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4. 08:59 AM - Re: Re: spar/gear bracket (flylightning)
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Buz
We all had to make many changes to our Esquals, this is one item I
missed. If mine is stainless I will be doing some rework or removal.
Thanks for reminding me, when I installed Matco brakes, I had the
motorcycle brakes left over--Nick still owes me a beer!
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: N1BZRich@aol.com
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Dave,
I think my Esqual kit was probably the last one that came through
with the welded up stainless steel parts (central beam assembly,
brake/rudder pedal assembly). I took one look at those and knew
immediately they were no way strong enough for aircraft use - I threw
them away. The welding work was not aircraft quality and I thought that
stainless steel would not be strong enough for the assemblies they were
being used for - too easy to bend and too brittle.
Luckily, Pete and Nick has a Lightning central beam assembly
"close by" and it was a "close enough" fit, so I talked them out of it
(just like I later talked them out of the very first cowling that was
supposed to go on the prototype Lightning. With some extra fiberglass
work on the bottom and trimming the aft end of top and bottom, I got it
to fit the Esqual).
They also had their welding shop in Wisconsin weld me up a set of
brake/rudder pedals so that solved those problems for me. As you have
probably heard, more than several Esquals have had brake/rudder pedal
failures or problems in the past. I have also heard of several with
cracks in the original stainless steel central beam assembly - like the
photos you sent. There were many other changes I made to my Esqual
during its build that I thought would either make the airplane
stronger/safer or that would add to the performance. That is why I
started calling it an Esqual LS - which stands for Lightning Stuff.
I certainly hope the new Esqual factory has at least made the
central beam and brake/rudder pedal assembly changes to 4130 steel
tubing. If not, we may continue to see problems in the Esqual fleet in
the future.
In a message dated 3/9/2010 2:44:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
corky@hbci.com writes:
Buz
I guess my photos did not come through, at the www.esqual.se site go
to alerts, they show an alert that one should be watching regarding the
gear support, I like the idea of the plate they added
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Buz
thought this might be of interest to you, you can see it at
www.esqual.se I'll be checking mine
Dave
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Dave,
Name the time and place and I will get you a couple!
Nick
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Buz
We all had to make many changes to our Esquals, this is one item I missed.
If mine is stainless I will be doing some rework or removal.
Thanks for reminding me, when I installed Matco brakes, I had the motorcycle
brakes left over--Nick still owes me a beer!
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: N1BZRich@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Dave,
I think my Esqual kit was probably the last one that came through with
the welded up stainless steel parts (central beam assembly, brake/rudder
pedal assembly). I took one look at those and knew immediately they were no
way strong enough for aircraft use - I threw them away. The welding work
was not aircraft quality and I thought that stainless steel would not be
strong enough for the assemblies they were being used for - too easy to bend
and too brittle.
Luckily, Pete and Nick has a Lightning central beam assembly "close by"
and it was a "close enough" fit, so I talked them out of it (just like I
later talked them out of the very first cowling that was supposed to go on
the prototype Lightning. With some extra fiberglass work on the bottom and
trimming the aft end of top and bottom, I got it to fit the Esqual).
They also had their welding shop in Wisconsin weld me up a set of
brake/rudder pedals so that solved those problems for me. As you have
probably heard, more than several Esquals have had brake/rudder pedal
failures or problems in the past. I have also heard of several with cracks
in the original stainless steel central beam assembly - like the photos you
sent. There were many other changes I made to my Esqual during its build
that I thought would either make the airplane stronger/safer or that would
add to the performance. That is why I started calling it an Esqual LS -
which stands for Lightning Stuff.
I certainly hope the new Esqual factory has at least made the central
beam and brake/rudder pedal assembly changes to 4130 steel tubing. If not,
we may continue to see problems in the Esqual fleet in the future.
In a message dated 3/9/2010 2:44:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
corky@hbci.com writes:
Buz
I guess my photos did not come through, at the www.esqual.se
<http://www.esqual.se/> site go to alerts, they show an alert that one
should be watching regarding the gear support, I like the idea of the plate
they added
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave <mailto:corky@hbci.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Buz
thought this might be of interest to you, you can see it at www.esqual.se
<http://www.esqual.se/> I'll be checking mine
Dave
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Nick / Dave,
Can I get in on that beer give away / rebate program? I suggest Sun N
Fun or Oshkosh for a location.
buz
In a message dated 3/10/2010 10:04:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
info@flylightning.net writes:
Name the time and place and I will get you a couple!
Nick
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Dave,
Name the time and place and I will get you a couple!
Nick
_____
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Buz
We all had to make many changes to our Esquals, this is one item I missed.
If mine is stainless I will be doing some rework or removal.
Thanks for reminding me, when I installed Matco brakes, I had the motorcycle
brakes left over--Nick still owes me a beer!
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: N1BZRich@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Dave,
I think my Esqual kit was probably the last one that came through with
the welded up stainless steel parts (central beam assembly, brake/rudder
pedal assembly). I took one look at those and knew immediately they were no
way strong enough for aircraft use - I threw them away. The welding work
was not aircraft quality and I thought that stainless steel would not be
strong enough for the assemblies they were being used for - too easy to bend
and too brittle.
Luckily, Pete and Nick has a Lightning central beam assembly "close by"
and it was a "close enough" fit, so I talked them out of it (just like I
later talked them out of the very first cowling that was supposed to go on
the prototype Lightning. With some extra fiberglass work on the bottom and
trimming the aft end of top and bottom, I got it to fit the Esqual).
They also had their welding shop in Wisconsin weld me up a set of
brake/rudder pedals so that solved those problems for me. As you have
probably heard, more than several Esquals have had brake/rudder pedal
failures or problems in the past. I have also heard of several with cracks
in the original stainless steel central beam assembly - like the photos you
sent. There were many other changes I made to my Esqual during its build
that I thought would either make the airplane stronger/safer or that would
add to the performance. That is why I started calling it an Esqual LS -
which stands for Lightning Stuff.
I certainly hope the new Esqual factory has at least made the central
beam and brake/rudder pedal assembly changes to 4130 steel tubing. If not,
we may continue to see problems in the Esqual fleet in the future.
In a message dated 3/9/2010 2:44:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
corky@hbci.com writes:
Buz
I guess my photos did not come through, at the www.esqual.se
<http://www.esqual.se/> site go to alerts, they show an alert that one
should be watching regarding the gear support, I like the idea of the plate
they added
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave <mailto:corky@hbci.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Buz
thought this might be of interest to you, you can see it at www.esqual.se
<http://www.esqual.se/> I'll be checking mine
Dave
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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I think both venues are appropriate...Will add to the list!
Nick
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
N1BZRich@AOL.COM
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Nick / Dave,
Can I get in on that beer give away / rebate program? I suggest Sun N
Fun or Oshkosh for a location.
buz
In a message dated 3/10/2010 10:04:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
info@flylightning.net writes:
Name the time and place and I will get you a couple!
Nick
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| Subject: | Re: spar/gear bracket |
Dave,
Name the time and place and I will get you a couple!
Nick
_____
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Buz
We all had to make many changes to our Esquals, this is one item I missed.
If mine is stainless I will be doing some rework or removal.
Thanks for reminding me, when I installed Matco brakes, I had the motorcycle
brakes left over--Nick still owes me a beer!
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: N1BZRich@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Dave,
I think my Esqual kit was probably the last one that came through with
the welded up stainless steel parts (central beam assembly, brake/rudder
pedal assembly). I took one look at those and knew immediately they were no
way strong enough for aircraft use - I threw them away. The welding work
was not aircraft quality and I thought that stainless steel would not be
strong enough for the assemblies they were being used for - too easy to bend
and too brittle.
Luckily, Pete and Nick has a Lightning central beam assembly "close by"
and it was a "close enough" fit, so I talked them out of it (just like I
later talked them out of the very first cowling that was supposed to go on
the prototype Lightning. With some extra fiberglass work on the bottom and
trimming the aft end of top and bottom, I got it to fit the Esqual).
They also had their welding shop in Wisconsin weld me up a set of
brake/rudder pedals so that solved those problems for me. As you have
probably heard, more than several Esquals have had brake/rudder pedal
failures or problems in the past. I have also heard of several with cracks
in the original stainless steel central beam assembly - like the photos you
sent. There were many other changes I made to my Esqual during its build
that I thought would either make the airplane stronger/safer or that would
add to the performance. That is why I started calling it an Esqual LS -
which stands for Lightning Stuff.
I certainly hope the new Esqual factory has at least made the central
beam and brake/rudder pedal assembly changes to 4130 steel tubing. If not,
we may continue to see problems in the Esqual fleet in the future.
In a message dated 3/9/2010 2:44:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
corky@hbci.com writes:
Buz
I guess my photos did not come through, at the www.esqual.se
<http://www.esqual.se/> site go to alerts, they show an alert that one
should be watching regarding the gear support, I like the idea of the plate
they added
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave <mailto:corky@hbci.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: Re: spar/gear bracket
Buz
thought this might be of interest to you, you can see it at www.esqual.se
<http://www.esqual.se/> I'll be checking mine
Dave
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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