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Subject: | Re: Lightning-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/03/10 |
I have an AV8OR ACE that I need to get rid of. It has Bluetooth,
weather and charts. I have had for a year with very little use. I
just like my 396 better since I am doing light sport now.
ED
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> Total Messages Posted Thu 06/03/10: 3
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> 1. 05:24 AM - Re: Rust in carburetor (N1BZRich@aol.com)
> 2. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Rust in carburetor (Pete Krotje)
> 3. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: Rust in carburetor (Bernard Melendez, Jr.)
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> ________________________________ Message 1
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> Time: 05:24:18 AM PST US
> From: N1BZRich@aol.com
> Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor
>
>
> Hi Bernardo,
> Thanks for your comments on the newsletter. Your feedback on articles
> and items in the newsletter help me know what is really helpful and thus
> important to Lightning builders and flyers.
> As to the FAA accident case study about the Jabiru engine failure due
> to rust in the Bing carb, I hope everyone that reads the newsletter will
> take the time to follow the link to the FAA write up on this fatal accident.
>
> Although I suspect that if a Jabiru engine is only fed a diet of aviation
> fuel (or certainly no ethanol in any auto fuel) and if that engine is run
> regularly, there probably would be no problem like this article describes.
> But information like presented in this article is knowledge, and I am a
> firm believer of knowing as must as possible about the "equipment" we fly.
> Good luck on your Lightning build. Keep the "Newsletter staff"
> informed of your progress so we can have good things to write about.
> Blue Skies,
> Buz
>
>
> In a message dated 6/3/2010 1:18:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> n45bm@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Hi Buz,
> Nice newsletter! I was pleasantly surprised to see my emails to you along
> with the pictures of my little Corby Starlet, "Estrellita". Thank you.
> I read with interest your June 2010 newsletter link to "Accident Case
> Study, A Fatal Case of a Little Corrosion in the Worst Place".
> I think that not only should this be required reading for all those with
> Bing carburetors on their aircraft engines, but that it should be an annual
> inspection item, to assess if all is smooth and shiny inside the
> carburetor, with no binding. Hard to imagine a little rust can be
> fatal as it
> was in
> this case. I know that I will check mine annually, at least, or more often.
> Of course, my preference would be to have fuel injection on my engine for
> better fuel distribution, no carburetor icing issues and better fuel
> economy. Is that available? I've experienced carburetor icing
> before and I was
>
> not a happy camper. It really grabs your attention! We don't want the
> cooling fan to stop in mid air because if it stops, you start
> sweating. Remember,
>
> air is soft, ground is hard. "Mis dos centavos" ($.02).
> Regards,
> Bernardo Melendez
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
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> Time: 06:39:40 AM PST US
> From: "Pete Krotje" <pete@flylightning.net>
> Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor
>
> The only problem with the story in the FAA newsletter about corrosion in the
> carb is that it was not the corrosion in the carb that caused the engine
> stoppage. In addition to the corrosion there was a sticky substance in the
> carb that held the piston open in spite of gravity and the spring trying to
> close it. When he applied full power for take off the piston was pulled up
> into the dome. Then when power was reduced for cruise the piston stuck up
> in the dome holding the jet needle up and allowing a lot of fuel to flow
> through the jet while the throttle butterfly closed a bit and reduced
> airflow through the carb. The resulting over rich condition caused the
> engine to eventually stop. The sticky substance may have come from a
> substance used to repair a leak in the fuel tank.
>
>
> While the corrosion in that carb may have lead to an early carb rebuild I
> don't think it was much of a factor in this accident. If the author of the
> article had waited for additional results of the NTSB investigation he may
> have reached a different conclusion or the article may have been better
> titled "Foreign Substance in Fuel System"
>
>
> Pete Krotje
>
> Arion Aircraft, LLC
>
> 931-680-1781
>
> www.flylightning.net
>
>
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> N1BZRich@aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:23 AM
> Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor
>
>
> Hi Bernardo,
>
> Thanks for your comments on the newsletter. Your feedback on articles
> and items in the newsletter help me know what is really helpful and thus
> important to Lightning builders and flyers.
>
> As to the FAA accident case study about the Jabiru engine failure due to
> rust in the Bing carb, I hope everyone that reads the newsletter will take
> the time to follow the link to the FAA write up on this fatal accident.
> Although I suspect that if a Jabiru engine is only fed a diet of aviation
> fuel (or certainly no ethanol in any auto fuel) and if that engine is run
> regularly, there probably would be no problem like this article describes.
> But information like presented in this article is knowledge, and I am a firm
> believer of knowing as must as possible about the "equipment" we fly.
>
> Good luck on your Lightning build. Keep the "Newsletter staff" informed
> of your progress so we can have good things to write about.
>
> Blue Skies,
>
> Buz
>
>
> In a message dated 6/3/2010 1:18:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> n45bm@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
> Hi Buz,
> Nice newsletter! I was pleasantly surprised to see my emails to you along
> with the pictures of my little Corby Starlet, "Estrellita". Thank you.
> I read with interest your June 2010 newsletter link to "Accident Case Study,
> A Fatal Case of a Little Corrosion in the Worst Place".
> I think that not only should this be required reading for all those with
> Bing carburetors on their aircraft engines, but that it should be an annual
> inspection item, to assess if all is smooth and shiny inside the carburetor,
> with no binding. Hard to imagine a little rust can be fatal as it was in
> this case. I know that I will check mine annually, at least, or more often.
> Of course, my preference would be to have fuel injection on my engine for
> better fuel distribution, no carburetor icing issues and better fuel
> economy. Is that available? I've experienced carburetor icing before and I
> was not a happy camper. It really grabs your attention! We don't want the
> cooling fan to stop in mid air because if it stops, you start sweating.
> Remember, air is soft, ground is hard. "Mis dos centavos" ($.02).
> Regards,
> Bernardo Melendez
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:51:56 AM PST US
> From: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor
>
> Hello Pete,
> =0AThanks for your input. I had not thought it through about the "sticky"
> =0Asubstance, but in retrospect, it makes sense.
> That's what I like about this group, always on top of things. Like a chicke
> n on a June bug.
> Best regards,
> Bernardo Melendez
>
> --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Pete Krotje <pete@flylightning.net> wrote:
>
> From: Pete Krotje <pete@flylightning.net>
> Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor
>
> =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AThe only problem with the story in the F
> AA newsletter about=0Acorrosion in the carb is that it was not the corrosio
> n in the carb that caused=0Athe engine stoppage.=C2- In addition to the c
> orrosion there was a sticky=0Asubstance in the carb that held the piston op
> en in spite of gravity and the=0Aspring trying to close it.=C2- When he a
> pplied full power for take off the=0Apiston was pulled up into the dome.=C2
> - Then when power was reduced for=0Acruise the piston stuck up in the dom
> e holding the jet needle up and allowing a=0Alot of fuel to flow through th
> e jet while the throttle butterfly=C2- closed a=0Abit and reduced airflow
> through the carb.=C2- The resulting over rich=0Acondition caused the eng
> ine to eventually stop.=C2- The sticky substance may=0Ahave come from a s
> ubstance used to=C2- repair a leak in the fuel tank. =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A
> While the corrosion in that carb may have lead to an early carb=0Arebuild I
> don=99t think it was much of a factor in this accident.=C2- If=0At
> he author of the article had waited for additional results of the NTSB=0Ain
> vestigation he may have reached a different conclusion or the article may
> =0Ahave been better titled =9CForeign Substance in Fuel System
> =9D =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0APete Krotje =0A=0AArion Aircraft, LLC =0A=0A931-680
> -1781 =0A=0Awww.flylightning.net =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =C2-
> =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom:=0Aowner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mail
> to:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1BZRich@aol.com
> =0ASent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:23 AM
> =0ATo: lightning-list@matronics.com
> =0ASubject: Lightning-List: Re: Rust in carburetor =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =C2
> - =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AHi Bernardo, =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2
> -Thanks for your comments on the=0Anewsletter.=C2- Your feedback on art
> icles and items in the newsletter help me=0Aknow what is really helpful and
> thus important to Lightning builders and=0Aflyers. =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2
> -=C2-=C2-=C2-As to the FAA accident case study about=0Athe Jabiru e
> ngine failure due to rust in the Bing carb, I hope everyone that=0Areads th
> e newsletter will take the time to follow the link to the FAA write up=0Aon
> this fatal accident.=C2- Although I suspect that if a Jabiru engine is
> =0Aonly fed a diet of aviation fuel (or certainly no ethanol in any auto fu
> el) and=0Aif that engine is run regularly, there probably would be no probl
> em like this=0Aarticle describes.=C2- But information like presented in t
> his article is=0Aknowledge, and I am a firm believer of knowing as must as
> possible about the=0A"equipment" we fly.=C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=C2-=C2
> -=C2-=C2-Good luck on your Lightning build.=C2-=0AKeep the "Newslet
> ter staff" informed of your progress so we can have=0Agood things to write
> about. =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ABlue Skies, =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ABuz =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
> =0A=0A=0A=C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AIn a message dated 6/3/2010 1:18:59
> A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=0An45bm@yahoo.com writes: =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
> =0A =0A =0A Hi Buz,
> =0A Nice newsletter! I was pleasantly surprised to see my emails to you al
> ong=0A with the pictures of my little Corby Starlet, "Estrellita". Thank
> =0A you.
> =0A I read with interest your June 2010 newsletter link to "Accident Case
> =0A Study, A Fatal Case of a Little Corrosion in the Worst Place".
> =0A I think that not only should this be required reading for all=0A thos
> e with Bing carburetors on their aircraft engines, but that it should be=0A
> an annual inspection item, to assess if all is smooth and shiny inside th
> e=0A carburetor, with no binding. Hard to imagine a little rust can be fat
> al as it=0A was in this case. I know that I will check mine annually, at l
> east, or more=0A often.
> =0A Of course, my preference would be to have fuel injection on my engine
> for=0A better fuel distribution, no carburetor icing issues and better fue
> l economy.=0A Is that available? I've experienced carburetor icing before
> and I was not a=0A happy camper. It really grabs your attention! We don't
> want the=0A cooling fan to stop in mid air because if it stops, you start
> sweating.=0A Remember, air is soft, ground is hard. "Mis dos centavos" ($.
> 02).
> =0A Regards,
> =0A Bernardo Melendez =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =C2- =C2-http://w
> ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp://
> www.matronics.com/contribution =C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
>
>
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