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Sat 02/13/10


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 06:06 AM - Re: Oil Thermostat (Dave)
     2. 07:46 AM - Re: Winter Storms in the Mid-Atlantic (Kayberg@AOL.COM)
     3. 01:43 PM - Re: Winter Storms in the Mid-Atlantic (N1BZRich@aol.com)
     4. 05:05 PM - Re: Oil Thermostat (ThermoStasis)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:06:52 AM PST US
    From: "Dave" <corky@hbci.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil Thermostat
    I simply put an a plate in front of my cylinders to block some intake air. It's more functional than cosmetic, on mine I have no individual air diverters directing air to cylinders, they all run fairly even temps year around Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 7:15 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Oil Thermostat > <clive.james@uk.bp.com> > > Hi Dave, How do you block the cylinder head flow off? > My 2200 was a tad cold last week but I was worried if I taped up the holes > in the front of the cowling the tape might come off and block something > and I wouldn't know. > I only have the one sensor on my old Jab SP's engine. I did think about > messing with the cooling ducts. > Regards, Clive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave > Sent: 12 February 2010 12:53 > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Oil Thermostat > > > I live in Minnesota, yesterday went on a 300 nm jont while 15 degrees > below, Coldest cylinder was 170, hottest was 220, oil was constant 190. > Every winter when 20 and colder I cover oil cooler inlet with plate having > 5 -3/4 inch holes in it letting some air in. Cylinders I also block 25% of > inlet off, been doing this for 5 years, works for me > Dave - Esqual > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "yhol" <playgoldg@hotmail.com> > To: <lightning-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:28 PM > Subject: Lightning-List: Oil Thermostat > > >> >> I am in Northern Canada and I am looking at ways to keep the engine >> warmer and I am considering an oil thermostat. >> >> I could put something like the one in section 4 here >> http://www.rotaxservice.com/rotax_engines/rotax_914UL.htm >> >> But I found one I like better, if just for the fact it is advertised >> for both Rotax and Jabiru engines. It is sold in Australia by >> mcoates@xair.com.au . They claim it is made in USA so I wonder where I >> can buy one over here. >> >> I d like to hear your comments and suggestions. >> >> Here is how they say it works. >> >> >>> >>> I have just come across one of these products and it's a specially >>> designed thermostat system designed to regulate the oil temperature >>> on engines like the Rotax and Jabiru. >>> >>> We are all aware of the damage which can be caused by running your >>> aircraft engine oil temperature too low, in fact it has always been >>> recommended to get the oil temperature just over 100C during each >>> flight to burn off the water which can contaminate the engine oil, if >>> you are flying time and time again and the engine temperature is only >>> getting to say 85C the water will remain in your oil as a >>> contaminant and can go on to destroy your engine with corrosion >>> problems. Additionally, warmup is achieved very quickly on even the >>> coldest of days because the thermostat diverts the oil flow from the oil >>> cooler. >>> >>> Made in the USA these special oil thermostat units are designed to >>> quickly allow your engine to reach and maintain its optimum operating >>> temperature even on the coldest of days. >>> >>> CNC machined from 6061-T6 the unit is anodised with the type 2 >>> surface finish to protect the thermostat long-term against corrosion. >>> All of the hardware is aircraft grade and the oil thermostat unit is >>> finished to the highest possible standards and is supplied with hose >>> nipples to fit the most common oil tubing diameter used by Rotax and >>> Jabiru. >>> >>> There are a number of benefits in using an oil thermostat in your >>> aircraft which include fuel savings resulting from quick warmup times >>> and engine operation at optimum oil temperature which also increases >>> engine life because the engine is being operated at the correct oil >>> temperature. >>> >>> >>> **************** >>> >>> I have been asked the same questions by most of the people I have >>> shown this thermostat unit to... >>> >>> Will it reduce my oil pressure? The simple answer is no installing an >>> oil temperature thermostat may slightly increase your oil pressure >>> when it is most needed during cold starts. It offers a shorter, less >>> restrictive flow path to the lubricating oil while the engine is cold. >>> The cold oil bypasses the oil cooler and eliminating the small >>> pressure drop that would otherwise occur. >>> >>> Can it block the flow of oil? No, it cannot block the flow of oil in >>> any circumstances whether operating normally or in a failed >>> condition, it is impossible for the unit to block the flow of oil or the >>> oil circuit. >>> >>> What is the warranty period? The warranty period of the oil thermostat >>> is two years. >>> >>> How big is the unit? The unit is really small being 55mm high, 55mm >>> long (without the hose barbs) and just 40mm deep, the unit can be >>> bolted to the firewall or a bracket with the two 3/16" mounting holes. >>> >>> Most important... The Cost? The cost of the oil thermostat with oil >>> hose nipples is only $200 AU$ plug GST and delivery. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285987#285987 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/pic1_small_213.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/stage_1_112.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/stage_2_197.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/stage_3_485.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:46:44 AM PST US
    From: Kayberg@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Winter Storms in the Mid-Atlantic
    In a message dated 2/12/2010 10:34:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, N1BZRich@aol.com writes: Ryan, I think it is about time for the Green Landings detachment of the Lightning Skunk Works team to come up with some snow skis for the Lightning. So don't plow that runway, put the skis on. Blue Skies, Buz As you may know, Ryan has been waiting for the delivery of a small turbine. The plan was to use it for runway clearing as the snow was falling, simply by doing some fast taxing. However, UPS lost it somewhere and it was a one-of. Lawsuits are pending, however, so there can be no further discussion, under the advice of counsel. The current plan is to use a snow-board instead of skiis, mounting it to the main gear, but slightly forward. This will allow some quick turns both up and down the Green Landings hill. We tried using the hood from a new Toyota, but it keeps sticking. Also problems with the brakes. GL Hangar Rat


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    Time: 01:43:04 PM PST US
    From: N1BZRich@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Winter Storms in the Mid-Atlantic
    In a message dated 2/13/2010 10:47:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Kayberg@aol.com writes: The current plan is to use a snow-board instead of skiis, mounting it to the main gear, but slightly forward. This will allow some quick turns both up and down the Green Landings hill. We tried using the hood from a new Toyota, but it keeps sticking. Also problems with the brakes. GL Hangar Rat Hello GL Hangar Rat, Great idea about using snow boards for skis on the Lightning landing gears. Being wider than skis, they should give some extra lift in flight and great maneuverability in the moguls on the down slopes of the Green Landings runway. Since the Toyota hoods kept sticking for you, maybe they will be recalled. At least something about the Toyota is sticking - apparently the brakes don't. By the way, as to the skunk works, is a hangar rat higher on the food chain than a skunk. Which species has the larger brain - hangar rat or skunk??? Inquiring minds want to know. Blue Skies, Buz


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    Time: 05:05:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Thermostat
    From: "ThermoStasis" <migbro@att.net>
    Hello, everyone: I'll keep this short. This new thermostat is not X-Air's new thermostat, it is manufactured by my company, ThermoStasis. Although I don't have all the facts right now, to the best of my understanding, X-Air purchased several units from one of our USA resellers. I'm confident that we will be able to resolve this misunderstanding as soon as X-Air responds to my e-mails. Mike Brown President ThermoStasis www.thermostasis.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286331#286331




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