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Sat 05/29/10


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 02:34 PM - Re: Wheel Balancing results within the week... (n5pb@AOL.COM)
     2. 02:47 PM - Re: Wheel Balancing results within the week... (IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM)
     3. 02:52 PM - Re: Wheel Balancing results within the week... (n5pb@AOL.COM)
     4. 06:52 PM - Nose Wheel (FamilyGage@AOL.COM)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:34:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wheel Balancing results within the week...
    From: n5pb@AOL.COM
    Bill, I've gone the "Dyna Beads" route. They are sold by Innovative balancing www.innovativebalancing.com They are very inexpensive (I mean $3 bucks or so for an ounce) and dynamically balance your tires whenever they are in motion. A friend put them into his tires (tubes) and his shimmy went away. On the lightning tires you would only use an ounce in the nose whe el and 1.5 - 2.0 ounces in the mains. I'm putting them in one tire at a time to see which tire, if any stops shi mmying. Installation was a breeze even with the 90 valve stem. Right now the nose tire has them in it, but I haven't flown taxied it yet. .honey do's more than Murphy. I'll be testtng it out tomorrow and will re port results. Then the right main; followed by left main Their web site does a good job explaining the theory and technical aspects of the ceramic beads. It also lists several good testimonials. If this works, Bear -----Original Message----- From: Bill Strahan <bill@gdsx.com> Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 10:46 pm Subject: Lightning-List: Wheel Balancing results within the week... Just got my universal wheel balancer for motorcycle wheels. Tapered cones allow t to work with any wheel up to 1.5" axle. http://www.marcparnes.com/Universal_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm It's very sensitive. Thumb screws secure the cones, and if both thumb scr ews re on the same side, the balancer will slowly rotate until they're at the ottom. I have flights scheduled for Sunday and Monday I'll be doing Murph* for Me morial ay. But by the middle of the week I should have the wheels balanced and can eport on how that affects the shimmy after landing. *Murph: Run a mile, do 100 pullups, 200 pushups, and 300 squats...then ru n nother mile. Last year was just over 57 minutes, this time shooting for sub 0. Google "Memorial Day Murph" if curious. ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299227#299227 ======================== =========== -= - The Lightning-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== ===========


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    Time: 02:47:41 PM PST US
    From: IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Wheel Balancing results within the week...
    Hey Bear: I wish you better luck than I had. I put the Dyna Beads in my RH tire because it is the one always bouncing. I put about 1 3/4 ounce in the tube, and my bouncing got significantly worse. I have now put a 10 ply Michelin tire on and it is significantly better, but it still tends to bounce at about 20 mph. Lynn In a message dated 5/29/2010 5:34:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, n5pb@aol.com writes: Bill, I've gone the "Dyna Beads" route. They are sold by Innovative balancing _www.innovativebalancing.com_ (http://www.innovativebalancing.com/) They are very inexpensive (I mean $3 bucks or so for an ounce) and dynamically balance your tires whenever they are in motion. A friend put them into his tires (tubes) and his shimmy went away. On the lightning tires you would only use an ounce in the nose wheel and 1.5 - 2.0 ounces in the mains. I'm putting them in one tire at a time to see which tire, if any stops shimmying. Installation was a breeze even with the 90 valve stem. Right now the nose tire has them in it, but I haven't flown taxied it yet..honey do's more than Murphy. I'll be testtng it out tomorrow and will report results. Then the right main; followed by left main Their web site does a good job explaining the theory and technical aspects of the ceramic beads. It also lists several good testimonials. If this works, Bear -----Original Message----- From: Bill Strahan <bill@gdsx.com> Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 10:46 pm Subject: Lightning-List: Wheel Balancing results within the week... (mailto:bill@gdsx.com) > Just got my universal wheel balancer for motorcycle wheels. Tapered cones allow it to work with any wheel up to 1.5" axle. _http://www.marcparnes.com/Universal_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm_ (http://www.marcparnes.com/Universal_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm) It's very sensitive. Thumb screws secure the cones, and if both thumb screws are on the same side, the balancer will slowly rotate until they're at the bottom. I have flights scheduled for Sunday and Monday I'll be doing Murph* for Memorial Day. But by the middle of the week I should have the wheels balanced and can report on how that affects the shimmy after landing. *Murph: Run a mile, do 100 pullups, 200 pushups, and 300 squats...then run another mile. Last year was just over 57 minutes, this time shooting for sub 50. Google "Memorial Day Murph" if curious. Read this topic online here: _http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299227#299227_ (http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299227#299227) =================================== t" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List ==================================== tp://forums.matronics.com ==================================== _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ==================================== (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution)


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    Time: 02:52:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wheel Balancing results within the week...
    From: n5pb@AOL.COM
    Very interesting Lynn. I'll let you know how it works. Bear -----Original Message----- From: IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM Sent: Sat, May 29, 2010 5:47 pm Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Wheel Balancing results within the week... Hey Bear: I wish you better luck than I had. I put the Dyna Beads in my RH tire because it is the one always bouncing. I put about 1 3/4 ounce in th e tube, and my bouncing got significantly worse. I have now put a 10 ply Michelin tire on and it is significantly better, but it still tends to bo unce at about 20 mph. Lynn In a message dated 5/29/2010 5:34:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, n5pb@aol. com writes: Bill, I've gone the "Dyna Beads" route. They are sold by Innovative balancing www.innovativebalancing.com They are very inexpensive (I mean $3 bucks or so for an ounce) and dynamically balance your tires whenever they are in motion. A friend put them into his tires (tubes) and his shimmy went away. On the lightning tires you would only use an ounce in the nose whe el and 1.5 - 2.0 ounces in the mains. I'm putting them in one tire at a time to see which tire, if any stops shi mmying. Installation was a breeze even with the 90 valve stem. Right now the nose tire has them in it, but I haven't flown taxied it yet. .honey do's more than Murphy. I'll be testtng it out tomorrow and will re port results. Then the right main; followed by left main Their web site does a good job explaining the theory and technical aspects of the ceramic beads. It also lists several good testimonials. If this works, Bear -----Original Message----- From: Bill Strahan <bill@gdsx.com> Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 10:46 pm Subject: Lightning-List: Wheel Balancing results within the week... Just got my universal wheel balancer for motorcycle wheels. Tapered cones allow t to work with any wheel up to 1.5" axle. http://www.marcparnes.com/Universal_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm It's very sensitive. Thumb screws secure the cones, and if both thumb scr ews re on the same side, the balancer will slowly rotate until they're at the ottom. I have flights scheduled for Sunday and Monday I'll be doing Murph* for Me morial ay. But by the middle of the week I should have the wheels balanced and can eport on how that affects the shimmy after landing. *Murph: Run a mile, do 100 pullups, 200 pushups, and 300 squats...then ru n nother mile. Last year was just over 57 minutes, this time shooting for sub 0. Google "Memorial Day Murph" if curious. ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299227#299227 ======================== =========== " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List ======================== p://forums.matronics.com ======================== blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ======================== ======================== =========== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List ======================== s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com ======================== p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ======================== ======================== =========== -= - The Lightning-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== ===========


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    Time: 06:52:15 PM PST US
    From: FamilyGage@AOL.COM
    Subject: Nose Wheel
    Gentlemen: I know that this has been discussed many times on our site. Would like to present the nose wheel shimmy, just in case someone has had additional experience. I fly a 2005 Esquil, that is Lightning cowl forward and all three gear legs. There is no nose wheel shimmy at take off, but often becomes rather severe on landing after I allow the weight off of the main gear onto the nose wheel. By this time she is going rather slow, about 35-40 mph. The shaking will stop at about 15-20 mph. And does not recur during taxi operations. What is interesting is that even when the plane is not moving, should I take the prop and put lateral forces i.e., right and left, there is a clanking noise as if the tire is rubbing against the wheel pant. I have checked out the nose wheel installation, changed tire pressures, balanced all tires, changed tire brands; however, the symptom remains unchanged. I am out of ideas. Have learned to live with the shimmy, but this seems to be a mechanical mystery. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Ray Gage 83TW Spruce Creek Florida




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