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1. 05:38 AM - Re: airbox (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
2. 06:07 AM - Re: airbox (James, Clive R)
3. 07:52 AM - Re: airbox (Dave)
4. 10:09 AM - Re: FW: lightning for sale (Richard Zgol)
5. 01:05 PM - Re: airbox (Dave)
6. 02:53 PM - Oshkosh weather (James, Clive R)
7. 07:32 PM - Thursday evening (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
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Dave,
Your experiments sound good. Send me the photos and a few words for
the newsletter. I have always thought that the way air goes into the airbox
and having the air filter that close to the back of the airbox just had to
be decreasing overall airflow to the engine. I think you are onto
something good.
Buz
PS: Just started a light rain at OSH (7:30 AM Thursday) but some bad
stuff is on the way.
In a message dated 7/21/2010 11:58:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
corky@hbci.com writes:
--> Lightning-List message posted by: "Dave" <corky@hbci.com>
Hope not to bore all, but thought this info should be passed on. Did all
testing within a 2 hour time period, same temp, same altitudes. at 2 pm
went
up and had wot of 3110, installed a 1/2 inch spacer on air filter that
would
keep air filter 1/2 inch further from firefall, went up again and had wot
of
3160. then changed scat tube out for rubber tube from cowl to air box and
had wot of 3230, but had egts of 1420 and 1160, not willing to give up
rpms
installed a plate in outlet of air box knowing this to be a hit or miss.
what a hit, egt at wot within 10, at cruise within 35 and within 15 below
cruise. Have photos if any would like them, I am still excited about this
Dave McC
Esqual 060
----- Original Message -----
From: "davemcc" <corky@hbci.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:23 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: airbox
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Sounds a good step forward Dave, I had an uneven WOT running with my
Esqual when I flew it last but had a bigger complications to go after so
didn't do much experimentation.
Be good to see the pictures.
I have installed a smooth rubber elbow between the airfilter box(Arion
supply) and the carby while it was back in the workshop and a new Naca
scoop inlet to the airfilter box. Hoping that will smooth airflow, I
don't think it will cure the WOT running though and intend to read some
back posts of the Jab engines on Yahoo for ideas, maybe something about
the main jet...
I don't have the benefit of 6 egt's.....just 2, hoping ignorance is
bliss.
Great to meet Buz yesterday at OSH, amazing to a Brit where the anal
approach to airfield control is legendary, we were in the overhead at 3K
taking some pics and I asked if we could land and go to Vintage, 'sure
call final on 27' and we were down and being directed to where they were
temporarily parking up the old fellas. Buz roared up is his 'Gaitor'!
We've headed North and are at St Ignace for a few days (opposite
Mackinac) before we head back to Appleton to give the 172 back, Then to
the show in the car :-(
Regards, Clive (+Shirl)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: 22 July 2010 04:58
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: airbox
Hope not to bore all, but thought this info should be passed on. Did all
testing within a 2 hour time period, same temp, same altitudes. at 2 pm
went up and had wot of 3110, installed a 1/2 inch spacer on air filter
that would keep air filter 1/2 inch further from firefall, went up again
and had wot of 3160. then changed scat tube out for rubber tube from
cowl to air box and had wot of 3230, but had egts of 1420 and 1160, not
willing to give up rpms installed a plate in outlet of air box knowing
this to be a hit or miss.
what a hit, egt at wot within 10, at cruise within 35 and within 15
below cruise. Have photos if any would like them, I am still excited
about this Dave McC Esqual 060
----- Original Message -----
From: "davemcc" <corky@hbci.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:23 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: airbox
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> test message
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305887#305887
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Wife and I are hoping to set out this Sunday in the coach, hope to see you
there
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:06 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: airbox
> <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
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> Sounds a good step forward Dave, I had an uneven WOT running with my
> Esqual when I flew it last but had a bigger complications to go after so
> didn't do much experimentation.
> Be good to see the pictures.
>
> I have installed a smooth rubber elbow between the airfilter box(Arion
> supply) and the carby while it was back in the workshop and a new Naca
> scoop inlet to the airfilter box. Hoping that will smooth airflow, I
> don't think it will cure the WOT running though and intend to read some
> back posts of the Jab engines on Yahoo for ideas, maybe something about
> the main jet...
>
> I don't have the benefit of 6 egt's.....just 2, hoping ignorance is
> bliss.
>
> Great to meet Buz yesterday at OSH, amazing to a Brit where the anal
> approach to airfield control is legendary, we were in the overhead at 3K
> taking some pics and I asked if we could land and go to Vintage, 'sure
> call final on 27' and we were down and being directed to where they were
> temporarily parking up the old fellas. Buz roared up is his 'Gaitor'!
>
> We've headed North and are at St Ignace for a few days (opposite
> Mackinac) before we head back to Appleton to give the 172 back, Then to
> the show in the car :-(
>
> Regards, Clive (+Shirl)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: 22 July 2010 04:58
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: airbox
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> Hope not to bore all, but thought this info should be passed on. Did all
> testing within a 2 hour time period, same temp, same altitudes. at 2 pm
> went up and had wot of 3110, installed a 1/2 inch spacer on air filter
> that would keep air filter 1/2 inch further from firefall, went up again
> and had wot of 3160. then changed scat tube out for rubber tube from
> cowl to air box and had wot of 3230, but had egts of 1420 and 1160, not
> willing to give up rpms installed a plate in outlet of air box knowing
> this to be a hit or miss.
> what a hit, egt at wot within 10, at cruise within 35 and within 15
> below cruise. Have photos if any would like them, I am still excited
> about this Dave McC Esqual 060
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "davemcc" <corky@hbci.com>
> To: <lightning-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:23 PM
> Subject: Lightning-List: airbox
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| Subject: | Re: FW: lightning for sale |
Walt,=0A=0AJust got this jibberish from your email.=C2- =0A=0AWhat do you
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I made up the filter spacer thinking no one would see it, don"t look at
the hole spacing.
Didn"t get a chance to epoxy in the center plate -that I think is the
egt cure of the decade, giving smoother air into carb and in turn having
egts closer together
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: N1BZRich@aol.com
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: airbox
Dave,
Your experiments sound good. Send me the photos and a few words
for the newsletter. I have always thought that the way air goes into
the airbox and having the air filter that close to the back of the
airbox just had to be decreasing overall airflow to the engine. I think
you are onto something good.
Buz
PS: Just started a light rain at OSH (7:30 AM Thursday) but some bad
stuff is on the way.
In a message dated 7/21/2010 11:58:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
corky@hbci.com writes:
Hope not to bore all, but thought this info should be passed on. Did
all
testing within a 2 hour time period, same temp, same altitudes. at 2
pm went
up and had wot of 3110, installed a 1/2 inch spacer on air filter
that would
keep air filter 1/2 inch further from firefall, went up again and
had wot of
3160. then changed scat tube out for rubber tube from cowl to air
box and
had wot of 3230, but had egts of 1420 and 1160, not willing to give
up rpms
installed a plate in outlet of air box knowing this to be a hit or
miss.
what a hit, egt at wot within 10, at cruise within 35 and within 15
below
cruise. Have photos if any would like them, I am still excited about
this
Dave McC
Esqual 060
----- Original Message -----
From: "davemcc" <corky@hbci.com>
To: <lightning-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:23 PM
Subject: Lightning-List: airbox
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Been watching the radar as was wondering if we were getting any rain in
Northern Mitchigan, managed a day out flying adding another 4 airfields
to my logbook though. Makinac Island is a strange place, a real touristy
place with overpriced everything, floods of toursits off every ferry,
however peace and tranquility as soon as you get out of town. The
airfield is fantastic but that's speaking as a Brit as most of the US
airfields are a world apart from what I'm used to. 1/2 walk from town.
They have a Fort though, built by the British!
>From the Radar OSH looks to have had a bucket full of rain and some,
just stopped now after several hours. Hopefully Buz's head is still
above water! Heard a few planes on the radio heading that way diverting
to delay their trips. Last night two Challenger UL Amphibians came into
St Ignace for fuel on their way to OSH. The guys were from Canada and
crusing at 60 mph, there's dedication for you. They won't be there yet
though, mainly cause of the rain.
Just trying to figure where to head for tomorrow so I can get back to
Appleton Saturday avoiding the weather both days......
Regards, Clive
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| Subject: | Thursday evening |
More rain today - lots of more rain. Started raining about 7 AM and
didn't stop until about 4 PM. Many flooded roads in the camping area and lots
of tents sitting in about six inches of water. Some trailers and motor
homes up to their axles in mud. Aircraft parking areas are once again
unusable/closed. The Lightning booth looks OK and some display aircraft, as well
as other show planes arrived late yesterday but are parked on hard surfaces,
either on aero shell square or on the north side at one of the two FBOs -
either Basler or Orion. Also some flooded roads down town this evening
when we went dinner. Hope the weather allows the Lightning and Jab guys to
make it to OSH tomorrow. Last forecast I saw called for a 40 percent chance
of rain tomorrow. We need at least two days for things to really dry out.
Other than the grass aircraft parking areas, everything else seems to be
going together for the show to start on time.
Hope to see many of you here.
Bring your snorkel.
Buz
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