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1. 02:54 AM - Re: Historic Lightning Day (James, Clive R)
2. 06:35 AM - nicks b day (flylightning)
3. 11:37 AM - Re: [jabiruaircraft] Re: 3300 pressure sensing problem-HELP-UPDATE (James, Clive R)
4. 01:00 PM - Fly-in (Tex Mantell)
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| Subject: | Historic Lightning Day |
Hope you had a good one Nick, sorry I've been messing with my pesky oil
problem which has grounded the Esqual.
Bit late, From the UK
Regards, Clive
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Sent: 04 October 2010 12:40
Subject: Lightning-List: Historic Lightning Day
Today, 4 October, is an important day in the history of the Lightning.
It's Nick's Birthday.
Everyone send him a Happy Birthday message.
Happy Birthday, Nick.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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Thanks to everyone on the list for thee bday wishes.
I can tell you I must be getting older because after work yesterday I went
home, had a turkey sandwich and took a nap until bed time! What a party!
It was that and the good time this weekend that did me in!
Again thanks everyone and will see you at next years fly-in.
Nick
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| Subject: | Re: RE: [jabiruaircraft] Re: 3300 pressure sensing problem-HELP-UPDATE |
Lol, not that good, it's not a wiring issue. I have proven that several
ways, it was also wired by me so why would there be an issue....
Well today didn't go well as the new sender and meter arrived very late,
after I fitted it it read -7 psi static (a low zero).
Then when I tried to start the engine for a ground run the battery was
still flat. The charger I borrow had a high/low switch and apparently I
should have set it on high.
I'm at the airport now flying off for 2 weeks work so all stop and I'll
not be able to more forward until I get back.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Regards, Clive
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From: jabiruaircraft@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:jabiruaircraft@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of A
Sent: 05 October 2010 12:48
Subject: [jabiruaircraft] Re: 3300 pressure sensing problem-HELP-UPDATE
Isnt PTFE a good insulator? are the threads the earth?
Enrico
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<mailto:jabiruaircraft%40yahoogroups.com> , "James, Clive R"
<clive.james@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Norm, thanks for mulling it over for me
> 'So you have proven that your senders, wiring and the gauge on the
panel
> are working - but only when the sender is out of the engine'
>
> I also had a sender on the engine wired up with the top off the sender
> so I could manipulate the wiper, that worked fine, also ran the engine
> with it jammed at a 2 bar reading, stayed solid reading on my panel.
>
> Roger suggested pressuring up the oil galleries with air to see what
the
> relief valve pops at and also should get a reading on the senders, I
> haven't had an opportunity to do that but will at some point.
>
> BTW I screw them in with PTFE, carefully so none goes into the engine.
>
> Anyhow I have an update, I was musing the dynamics and what had
changed:
> So I changed the oil to pure 80 and fitted a new filter
> Cranking with plugs out, nothing on galleries, nothing on pump output
> So I refitted the oil cooler into circuit and primed and topped up
> Nothing on galleries but a 'normal' reading on the pump output
'normal'
> position. 4 bar.
> Yesterday I pulled the plane out and ground ran it, 3.7 bar warming to
4
> bar. 200' cloud base stopped me flying it though.
> I sit in the house waiting for a 'Tim' sender and panel meter to be
> delivered 'guaranteed next day' The plane is wired and the panel has a
> new 52mm hole waiting for this. I plan to run this alongside the VDO
set
> up. 'Tim' on the engine galleries and VDO on the normal pump output
> position.
>
> We will see.....I hope something....
>
> Regards, Clive
>
> Re:Oil pressure sensing problem.....3300 HELP
>
> Here's something which jumps out at me Clive:
>
> "I fitted a standard mechanical gauge and read ~ 4 bar on the
galleries
> and
> on the normal pump output sensing positions."
>
> So you have proven that the engine is in fact pumping oil.
>
> "I checked the senders with an air supply and test gauge and got
> reasonable
> readings on the panel meter but back in the engine cranking with plugs
> out
> nothing."
>
> So you have proven that your senders, wiring and the gauge on the
panel
> are
> working - but only when the sender is out of the engine.
>
> The only thing left is in how you are installing the pressure sender
> into
> the engine. Are you using anything on the threads of the sensors, such
> as
> thread sealing paste or, hopefully not but I have seen it used on fuel
> fittings, thread sealing plumbers Teflon tape? I'm guessing no to
both,
> but
> it's worth asking.
>
> Failing that, can you do a simple "earth jump" test from maybe the
> sender
> thread or the case of the sender? - a short wire to some extra earth
> place
> nearby on the engine.
>
> Norm
>
> In OZ.
>
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I am sorry I could not make for three family members where sick
and that was that. I hope everyone had a great time and I will wait to
here comments about what was talked about. I had several topics to bring
up but I guess they will have to wait till next year.
Some of the things I was concerned about might have been
covered and if anyone could fill me in It would be appreciated.
1. What's the latest info on the use of car gas with ethanol?
2. What is the latest scope on wheel shimmy?
3. What has the factory going to do with updates for people who have the
early model Lightning?
4. What's new at the factory and how will it effect the present
builders?
5. What mods are cost effective and how is it applied to overall safety
of the Lightning?
I know Buz will be giving a good over all picture of what
transpired at the fly-in and cant wait for the next newsletter.
TEX
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