I'll post under a new thread when I receive and install the Rotec unit. Fingers
are crossed.
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Subject: | Re: Uneven EGTs at full throttle |
Bill,
Sounds like a good tech article on the TBI for the news letter too. I have
drilled 2 more holes in the static tube, the first 1" back from the original
on the opposite side and another 2" rear of the original on the same side.
My TAs and Avg ground speed are now right on. I think Tex was on to
something and the change to your static tube seems to be the same adjustment
N327AL needed. I will try on one of our other Lightnings as this may have to
be added to the build manual.
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Strahan
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:24 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Uneven EGTs at full throttle
Well, after experimenting quite a bit and flying a couple of hours in
different configurations, here's my latest conclusion on my uneven fuel
distribution: I've ordered a Rotec TBI. :)
My flight with just the radiator hoes was awful.
After some more research, I tried modifying it with an .025 aluminum insert
along the 90 degree bend to stop any rotation and to help it around the
corner. That produced results better than the original SCAT tube but still
very uneven.
Then I inserted another short piece of aluminum at 90 degrees to the first
to hopefully kill any rotation and get everything lined up before the carb.
Results: Even better, slightly, but still not acceptable.
I have essentially tried 4 different tube configurations to get the air from
the filter box to the carb, and while I have produced varied results, I have
not addressed the original problem to my satisfaction.
I spoke with the tech guy at Rotec, who said they had experienced similar
problems with the Bing, and while it was a great carb it was very sensitive
to slight imbalances and swirl in the flow. And he assured me their TBI was
much less sensitive to those issues.
I'll post under a new thread when I receive and install the Rotec unit.
Fingers are crossed.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=273561#273561
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Nick, I also had a uneven egt on number one (1) . I rotated the carb
about three degrees and problem gone. I use the normal scat tub between
the air box and carb. All EGT's are now within 45 degrees. Tex
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Subject: | Re: uneven EGT's |
Tex,
You were lucky; rotating the carb made very little difference on my
EGTs.
Linda
----- Original Message -----
From: Tex Mantell
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: uneven EGT's
Nick, I also had a uneven egt on number one (1) . I rotated the carb
about three degrees and problem gone. I use the normal scat tub between
the air box and carb. All EGT's are now within 45 degrees. Tex
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Subject: | Re: Slight ringing at low RPM when taxiing |
Bill,
Unless you have the "door bell" mod, I suspect you have something
vibrating. Check anywhere you have air movement under the cowling for
something loose that could vibrate. That is assuming the sound is coming from
under the cowl. Maybe the first question should be where does it sound like it
is coming from.
As to your Bing carb issue, the fixes you have tried (smooth radiator
hose and slightly rotating the carb) has fixed the other airplanes I have
heard having the uneven EGT issues (Lightnings and Zodiacs) so I am thinking
it is something specific to your carb or intake manifold. Have you
checked to make sure you don't have some sort of induction leak? It wouldn't
take much of an air leak to cause some major issues with fuel distribution.
But if you do try the Rotec TBI, we do need a future article in the
newsletter like Nick mentioned. Several folks have tried them with the
Jabiru engine, but I am not aware of any on 3300s and certainly none on a
Lightning yet. I talked to Nick, Pete, and Ben about testing one while I was
out
there in October and they seemed to be open to Ben trying one out when he
found the time. I am guessing he has not found any free time recently. So
it would be good to hear your results when you get that done. Since the
TBI had a mixture, you could pull off your HACman and "give" it to me. What
a great idea.
Blue Skies,
Buz
In a message dated 11/18/2009 1:19:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bill@gdsx.com writes:
--> Lightning-List message posted by: "Bill Strahan" <bill@gdsx.com>
I hear the very slightest ringing sound when taxiing. It does not occur
at idle RPM, and can only be heard for a brief moment as the RPMs come up
from idle to sufficient RPM to start to taxi.
It is very brief, and very quiet, but it's there. Just the tiniest
ringing sound. And it seems to change in frequency with the engine during the
short time it can be heard.
I don't hear anything of the sort on takeoff or in flight.
Any ideas?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=273559#273559
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Subject: | Slight ringing at low RPM when taxiing |
The exhaust springs can resonate and will actually snap, I always put a
loop of locking wire through them, partly to stop them dropping on
anyone's head if they snap and partly to stop the vibration that makes
them snap. Might be a singing spring?
Regards, Clive
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
N1BZRich@aol.com
Sent: 19 November 2009 04:48
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Slight ringing at low RPM when taxiing
Bill,
Unless you have the "door bell" mod, I suspect you have something
vibrating. Check anywhere you have air movement under the cowling for
something loose that could vibrate. That is assuming the sound is
coming from under the cowl. Maybe the first question should be where
does it sound like it is coming from.
As to your Bing carb issue, the fixes you have tried (smooth
radiator hose and slightly rotating the carb) has fixed the other
airplanes I have heard having the uneven EGT issues (Lightnings and
Zodiacs) so I am thinking it is something specific to your carb or
intake manifold. Have you checked to make sure you don't have some sort
of induction leak? It wouldn't take much of an air leak to cause some
major issues with fuel distribution.
But if you do try the Rotec TBI, we do need a future article in the
newsletter like Nick mentioned. Several folks have tried them with the
Jabiru engine, but I am not aware of any on 3300s and certainly none on
a Lightning yet. I talked to Nick, Pete, and Ben about testing one
while I was out there in October and they seemed to be open to Ben
trying one out when he found the time. I am guessing he has not found
any free time recently. So it would be good to hear your results when
you get that done. Since the TBI had a mixture, you could pull off your
HACman and "give" it to me. What a great idea.
Blue Skies,
Buz
In a message dated 11/18/2009 1:19:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bill@gdsx.com writes:
<bill@gdsx.com>
I hear the very slightest ringing sound when taxiing. It does
not occur at idle RPM, and can only be heard for a brief moment as the
RPMs come up from idle to sufficient RPM to start to taxi.
It is very brief, and very quiet, but it's there. Just the
tiniest ringing sound. And it seems to change in frequency with the
engine during the short time it can be heard.
I don't hear anything of the sort on takeoff or in flight.
Any ideas?
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