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1. 06:14 AM - Re: Panel Planning Program (Simon Wilson)
2. 07:44 AM - Re: Panel Planning Program (flylightning)
3. 09:35 AM - Re: Panel Planning Program (curtis myers)
4. 02:14 PM - FW: New Gear Lightning (flylightning)
5. 03:07 PM - A few more Lightnings in the Air. (flylightning)
6. 03:35 PM - Re: Re:Dan Johnson report (Kayberg@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Panel Planning Program |
Does anyone know if Arion have supplied panel data to x-panel?
Cheers
Simon
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scottarden@cox.net
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Planning Program
I used the x-panel program. The boys in Shelbyville were supposed to send the drawings to them. You might check with them, but it is a GREAT program. Easy to use, has EVERYTHING you need and is only about $60! www.xpanelsoftware.com
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Have a blessed day!
Scott C. Arden
---- Wayne Patterson <Wayne@lpwa.net> wrote:
> Anyone aware of a free or low cost panel design program - one that is
> easy to use and will produce CAD style drawings that can be used to cut
> the panel?????
>
>
>
> Wayne Patterson (Perth - Western Australia)
>
>
>
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> n5pb@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 2010 9:39 AM
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Sun N Fun Update
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>
>
> Earl,
>
> LOL about the charges and the sleeping bag...don't forget now I was in
> the AF not the Army...What's a sleeping bag?
>
>
>
> Bear
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EAFerguson@aol.com
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tue, Apr 13, 2010 8:23 am
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Sun N Fun Update
>
> In a message dated 4/12/2010 9:57:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> n5pb@AOL.COM writes:
>
> I still can't get back and forth to the hotel (12 miles
> away...). so it looks more like a 4 wheeler than a 3....
>
> P.S. Hotel?? Bring a sleeping bag and walk to thye "Hotel".
>
>
>
> Earl
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> t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
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> _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Panel Planning Program |
Group,
I will get a Cad drawing of the panel face posted today just got to get it
from the avionics shop here.
Nick
Arion Aircraft, LLC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Simon Wilson
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:51 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Panel Planning Program
Does anyone know if Arion have supplied panel data to x-panel?
Cheers
Simon
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
scottarden@cox.net
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Planning Program
I used the x-panel program. The boys in Shelbyville were supposed to send
the drawings to them. You might check with them, but it is a GREAT program.
Easy to use, has EVERYTHING you need and is only about $60!
www.xpanelsoftware.com
--
Have a blessed day!
Scott C. Arden
---- Wayne Patterson <Wayne@lpwa.net> wrote:
> Anyone aware of a free or low cost panel design program - one that is
> easy to use and will produce CAD style drawings that can be used to cut
> the panel?????
>
>
>
> Wayne Patterson (Perth - Western Australia)
>
>
>
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> n5pb@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 2010 9:39 AM
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Sun N Fun Update
>
>
>
> Earl,
>
> LOL about the charges and the sleeping bag...don't forget now I was in
> the AF not the Army...What's a sleeping bag?
>
>
>
> Bear
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EAFerguson@aol.com
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tue, Apr 13, 2010 8:23 am
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Sun N Fun Update
>
> In a message dated 4/12/2010 9:57:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> n5pb@AOL.COM writes:
>
> I still can't get back and forth to the hotel (12 miles
> away...). so it looks more like a 4 wheeler than a 3....
>
> P.S. Hotel?? Bring a sleeping bag and walk to thye "Hotel".
>
>
>
> Earl
>
>
>
> t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Planning Program |
I sent a request to Nick to supply CAD file for the panel also. Not
sure if he has done it yet.
Curt
On Apr 22, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Simon Wilson wrote:
> >
>
> Does anyone know if Arion have supplied panel data to x-panel?
>
> Cheers
> Simon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of scottarden@cox.net
> Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:40 PM
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Planning Program
>
>
> I used the x-panel program. The boys in Shelbyville were supposed
> to send the drawings to them. You might check with them, but it is
> a GREAT program. Easy to use, has EVERYTHING you need and is only
> about $60! www.xpanelsoftware.com
> --
> Have a blessed day!
> Scott C. Arden
>
> ---- Wayne Patterson <Wayne@lpwa.net> wrote:
>> Anyone aware of a free or low cost panel design program - one that is
>> easy to use and will produce CAD style drawings that can be used to
>> cut
>> the panel?????
>>
>>
>>
>> Wayne Patterson (Perth - Western Australia)
>>
>>
>>
>> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> n5pb@aol.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, 14 April 2010 9:39 AM
>> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Sun N Fun Update
>>
>>
>>
>> Earl,
>>
>> LOL about the charges and the sleeping bag...don't forget now I was
>> in
>> the AF not the Army...What's a sleeping bag?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bear
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: EAFerguson@aol.com
>> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Tue, Apr 13, 2010 8:23 am
>> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Sun N Fun Update
>>
>> In a message dated 4/12/2010 9:57:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> n5pb@AOL.COM writes:
>>
>> I still can't get back and forth to the hotel (12 miles
>> away...). so it looks more like a 4 wheeler than a 3....
>>
>> P.S. Hotel?? Bring a sleeping bag and walk to thye "Hotel".
>>
>>
>>
>> Earl
>>
>>
>>
>> t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: New Gear Lightning |
Dennis,
Here is a copy of an email I sent to ryan about the new gear sho0uld give a
good idea of how to install the torque supports.
Add to the center of the fuselage against the seat bulk head in the center;
8 layers 10oz glass 3" by 6" , than 2 layers 10oz glass 6" by 6" .; this
will build up the plys for the correct structure.
Nick
_____
From: flylightning [mailto:info@flylightning.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:55 PM
Subject: New Gear Lightning
Ryan,
Here are 2 good pictures of the landing gear. The first is head on , should
give a good idea of the difference in the stance and track. Second is the
upgrade to the box, similar to the old box just a different configuration.
The main reason for the change was the factory built LS-1, and the
possibility of it being in a flight school. The original gear is more than
sufficient for a current pilot. It was designed to be a good gear and be
lighter weight. We new the offset to this would be a gear that, should it
be dropped in hard could bend but not break. We designed it to do this so
the load would not transfer to the airframe and the only damage would be a
70 dollar gear leg.
The new gear design is only slightly heavier at about 2lbs a side so the
weight vs benefit in structure is reasonable. The new gear has a much
shallower angle than the old gear. This allow no increase in aircraft height
but a longer leg which can flex more and put up with abuse better, ie a
longer bending moment with more flex. The leg is larger at the top and
bottom than the old and incorporates multiple tapers to bend and flex
appropriately.
Drop test with the old gear showed what we thought, deformation of the gear
when a dead drop from 20" is performed. However the gear did not fail.
The new gear is ASTM compliant and went thru the above drop test with no
issue and several other drop situations and well. In fact due to our nature
( guys trying to break stuff) we dropped the new gear over a dozen times
from varying heights and never did it bend of fail in any way.
The new gear will eventually be added to the kit aircraft as well and the
old gear will be eliminated all together. For now the new gear design can be
part of a kit upon request. We have a few of the original gear boxes to use
and those will be supplied with kits until we are out or if the customer
specifically request the new design. Either way it is your choice.
Nick
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| Subject: | A few more Lightnings in the Air. |
To Group,
N897PR has flow today at 4:20. This is an LS-1 that will be headed down to
Florida. All went well on the flight with some minor adjustment to come.
Just before the Flight I had a short conversation with Dennis from down
under and he reports a First flight yesterday on a new Aussie built
Lightning as well.
Will look for an update from him.
Hopefully mark will chime in and tell us what number Flying these are since
I can keep track!
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft, LLC
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| Subject: | Re:Dan Johnson report |
I think it is worth noting that the Lightning is probably one of the top
selling Light Sports other than Vans! (Vans is in a league of their own.
They cost about the same, take 3 times longer to build and are stuck with a
Rotax engine!!)
Rumor has it that Ryan at Green Landings has sold 5 kits since January,
the three kits plus S-LSA from Shelbyville and at least two kits to
Lightning Southwest make 10 kits in the last 3 months or so.
Rumor is that the next deliveries slots are in July, so things are picking
up!!!
Talking with other suppliers at Sun n Fun, it would appear that sales are
up a bit for Light Sport.
It was fun working in the Booth this year because at least 20 times a day
someone would come up and say, "WHAT A BEAUTIFUL AIRPLANE!"
Wonder what they said about some of the competition?
Doug Koenigsberg
In a message dated 4/21/2010 1:05:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mark@flylightning.net writes:
Unfortunately no. Dan got his numbers mixed up a little.
The official tally was three kits and one S-LSA. We are taking phone calls
though from people that met us at the show. Hopefully that will generate
some more sales.
Mark
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