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     1. 04:04 AM - Re: Lightning-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/03/10 (eryan@cpasforyou.net)
     2. 11:48 AM - Wheel Balance (IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:04:45 AM PST US
    From: eryan@cpasforyou.net
    Subject: Re: Lightning-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/03/10
    I have an AV8OR ACE that I need to get rid of. It has Bluetooth, weather and charts. I have had for a year with very little use. I just like my 396 better since I am doing light sport now. ED > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Lightning-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Lightning-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-06-03&Archive=Lightning > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 10-06-03&Archive=Lightning > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Lightning-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Thu 06/03/10: 3 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 05:24 AM - Re: Rust in carburetor (N1BZRich@aol.com) > 2. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Rust in carburetor (Pete Krotje) > 3. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: Rust in carburetor (Bernard Melendez, Jr.) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:24:18 AM PST US > From: N1BZRich@aol.com > Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor > > > Hi Bernardo, > Thanks for your comments on the newsletter. Your feedback on articles > and items in the newsletter help me know what is really helpful and thus > important to Lightning builders and flyers. > As to the FAA accident case study about the Jabiru engine failure due > to rust in the Bing carb, I hope everyone that reads the newsletter will > take the time to follow the link to the FAA write up on this fatal accident. > > Although I suspect that if a Jabiru engine is only fed a diet of aviation > fuel (or certainly no ethanol in any auto fuel) and if that engine is run > regularly, there probably would be no problem like this article describes. > But information like presented in this article is knowledge, and I am a > firm believer of knowing as must as possible about the "equipment" we fly. > Good luck on your Lightning build. Keep the "Newsletter staff" > informed of your progress so we can have good things to write about. > Blue Skies, > Buz > > > In a message dated 6/3/2010 1:18:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > n45bm@yahoo.com writes: > > Hi Buz, > Nice newsletter! I was pleasantly surprised to see my emails to you along > with the pictures of my little Corby Starlet, "Estrellita". Thank you. > I read with interest your June 2010 newsletter link to "Accident Case > Study, A Fatal Case of a Little Corrosion in the Worst Place". > I think that not only should this be required reading for all those with > Bing carburetors on their aircraft engines, but that it should be an annual > inspection item, to assess if all is smooth and shiny inside the > carburetor, with no binding. Hard to imagine a little rust can be > fatal as it > was in > this case. I know that I will check mine annually, at least, or more often. > Of course, my preference would be to have fuel injection on my engine for > better fuel distribution, no carburetor icing issues and better fuel > economy. Is that available? I've experienced carburetor icing > before and I was > > not a happy camper. It really grabs your attention! We don't want the > cooling fan to stop in mid air because if it stops, you start > sweating. Remember, > > air is soft, ground is hard. "Mis dos centavos" ($.02). > Regards, > Bernardo Melendez > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:39:40 AM PST US > From: "Pete Krotje" <pete@flylightning.net> > Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor > > The only problem with the story in the FAA newsletter about corrosion in the > carb is that it was not the corrosion in the carb that caused the engine > stoppage. In addition to the corrosion there was a sticky substance in the > carb that held the piston open in spite of gravity and the spring trying to > close it. When he applied full power for take off the piston was pulled up > into the dome. Then when power was reduced for cruise the piston stuck up > in the dome holding the jet needle up and allowing a lot of fuel to flow > through the jet while the throttle butterfly closed a bit and reduced > airflow through the carb. The resulting over rich condition caused the > engine to eventually stop. The sticky substance may have come from a > substance used to repair a leak in the fuel tank. > > > While the corrosion in that carb may have lead to an early carb rebuild I > don't think it was much of a factor in this accident. If the author of the > article had waited for additional results of the NTSB investigation he may > have reached a different conclusion or the article may have been better > titled "Foreign Substance in Fuel System" > > > Pete Krotje > > Arion Aircraft, LLC > > 931-680-1781 > > www.flylightning.net > > > From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > N1BZRich@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:23 AM > Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor > > > Hi Bernardo, > > Thanks for your comments on the newsletter. Your feedback on articles > and items in the newsletter help me know what is really helpful and thus > important to Lightning builders and flyers. > > As to the FAA accident case study about the Jabiru engine failure due to > rust in the Bing carb, I hope everyone that reads the newsletter will take > the time to follow the link to the FAA write up on this fatal accident. > Although I suspect that if a Jabiru engine is only fed a diet of aviation > fuel (or certainly no ethanol in any auto fuel) and if that engine is run > regularly, there probably would be no problem like this article describes. > But information like presented in this article is knowledge, and I am a firm > believer of knowing as must as possible about the "equipment" we fly. > > Good luck on your Lightning build. Keep the "Newsletter staff" informed > of your progress so we can have good things to write about. > > Blue Skies, > > Buz > > > In a message dated 6/3/2010 1:18:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > n45bm@yahoo.com writes: > > > Hi Buz, > Nice newsletter! I was pleasantly surprised to see my emails to you along > with the pictures of my little Corby Starlet, "Estrellita". Thank you. > I read with interest your June 2010 newsletter link to "Accident Case Study, > A Fatal Case of a Little Corrosion in the Worst Place". > I think that not only should this be required reading for all those with > Bing carburetors on their aircraft engines, but that it should be an annual > inspection item, to assess if all is smooth and shiny inside the carburetor, > with no binding. Hard to imagine a little rust can be fatal as it was in > this case. I know that I will check mine annually, at least, or more often. > Of course, my preference would be to have fuel injection on my engine for > better fuel distribution, no carburetor icing issues and better fuel > economy. Is that available? I've experienced carburetor icing before and I > was not a happy camper. It really grabs your attention! We don't want the > cooling fan to stop in mid air because if it stops, you start sweating. > Remember, air is soft, ground is hard. "Mis dos centavos" ($.02). > Regards, > Bernardo Melendez > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:51:56 AM PST US > From: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor > > Hello Pete, > =0AThanks for your input. I had not thought it through about the "sticky" > =0Asubstance, but in retrospect, it makes sense. > That's what I like about this group, always on top of things. Like a chicke > n on a June bug. > Best regards, > Bernardo Melendez > > --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Pete Krotje <pete@flylightning.net> wrote: > > From: Pete Krotje <pete@flylightning.net> > Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor > > =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AThe only problem with the story in the F > AA newsletter about=0Acorrosion in the carb is that it was not the corrosio > n in the carb that caused=0Athe engine stoppage.=C2- In addition to the c > orrosion there was a sticky=0Asubstance in the carb that held the piston op > en in spite of gravity and the=0Aspring trying to close it.=C2- When he a > pplied full power for take off the=0Apiston was pulled up into the dome.=C2 > - Then when power was reduced for=0Acruise the piston stuck up in the dom > e holding the jet needle up and allowing a=0Alot of fuel to flow through th > e jet while the throttle butterfly=C2- closed a=0Abit and reduced airflow > through the carb.=C2- The resulting over rich=0Acondition caused the eng > ine to eventually stop.=C2- The sticky substance may=0Ahave come from a s > ubstance used to=C2- repair a leak in the fuel tank. =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A > While the corrosion in that carb may have lead to an early carb=0Arebuild I > don=99t think it was much of a factor in this accident.=C2- If=0At > he author of the article had waited for additional results of the NTSB=0Ain > vestigation he may have reached a different conclusion or the article may > =0Ahave been better titled =9CForeign Substance in Fuel System > =9D =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0APete Krotje =0A=0AArion Aircraft, LLC =0A=0A931-680 > -1781 =0A=0Awww.flylightning.net =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- > =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom:=0Aowner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mail > to:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1BZRich@aol.com > =0ASent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:23 AM > =0ATo: lightning-list@matronics.com > =0ASubject: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =C2 > - =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AHi Bernardo, =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 > -Thanks for your comments on the=0Anewsletter.=C2- Your feedback on art > icles and items in the newsletter help me=0Aknow what is really helpful and > thus important to Lightning builders and=0Aflyers. =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2 > -=C2-=C2-=C2-As to the FAA accident case study about=0Athe Jabiru e > ngine failure due to rust in the Bing carb, I hope everyone that=0Areads th > e newsletter will take the time to follow the link to the FAA write up=0Aon > this fatal accident.=C2- Although I suspect that if a Jabiru engine is > =0Aonly fed a diet of aviation fuel (or certainly no ethanol in any auto fu > el) and=0Aif that engine is run regularly, there probably would be no probl > em like this=0Aarticle describes.=C2- But information like presented in t > his article is=0Aknowledge, and I am a firm believer of knowing as must as > possible about the=0A"equipment" we fly.=C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2-=C2 > -=C2-=C2-Good luck on your Lightning build.=C2-=0AKeep the "Newslet > ter staff" informed of your progress so we can have=0Agood things to write > about. =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ABlue Skies, =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ABuz =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A > =0A=0A=0A=C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AIn a message dated 6/3/2010 1:18:59 > A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=0An45bm@yahoo.com writes: =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A > =0A =0A =0A Hi Buz, > =0A Nice newsletter! I was pleasantly surprised to see my emails to you al > ong=0A with the pictures of my little Corby Starlet, "Estrellita". Thank > =0A you. > =0A I read with interest your June 2010 newsletter link to "Accident Case > =0A Study, A Fatal Case of a Little Corrosion in the Worst Place". > =0A I think that not only should this be required reading for all=0A thos > e with Bing carburetors on their aircraft engines, but that it should be=0A > an annual inspection item, to assess if all is smooth and shiny inside th > e=0A carburetor, with no binding. Hard to imagine a little rust can be fat > al as it=0A was in this case. I know that I will check mine annually, at l > east, or more=0A often. > =0A Of course, my preference would be to have fuel injection on my engine > for=0A better fuel distribution, no carburetor icing issues and better fue > l economy.=0A Is that available? I've experienced carburetor icing before > and I was not a=0A happy camper. It really grabs your attention! We don't > want the=0A cooling fan to stop in mid air because if it stops, you start > sweating.=0A Remember, air is soft, ground is hard. "Mis dos centavos" ($. > 02). > =0A Regards, > =0A Bernardo Melendez =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =C2- =C2-http://w > ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp:// > www.matronics.com/contribution =C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A > >


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    Time: 11:48:38 AM PST US
    From: IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM
    Subject: Wheel Balance
    Hey Bear: I guess I missed your message. How did the new type of tire balance work for you? Lynn




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