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1. 05:15 AM - voting (IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM)
2. 09:07 AM - New builder (Harry Weber)
3. 10:30 AM - Re: New builder (EAFerguson@AOL.COM)
4. 10:52 AM - Re: New builder (Maxim Voronin)
5. 11:46 AM - Re: New builder (Harry Weber)
6. 11:52 AM - New documetns available on the Web site (flylightning)
7. 07:26 PM - Re: New builder (n5pb@AOL.COM)
8. 08:08 PM - Re: New builder (Harry Weber)
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Hey Guys and Gals: Please remember to vote today.
Lynn
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Hi Guys: I am a new purchaser of a Lightning kit position and have a couple of
questions from the group.
1. What avionics is preferred? The GRT or Dynon or other.
2. Do you recommend purchasing the II or III avionics package?
3. What options should I purchase? 30 gal for sure, wheel pants?, Wing Tips?,
Interior?
4. Any preference as to which build center to use. I live in Connecticut and have
visited Greenlandings. Everyone there very friendly and ready to help as
was Ryan Gross.
5. How long really does it take to get the plane flying using a builders assistance
program?
Just some thoughts off the top. I am a Glasair III builder so am somewhat familiar
with the process but not familiar with the flat panel screens etc. I had
the steam gauges and Garmin 530W with Garmin intercom Century 2000 A/P.
Thanks for all the input. I see this is a active owners group. I look forward
to participating.
Harry
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I'll give your questions a try. My Lightning is one of the first, and is
Light Sport. I built with the factory assist at Shelbyville. I have a GRT
Horizon I.
You may have guessed from the conversation here that we are a close group,
I count all of the builders and build centers as friends, almost family.
So won't recommend any one center over another, they are all turning out
great airplanes.
GRT vs Dynon. Since I have GRT I'll speak to that one. Their factory
support is top notch and the equipment is loaded with great features. I'll
defer
to others on Dynon.
You ask how long to build. My kit arrived in April, had it's FAA inspectio
n
in August and, after the required fly off, was in my hanger here in
Atlanta in October. Times will vary, but I don't know of any other kit th
at is as
fast, and our completion % is very high. Arion can supply the latest
stats, but well over half the kits sold are already flying.
In a message dated 11/2/2010 12:08:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
glasair98hw@comcast.net writes:
Hi Guys: I am a new purchaser of a Lightning kit position and have a
couple of questions from the group.
1. What avionics is preferred? The GRT or Dynon or other.
2. Do you recommend purchasing the II or III avionics package?
3. What options should I purchase? 30 gal for sure, wheel pants?, Wing
Tips?, Interior?
4. Any preference as to which =9Cbuild=9D center to use. I
live in
Connecticut and have visited Greenlandings. Everyone there very friendly
and ready
to help as was Ryan Gross.
5. How long really does it take to get the plane flying using a builders
assistance program?
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Hi Harry,
My 2c on the questions:
1. Matter of personal preference and plane's mission. Our Florida demo has
the twin 10" Skyview in it, one of the customers at Shelbyville recently
completed one with a similar 2x10" setup. I love them this way, but I'm a
Dynon dealer, so I probably should.
2. thought those were for the S-LSA, and as an experimental builder you hav
e
more flex to that
3. Wheel pants - yes, wing tips - I'd say yes, unless roll rate is of utmos
t
importance. Interior - vynil from Shelbyville is great, but I know there's
another interior guy in GL.
4. We're all awesome. Or so I've been told :)
Best of luck!
Max
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Harry Weber <glasair98hw@comcast.net>wrote
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> Hi Guys: I am a new purchaser of a Lightning kit position and have a
> couple of questions from the group.
>
> 1. What avionics is preferred? The GRT or Dynon or other.
>
> 2. Do you recommend purchasing the II or III avionics package?
>
> 3. What options should I purchase? 30 gal for sure, wheel pants?, Wi
ng
> Tips?, Interior?
>
> 4. Any preference as to which =93build=94 center to use. I live in
> Connecticut and have visited Greenlandings. Everyone there very friendly
> and ready to help as was Ryan Gross.
>
> 5. How long really does it take to get the plane flying using a
> builders assistance program?
>
> Just some thoughts off the top. I am a Glasair III builder so am somewha
t
> familiar with the process but not familiar with the flat panel screens et
c.
> I had the steam gauges and Garmin 530W with Garmin intercom Century 2000
> A/P.
>
> Thanks for all the input. I see this is a active owners group. I look
> forward to participating.
>
> Harry
>
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Thank you Max. Just the info I have been asking for. Harry
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From: "Maxim Voronin" <voroninmax@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2010 1:50:19 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: New builder
Hi Harry,
My 2c on the questions:
1. Matter of personal preference and plane's mission. Our Florida demo has the
twin 10" Skyview in it, one of the customers at Shelbyville recently completed
one with a similar 2x10" setup. I love them this way, but I'm a Dynon dealer,
so I probably should.
2. thought those were for the S-LSA, and as an experimental builder you have more
flex to that
3. Wheel pants - yes, wing tips - I'd say yes, unless roll rate is of utmost importance.
Interior - vynil from Shelbyville is great, but I know there's another
interior guy in GL.
4. We're all awesome. Or so I've been told :)
Best of luck!
Max
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Harry Weber < glasair98hw@comcast.net > wrote:
Hi Guys: I am a new purchaser of a Lightning kit position and have a couple of
questions from the group.
1. What avionics is preferred? The GRT or Dynon or other.
2. Do you recommend purchasing the II or III avionics package?
3. What options should I purchase? 30 gal for sure, wheel pants?, Wing Tips?, Interior?
4. Any preference as to which build center to use. I live in Connecticut and have
visited Greenlandings. Everyone there very friendly and ready to help as was
Ryan Gross.
5. How long really does it take to get the plane flying using a builders assistance
program?
Just some thoughts off the top. I am a Glasair III builder so am somewhat familiar
with the process but not familiar with the flat panel screens etc. I had the
steam gauges and Garmin 530W with Garmin intercom Century 2000 A/P.
Thanks for all the input. I see this is a active owners group. I looonth --
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Subject: | New documetns available on the Web site |
We have added the Maintenance manual for the LS-1 under the "support" header
and maintenance page.
Also the 100/annual inspection check list has been added under
"inspections".
The 100/annual inspection check list is For the LS-1 however make a great
condition inspection check sheet for the experimental.
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft, LLC
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Hi Harry and welcome to the Lightning Family!!!
My kit was number 74 and I opted to do the builder assist kit in Shelbyvil
le, TN. Mine is an experimental Amateur built. The builder assist program
is exceptional. SInce this was my first build, I wanted to have immediat
e answers when I started to work on something. Also, using the factory to
ols and jigs was certainly timesaving. I also didn't know what I'd do wit
h all the "leftover stuff" once I finished the project. The educational
benefit is also a plus doing the factory assist. I started the project
during the first week of Sept and the "jet" flew the first week of Novemb
er!
I've flown both the Dynon and GRT. While I like both of them my preferenc
e is the GRT. Factory support is superb. As far as the avionics package,
that will depend on what you really want to do with you plane. I wanted
to have an excpptional day/night VFR and added additional bells and whist
les. (autopilot, GPS,xm wx, TAS, 406 ELT, cabin night lights, to name a
few)
I did opt for the extended winglets and am happy with them. The aircraft
is very stable in flight and turns on a dime without fightin to maintain
altitude. It also seems gives me slower approach speeds and smoother lan
dings. I also got the 30 gal tanks.
Hope this helps a little.
Bear
N82PB
Florida
-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Weber <glasair98hw@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Nov 2, 2010 12:04 pm
Subject: Lightning-List: New builder
>
Hi Guys: I am a new purchaser of a Lightning kit position and have a coup
le of
uestions from the group.
1. What avionics is preferred? The GRT or Dynon or other.
2. Do you recommend purchasing the II or III avionics package?
3. What options should I purchase? 30 gal for sure, wheel pants?, Wing Ti
ps?,
nterior?
4. Any preference as to which =9Cbuild=9D center to use. I
live in Connecticut and
ave visited Greenlandings. Everyone there very friendly and ready to help
as
as Ryan Gross.
5. How long really does it take to get the plane flying using a builders
ssistance program?
Just some thoughts off the top. I am a Glasair III builder so am somewhat
amiliar with the process but not familiar with the flat panel screens etc.
I
ad the steam gauges and Garmin 530W with Garmin intercom Century 2000 A/P.
Thanks for all the input. I see this is a active owners group. I look for
ward
o participating.
Harry
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Thanks to all that gave (and give) me such great advice. Much appreciated. Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: n5pb@AOL.COM
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2010 10:17:57 PM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: New builder
Hi Harry and welcome to the Lightning Family!!!
My kit was number 74 and I opted to do the builder assist kit in Shelbyville, TN.
Mine is an experimental Amateur built. The builder assist program is exceptional.
SInce this was my first build, I wanted to have immediate answers when
I started to work on something. Also, using the factory tools and jigs was certainly
timesaving. I also didn't know what I'd do with all the "leftover stuff"
once I finished the project. The educational benefit is also a plus doing the
factory assist. I started the project during the first week of Sept and the
"jet" flew the first week of November!
I've flown both the Dynon and GRT. While I like both of them my preference is the
GRT. Factory support is superb. As far as the avionics package, that will depend
on what you really want to do with you plane. I wanted to have an excpptional
day/night VFR and added additional bells and whistles. (autopilot, GPS,xm
wx, TAS, 406 ELT, cabin night lights, to name a few)
I did opt for the extended winglets and am happy with them. The aircraft is very
stable in flight and turns on a dime without fightin to maintain altitude. It
also seems gives me slower approach speeds and smoother landings. I also got
the 30 gal tanks.
Hope this helps a little.
Bear
N82PB
Florida
-----Original Message-----
From: Harry Weber <glasair98hw@comcast.net>
Sent: Tue, Nov 2, 2010 12:04 pm
Subject: Lightning-List: New builder
Hi Guys: I am a new purchaser of a Lightning kit position and have a couple of
questions from the group.
1. What avionics is preferred? The GRT or Dynon or other.
2. Do you recommend purchasing the II or III avionics package?
3. What options should I purchase? 30 gal for sure, wheel pants?, Wing Tips?,
Interior?
4. Any preference as to which build center to use. I live in Connecticut and
have visited Greenlandings. Everyone there very friendly and ready to help as
was Ryan Gross.
5. How long really does it take to get the plane flying using a builders
assistance program?
Just some thoughts off the top. I am a Glasair III builder so am somewhat
familiar with the process but not familiar with the flat panel screens etc. I
had the steam gauges and Garmin 530W with Garmin intercom Century 2000 A/P.
Thanks for all the input. I see this is a active owners group. I look forward
to participating.
Harry
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