---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/09/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:56 AM - Re: March issue of the Lightning Newsletter (N1BZRich@aol.com) 2. 07:22 AM - Re: March issue of the Lightning Newsletter (Maxim Voronin) 3. 11:24 AM - Re: spar/gear bracket (Dave) 4. 11:43 AM - Re: Re: spar/gear bracket (Dave) 5. 12:12 PM - Re: Re: spar/gear bracket (flylightning) 6. 12:22 PM - Re: Re: spar/gear bracket (flylightning) 7. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: spar/gear bracket (Kayberg@AOL.COM) 8. 08:20 PM - Re: Re: spar/gear bracket (N1BZRich@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:18 AM PST US From: N1BZRich@aol.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: March issue of the Lightning Newsletter In a message dated 3/3/2010 12:56:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, FamilyGage@aol.com writes: A German Company is also building a Light Sport factory here called "MySky". I allowed their test pilot to fly my plane, and he came back with about 6-7 changes for them to re-engineer their design. Hi Ray, Nick and I have looked at the MySky display at Oshkosh. Although I like the tandem cockpit set up, some of the other things about the design tell me that they really haven't done all their homework. One example is the wing. Unless they have recently changed the rectangular one they were showing at Oshkosh, it is going to be slower than it could be if they would just change to a tapered design. And that would look much better also. Blue Skies, Buz ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: March issue of the Lightning Newsletter From: Maxim Voronin Hi Buz, We stopped by their display at Sebrieng (actually gave them a hand, their bird was parked on the turf and it took some effort to get it back onto the pavement) - same wing as before. All the best, Max On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:54 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 3/3/2010 12:56:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > FamilyGage@aol.com writes: > > A German Company is also building a Light Sport factory here called > "MySky". I allowed their test pilot to fly my plane, and he came back with > about 6-7 changes for them to re-engineer their design. > > Hi Ray, > Nick and I have looked at the MySky display at Oshkosh. Although I > like the tandem cockpit set up, some of the other things about the design > tell me that they really haven't done all their homework. One example is > the wing. Unless they have recently changed the rectangular one they were > showing at Oshkosh, it is going to be slower than it could be if they would > just change to a tapered design. And that would look much better also. > Blue Skies, > Buz > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:30 AM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket Buz thought this might be of interest to you, you can see it at www.esqual.se I'll be checking mine Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: N1BZRich@aol.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: anual form In a message dated 3/7/2010 7:47:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wb2ssj@frontiernet.net writes: Nick, can you post or send me the form for the anual inspection? Tex Tex, A condition inspection check list (experimental aircraft do conditions inspections on an annual basis) is in one of the previous newsletters. But so you don't have to look for it (sorry we don't have an index of info/articles - hint to list readers, we need someone to do that) I will put it below. Or the EAA web site has one that covers any experimental. I think Linda Mathias developed the one below specifically for the Lightning based on the one published by EAA. Blue Skies, Buz Condition Inspection Checklist Aircraft Make/Model: ___________________________________ Serial #:___________ Registration No.____________________ Engine: Jabiru 3300 Serial #: _________________________ Date of inspection: _____________________________________ TT Airframe: _____________ TT Engine: _________________ ___ Remove or open all necessary inspection plates, access doors, fairings, and cowling ___ Clean aircraft and engine ___ Inspect fuselage and hull group: ___ Skin for deterioration, distortion, other evidence of failure, defective or loose attachment of fittings ___ Systems and components for properly fitting installation, no apparent defects, and satisfactory operation ___ Static ports are clean ___ Inspect cabin and cockpit group: ___ Ensure cleanliness and no loose equipment to interfere with controls ___ Seats and safety belts in good condition with no apparent defects ___ No breakage or deterioration of windows and windshield ___ Instruments are mounted and marked properly and operate properly ___ Flight and engine controls are properly installed and operate properly ___ Battery properly installed and charged ___ Other systems properly installed, in good condition, no apparent defects, and securely attached ___ Inspect engine group: ___ No visual evidence of excessive oil, fuel, or hydraulic leaks, if any, note sources of such leaks ___ Studs and nuts properly torqued and no obvious defects ___ Internal engine for cylinder compression and metal particles or foreign matter on screens and sump drain plugs. In case of weak cylinder compression, check for improper internal condition and improper internal tolerances. ___ Engine mount not cracked or loose and engine not loose on mount ___ Rubber engine mounts in good condition ___ Engine controls properly safetied, proper travel, and no defects ___ Lines, hoses, and clamps in good condition, tight, and with no leaks ___ Fuel screen and gascolator have no water or foreign matter ___ Replace fuel filters ___ Exhaust stacks have no cracks, defects and are not loose ___ Accessories are securely mounted and have no apparent defects ___ All systems properly installed, securely attached, in good general condition, and no apparent defects ___ Cowling has no cracks nor apparent defects ___ Inspect landing gear group: ___ All units are in good condition and securely attached ___ Aluminum spring gear has no deformities ___ Linkages, trusses, and members have no excessive wear, fatigue or distortion ___ Hydraulic lines are not leaking ___ Wheels have no cracks, defects; bearings in good condition ___ Tires properly inflated with no excessive wear or cuts ___ Brakes are properly adjusted ___ Inspect wings: ___ Left wing skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion, or evidence of failure ___ Right wing skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion, or evidence of failure ___ Both wings securely attached ___ Pitot heat operates properly ___ Ailerons securely attached and move freely ___ Flap hinges secure and in good condition ___ Inspect empennage group: ___ Elevator for skin condition with no deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Elevator properly installed, securely attached, and operates properly ___ Rudder for skin condition with deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Rudder properly installed, securely attached, and operates properly ___ Horizontal and vertical stabilizer skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Control cables in good condition and safetied ___ Hinges intact and no missing screws or hinge pins ___ Inspect propeller group: ___ No cracks, nicks or binds ___ Bolts properly torqued and safetied ___ Spinner securely attached with no cracks ___ Inspect avionics group: ___ Radios and electronic equipment properly installed and securely mounted ___ Wiring and conduits properly routed, securely mounted, and no obvious defects ___ Bonding and shielding properly installed and in good condition ___ Antennas securely mounted, in good condition, and operate properly ___ ELT operates properly and battery is current Inspect miscellaneous items: ___ Exterior lights operate properly ___ Placards are legible ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:41 AM PST US From: "Dave" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket Buz I guess my photos did not come through, at the www.esqual.se site go to alerts, they show an alert that one should be watching regarding the gear support, I like the idea of the plate they added Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket Buz thought this might be of interest to you, you can see it at www.esqual.se I'll be checking mine Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: N1BZRich@aol.com To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: anual form In a message dated 3/7/2010 7:47:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wb2ssj@frontiernet.net writes: Nick, can you post or send me the form for the anual inspection? Tex Tex, A condition inspection check list (experimental aircraft do conditions inspections on an annual basis) is in one of the previous newsletters. But so you don't have to look for it (sorry we don't have an index of info/articles - hint to list readers, we need someone to do that) I will put it below. Or the EAA web site has one that covers any experimental. I think Linda Mathias developed the one below specifically for the Lightning based on the one published by EAA. Blue Skies, Buz Condition Inspection Checklist Aircraft Make/Model: ___________________________________ Serial #:___________ Registration No.____________________ Engine: Jabiru 3300 Serial #: _________________________ Date of inspection: _____________________________________ TT Airframe: _____________ TT Engine: _________________ ___ Remove or open all necessary inspection plates, access doors, fairings, and cowling ___ Clean aircraft and engine ___ Inspect fuselage and hull group: ___ Skin for deterioration, distortion, other evidence of failure, defective or loose attachment of fittings ___ Systems and components for properly fitting installation, no apparent defects, and satisfactory operation ___ Static ports are clean ___ Inspect cabin and cockpit group: ___ Ensure cleanliness and no loose equipment to interfere with controls ___ Seats and safety belts in good condition with no apparent defects ___ No breakage or deterioration of windows and windshield ___ Instruments are mounted and marked properly and operate properly ___ Flight and engine controls are properly installed and operate properly ___ Battery properly installed and charged ___ Other systems properly installed, in good condition, no apparent defects, and securely attached ___ Inspect engine group: ___ No visual evidence of excessive oil, fuel, or hydraulic leaks, if any, note sources of such leaks ___ Studs and nuts properly torqued and no obvious defects ___ Internal engine for cylinder compression and metal particles or foreign matter on screens and sump drain plugs. In case of weak cylinder compression, check for improper internal condition and improper internal tolerances. ___ Engine mount not cracked or loose and engine not loose on mount ___ Rubber engine mounts in good condition ___ Engine controls properly safetied, proper travel, and no defects ___ Lines, hoses, and clamps in good condition, tight, and with no leaks ___ Fuel screen and gascolator have no water or foreign matter ___ Replace fuel filters ___ Exhaust stacks have no cracks, defects and are not loose ___ Accessories are securely mounted and have no apparent defects ___ All systems properly installed, securely attached, in good general condition, and no apparent defects ___ Cowling has no cracks nor apparent defects ___ Inspect landing gear group: ___ All units are in good condition and securely attached ___ Aluminum spring gear has no deformities ___ Linkages, trusses, and members have no excessive wear, fatigue or distortion ___ Hydraulic lines are not leaking ___ Wheels have no cracks, defects; bearings in good condition ___ Tires properly inflated with no excessive wear or cuts ___ Brakes are properly adjusted ___ Inspect wings: ___ Left wing skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion, or evidence of failure ___ Right wing skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion, or evidence of failure ___ Both wings securely attached ___ Pitot heat operates properly ___ Ailerons securely attached and move freely ___ Flap hinges secure and in good condition ___ Inspect empennage group: ___ Elevator for skin condition with no deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Elevator properly installed, securely attached, and operates properly ___ Rudder for skin condition with deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Rudder properly installed, securely attached, and operates properly ___ Horizontal and vertical stabilizer skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Control cables in good condition and safetied ___ Hinges intact and no missing screws or hinge pins ___ Inspect propeller group: ___ No cracks, nicks or binds ___ Bolts properly torqued and safetied ___ Spinner securely attached with no cracks ___ Inspect avionics group: ___ Radios and electronic equipment properly installed and securely mounted ___ Wiring and conduits properly routed, securely mounted, and no obvious defects ___ Bonding and shielding properly installed and in good condition ___ Antennas securely mounted, in good condition, and operate properly ___ ELT operates properly and battery is current Inspect miscellaneous items: ___ Exterior lights operate properly ___ Placards are legible href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:15 PM PST US From: "flylightning" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket The photos show an esqual spar box just want to make that clear to the group first. Any one with and esqual who has the spar box welded from stainless tubing specifically should look for it. The last bunch of esquals that came over had no metal parts, we never received them either. We provided the spar boxes for those aircraft, the boxes were welded from 4130 with our own design which is identical to the design in the Lighting. Nick _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket Buz I guess my photos did not come through, at the www.esqual.se site go to alerts, they show an alert that one should be watching regarding the gear support, I like the idea of the plate they added Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket Buz thought this might be of interest to you, you can see it at www.esqual.se I'll be checking mine Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: N1BZRich@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: anual form In a message dated 3/7/2010 7:47:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wb2ssj@frontiernet.net writes: Nick, can you post or send me the form for the anual inspection? Tex Tex, A condition inspection check list (experimental aircraft do conditions inspections on an annual basis) is in one of the previous newsletters. But so you don't have to look for it (sorry we don't have an index of info/articles - hint to list readers, we need someone to do that) I will put it below. Or the EAA web site has one that covers any experimental. I think Linda Mathias developed the one below specifically for the Lightning based on the one published by EAA. Blue Skies, Buz Condition Inspection Checklist Aircraft Make/Model: ___________________________________ Serial #:___________ Registration No.____________________ Engine: Jabiru 3300 Serial #: _________________________ Date of inspection: _____________________________________ TT Airframe: _____________ TT Engine: _________________ ___ Remove or open all necessary inspection plates, access doors, fairings, and cowling ___ Clean aircraft and engine ___ Inspect fuselage and hull group: ___ Skin for deterioration, distortion, other evidence of failure, defective or loose attachment of fittings ___ Systems and components for properly fitting installation, no apparent defects, and satisfactory operation ___ Static ports are clean ___ Inspect cabin and cockpit group: ___ Ensure cleanliness and no loose equipment to interfere with controls ___ Seats and safety belts in good condition with no apparent defects ___ No breakage or deterioration of windows and windshield ___ Instruments are mounted and marked properly and operate properly ___ Flight and engine controls are properly installed and operate properly ___ Battery properly installed and charged ___ Other systems properly installed, in good condition, no apparent defects, and securely attached ___ Inspect engine group: ___ No visual evidence of excessive oil, fuel, or hydraulic leaks, if any, note sources of such leaks ___ Studs and nuts properly torqued and no obvious defects ___ Internal engine for cylinder compression and metal particles or foreign matter on screens and sump drain plugs. In case of weak cylinder compression, check for improper internal condition and improper internal tolerances. ___ Engine mount not cracked or loose and engine not loose on mount ___ Rubber engine mounts in good condition ___ Engine controls properly safetied, proper travel, and no defects ___ Lines, hoses, and clamps in good condition, tight, and with no leaks ___ Fuel screen and gascolator have no water or foreign matter ___ Replace fuel filters ___ Exhaust stacks have no cracks, defects and are not loose ___ Accessories are securely mounted and have no apparent defects ___ All systems properly installed, securely attached, in good general condition, and no apparent defects ___ Cowling has no cracks nor apparent defects ___ Inspect landing gear group: ___ All units are in good condition and securely attached ___ Aluminum spring gear has no deformities ___ Linkages, trusses, and members have no excessive wear, fatigue or distortion ___ Hydraulic lines are not leaking ___ Wheels have no cracks, defects; bearings in good condition ___ Tires properly inflated with no excessive wear or cuts ___ Brakes are properly adjusted ___ Inspect wings: ___ Left wing skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion, or evidence of failure ___ Right wing skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion, or evidence of failure ___ Both wings securely attached ___ Pitot heat operates properly ___ Ailerons securely attached and move freely ___ Flap hinges secure and in good condition ___ Inspect empennage group: ___ Elevator for skin condition with no deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Elevator properly installed, securely attached, and operates properly ___ Rudder for skin condition with deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Rudder properly installed, securely attached, and operates properly ___ Horizontal and vertical stabilizer skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Control cables in good condition and safetied ___ Hinges intact and no missing screws or hinge pins ___ Inspect propeller group: ___ No cracks, nicks or binds ___ Bolts properly torqued and safetied ___ Spinner securely attached with no cracks ___ Inspect avionics group: ___ Radios and electronic equipment properly installed and securely mounted ___ Wiring and conduits properly routed, securely mounted, and no obvious defects ___ Bonding and shielding properly installed and in good condition ___ Antennas securely mounted, in good condition, and operate properly ___ ELT operates properly and battery is current Inspect miscellaneous items: ___ Exterior lights operate properly ___ Placards are legible href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:10 PM PST US From: "flylightning" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket The photos show an esqual spar box just want to make that clear to the group first. Any one with and esqual who has the spar box welded from stainless tubing specifically should look for it. The last bunch of esquals that came over had no metal parts, we never received them either. We provided the spar boxes for those aircraft, the boxes were welded from 4130 with our own design which is identical to the design in the Lighting. Nick _____ From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket Buz I guess my photos did not come through, at the www.esqual.se site go to alerts, they show an alert that one should be watching regarding the gear support, I like the idea of the plate they added Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket Buz thought this might be of interest to you, you can see it at www.esqual.se I'll be checking mine Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: N1BZRich@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: anual form In a message dated 3/7/2010 7:47:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wb2ssj@frontiernet.net writes: Nick, can you post or send me the form for the anual inspection? Tex Tex, A condition inspection check list (experimental aircraft do conditions inspections on an annual basis) is in one of the previous newsletters. But so you don't have to look for it (sorry we don't have an index of info/articles - hint to list readers, we need someone to do that) I will put it below. Or the EAA web site has one that covers any experimental. I think Linda Mathias developed the one below specifically for the Lightning based on the one published by EAA. Blue Skies, Buz Condition Inspection Checklist Aircraft Make/Model: ___________________________________ Serial #:___________ Registration No.____________________ Engine: Jabiru 3300 Serial #: _________________________ Date of inspection: _____________________________________ TT Airframe: _____________ TT Engine: _________________ ___ Remove or open all necessary inspection plates, access doors, fairings, and cowling ___ Clean aircraft and engine ___ Inspect fuselage and hull group: ___ Skin for deterioration, distortion, other evidence of failure, defective or loose attachment of fittings ___ Systems and components for properly fitting installation, no apparent defects, and satisfactory operation ___ Static ports are clean ___ Inspect cabin and cockpit group: ___ Ensure cleanliness and no loose equipment to interfere with controls ___ Seats and safety belts in good condition with no apparent defects ___ No breakage or deterioration of windows and windshield ___ Instruments are mounted and marked properly and operate properly ___ Flight and engine controls are properly installed and operate properly ___ Battery properly installed and charged ___ Other systems properly installed, in good condition, no apparent defects, and securely attached ___ Inspect engine group: ___ No visual evidence of excessive oil, fuel, or hydraulic leaks, if any, note sources of such leaks ___ Studs and nuts properly torqued and no obvious defects ___ Internal engine for cylinder compression and metal particles or foreign matter on screens and sump drain plugs. In case of weak cylinder compression, check for improper internal condition and improper internal tolerances. ___ Engine mount not cracked or loose and engine not loose on mount ___ Rubber engine mounts in good condition ___ Engine controls properly safetied, proper travel, and no defects ___ Lines, hoses, and clamps in good condition, tight, and with no leaks ___ Fuel screen and gascolator have no water or foreign matter ___ Replace fuel filters ___ Exhaust stacks have no cracks, defects and are not loose ___ Accessories are securely mounted and have no apparent defects ___ All systems properly installed, securely attached, in good general condition, and no apparent defects ___ Cowling has no cracks nor apparent defects ___ Inspect landing gear group: ___ All units are in good condition and securely attached ___ Aluminum spring gear has no deformities ___ Linkages, trusses, and members have no excessive wear, fatigue or distortion ___ Hydraulic lines are not leaking ___ Wheels have no cracks, defects; bearings in good condition ___ Tires properly inflated with no excessive wear or cuts ___ Brakes are properly adjusted ___ Inspect wings: ___ Left wing skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion, or evidence of failure ___ Right wing skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion, or evidence of failure ___ Both wings securely attached ___ Pitot heat operates properly ___ Ailerons securely attached and move freely ___ Flap hinges secure and in good condition ___ Inspect empennage group: ___ Elevator for skin condition with no deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Elevator properly installed, securely attached, and operates properly ___ Rudder for skin condition with deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Rudder properly installed, securely attached, and operates properly ___ Horizontal and vertical stabilizer skin in good condition with no deterioration, distortion or evidence of failure ___ Control cables in good condition and safetied ___ Hinges intact and no missing screws or hinge pins ___ Inspect propeller group: ___ No cracks, nicks or binds ___ Bolts properly torqued and safetied ___ Spinner securely attached with no cracks ___ Inspect avionics group: ___ Radios and electronic equipment properly installed and securely mounted ___ Wiring and conduits properly routed, securely mounted, and no obvious defects ___ Bonding and shielding properly installed and in good condition ___ Antennas securely mounted, in good condition, and operate properly ___ ELT operates properly and battery is current Inspect miscellaneous items: ___ Exterior lights operate properly ___ Placards are legible href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:14 PM PST US From: Kayberg@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket In a message dated 3/9/2010 2:24:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, corky@hbci.com writes: thought this might be of interest to you, you can see it at _www.esqual.se_ (http://www.esqual.se/) I'll be checking mine Dave WOW, their kit price is a bite in the **^%$ considering the Euro is 1.37 dollars. And it would require shipping, which would be at least $2,000 plus customs fees. The Lightning is a great bargain!! Doug Koenigsberg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:22 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@aol.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket Dave, I think my Esqual kit was probably the last one that came through with the welded up stainless steel parts (central beam assembly, brake/rudder pedal assembly). I took one look at those and knew immediately they were no way strong enough for aircraft use - I threw them away. The welding work was not aircraft quality and I thought that stainless steel would not be strong enough for the assemblies they were being used for - too easy to bend and too brittle. Luckily, Pete and Nick has a Lightning central beam assembly "close by" and it was a "close enough" fit, so I talked them out of it (just like I later talked them out of the very first cowling that was supposed to go on the prototype Lightning. With some extra fiberglass work on the bottom and trimming the aft end of top and bottom, I got it to fit the Esqual). They also had their welding shop in Wisconsin weld me up a set of brake/rudder pedals so that solved those problems for me. As you have probably heard, more than several Esquals have had brake/rudder pedal failures or problems in the past. I have also heard of several with cracks in the original stainless steel central beam assembly - like the photos you sent. There were many other changes I made to my Esqual during its build that I thought would either make the airplane stronger/safer or that would add to the performance. That is why I started calling it an Esqual LS - which stands for Lightning Stuff. I certainly hope the new Esqual factory has at least made the central beam and brake/rudder pedal assembly changes to 4130 steel tubing. If not, we may continue to see problems in the Esqual fleet in the future. In a message dated 3/9/2010 2:44:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, corky@hbci.com writes: Buz I guess my photos did not come through, at the _www.esqual.se_ (http://www.esqual.se/) site go to alerts, they show an alert that one should be watching regarding the gear support, I like the idea of the plate they added Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: _Dave_ (mailto:corky@hbci.com) Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:21 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket Buz thought this might be of interest to you, you can see it at _www.esqual.se_ (http://www.esqual.se/) I'll be checking mine Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message lightning-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Lightning-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/lightning-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/lightning-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.