---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/24/10: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:43 AM - Re: Oil dipstick door installation on Lightning cowls (James, Clive R) 2. 09:35 PM - Re: Oil dipstick door installation on Lightning cowls (Steven Sundquist) 3. 09:38 PM - Re: Oil dipstick door installation on Lightning cowls (selwyn) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:35 AM PST US Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Oil dipstick door installation on Lightning cowls From: "James, Clive R" Thanks Steve, how did you get it flush? I've been playing around with some bent metal to set the hinge back and move the pivot point away from the door. So door can site flat on the rebate. If I can't get there wit that I'll go your way, Cheers, Clive -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Sundquist Sent: 22 January 2010 18:33 Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Oil dipstick door installation on Lightning cowls Clive, I had the same question to Lightning headquarters in Tennessee. They said they use some hinge and rivets to attach the door. I didn't care for trying to hide the rivets on the exterior of the cowl so I bonded the hinge with Aeropoxy to both the door and the cowl. It hasn't stood the test of engine and flight operations yet, but I don't see why it won't work. Steve Sundquist Kit #48 On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:09 AM, James, Clive R wrote: I can't find any instructions one the owners list (inside with something else?) and don't think I have any hardware for the dipstick flap though I have found a bit of piano hinge that maybe Jab or Esqual or maybe even Lightning that came will my new cowls (LS for my Esqual). I have some Jabiru bits and will have a play with them. I didn't fit the Jab one on my SP as the cowling comes off so quick. The Esqual was the same but as the Lightning has some many screws I won't be taking the top off off at every pre-flight which I imagine is the standard approach. Can someone tell me what the Lightning installation is like? Thanks, Clive " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:15 PM PST US From: "Steven Sundquist" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Oil dipstick door installation on Lightning cowls Clive, I hope these pictures help. I cut the joggle completely away on the hinge side and made a notch for the hinge to fit in. Also, per Mark's suggestion, I stiffened the door and the area opposite the hinge, between the camlocs with some angle. He said the cowl tends to warp there due to the heat of the engine. He sent me a picture, but it is on my work computer. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Clive R Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:43 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Oil dipstick door installation on Lightning cowls Thanks Steve, how did you get it flush? I've been playing around with some bent metal to set the hinge back and move the pivot point away from the door. So door can site flat on the rebate. If I can't get there wit that I'll go your way, Cheers, Clive -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Sundquist Sent: 22 January 2010 18:33 Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Oil dipstick door installation on Lightning cowls Clive, I had the same question to Lightning headquarters in Tennessee. They said they use some hinge and rivets to attach the door. I didn't care for trying to hide the rivets on the exterior of the cowl so I bonded the hinge with Aeropoxy to both the door and the cowl. It hasn't stood the test of engine and flight operations yet, but I don't see why it won't work. Steve Sundquist Kit #48 On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:09 AM, James, Clive R wrote: I can't find any instructions one the owners list (inside with something else?) and don't think I have any hardware for the dipstick flap though I have found a bit of piano hinge that maybe Jab or Esqual or maybe even Lightning that came will my new cowls (LS for my Esqual). I have some Jabiru bits and will have a play with them. I didn't fit the Jab one on my SP as the cowling comes off so quick. The Esqual was the same but as the Lightning has some many screws I won't be taking the top off off at every pre-flight which I imagine is the standard approach. Can someone tell me what the Lightning installation is like? Thanks, Clive " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:15 PM PST US Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Oil dipstick door installation on Lightning cowls From: "selwyn" Hi guys, I'm thinking about the same thing at the moment and a couple of problems are exercising my imagination. First is the warping that happens to Jabiru oil doors and other thin glass covers, particularly when exposed to heat over time. Second is, as you have noticed, the thickness of the door plus simple piano hinge is greater than the depth of the rebate in the cowl so the thing won't sit flat even before it warps. Jabiru uses a hinge set on the inner surface of the cowl and curved piece of metal or glass (depending on the model) to attach to the door and provide clearance for it to open. A similar principle to the Lightning canopy hinges. I have yet to drill the holes but my current solution is to throw the hinge away and use four camlocs, one at each corner, to hold the door in place and help to keep it flush with the cowl. Some sort of tether to stop the hatch blowing away when removed would complete the job. Any thoughts? -------- Cheers, Selwyn Kit 66 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283323#283323 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message lightning-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Lightning-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/lightning-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/lightning-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.