---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/21/10: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:04 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! (Matt Dralle) 1. 05:46 AM - Dipstick Access Cover Fastener (Wayne Patterson) 2. 07:26 AM - Re: Dipstick Access Cover Fastener (Maxim Voronin) 3. 07:53 AM - Re: Dipstick Access Cover Fastener (Dennis W. Wilt) 4. 12:09 PM - Re: Another first Flight SN107 (Dave) 5. 01:52 PM - Re: Another first Flight SN107 (luigi di napoli) 6. 03:37 PM - Re: Dipstick Access Cover Fastener (Wayne Patterson) 7. 09:08 PM - Re: Dipstick Access Cover Fastener (Steve Sundquist) 8. 09:53 PM - Looking to build a lightning () 9. 10:14 PM - Re: Looking to build a lightning (Wayne Patterson) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:40 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Lightning-List: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. 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I would like to make checking the oil as quick and easy as it is on a 172 (ie no screwdriver needed) to encourage regular dipstick reading. Anyone used anything other than camlocs to fasten the access cover? Wayne P in Western Australia ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:12 AM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Dipstick Access Cover Fastener From: Maxim Voronin Hi Wayne, We went with the hidden hinge and Cessna-style camloc on the N787FL. I got the parts from this place http://www.nonstopaviation.com/door-hidden-hinge-p-14565.html Now, they used to have the camlock in stock too, and at a very reasonable price (I believe I paid something like $55 for both the hinge and the latch at the time, Cessna camlocs tend to be expensive - something like $30-35 a piece). Also be prepared to use some Force getting the whole set up working on the Lightning cowling - compex shape of it doesn't really help. But, I am happy with how the end result turned out. Max On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Wayne Patterson wrote: > I am trying to source a flush latch for the dipstick access cover as an > alternative to camlocs. I would like to make checking the oil as quick and > easy as it is on a 172 (ie no screwdriver needed) to encourage regular > dipstick reading. Anyone used anything other than camlocs to fasten the > access cover? > > *Wayne P in Western Australia* > > * * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Dipstick Access Cover Fastener From: "Dennis W. Wilt" Max, Thanks for the link, I saved it. I'll hopefully start building a lightning next summer. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Maxim Voronin Sent: Sun, Nov 21, 2010 10:26 am Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Dipstick Access Cover Fastener Hi Wayne, We went with the hidden hinge and Cessna-style camloc on the N787FL. I got the parts from this place http://www.nonstopaviation.com/door-hidden-hinge- p-14565.html Now, they used to have the camlock in stock too, and at a very reasonable p rice (I believe I paid something like $55 for both the hinge and the latch at the time, Cessna camlocs tend to be expensive - something like $30-35 a piece). Also be prepared to use some Force getting the whole set up working on the Lightning cowling - compex shape of it doesn't really help. But, I am happy with how the end result turned out. Max On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Wayne Patterson wrote: I am trying to source a flush latch for the dipstick access cover as an alt ernative to camlocs. I would like to make checking the oil as quick and ea sy as it is on a 172 (ie no screwdriver needed) to encourage regular dipsti ck reading. Anyone used anything other than camlocs to fasten the access c over? 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If he is going to use the Esqual rim with the better tires- a reminder how one of my Esqual rims blow apart and also took out the wheel pant because of too much tire pressure. Diff. of cast verses spun rim. Matco also has great rims. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: luigi di napoli To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 11:38 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Another first Flight SN107 Thank you Nick. Very appreciated your quick answer. Best greetings Luigi --- Ven 19/11/10, flylightning ha scritto: Da: flylightning Oggetto: RE: Lightning-List: Another first Flight SN107 A: lightning-list@matronics.com Data: Venerd=C3=AC 19 novembre 2010, 16:37 The model is the WC51 a 5 in wheel with external calipers. The MC4 master cylinders are the once we use. Interesting enough the Esqual mater cylinders will provide enough pressure to hold the matco brakes but you will have to convert the caliper for the use of the DOT fluid as the o rings are mil506. use some 500-5 goodyears and you will be set fine for grass operations. Remember to tell matco the axle size for the weld-ment on the esqual. I think it is 5/8=9D but don=99t remember. Nick ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of luigi di napoli Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 9:25 AM To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Another first Flight SN107 Hello Nick, this is Luigi from Rome , Italy . I am the owner of an Esqual, with 50 hours. Is my intention to change the wheels and brakes with the one's you installed on the Lightning. Looking on the Matco site I am unable to choose due to the several model. Could you please tell me the P/N of the model you find to be ok for the Lightning ? Will be a great favour indeed. Do you to think the 5" better than the 6" ? I use normally grass field. Thank you very much for the help Sincerely yours Luigi Di Napoli Rome , Italy www.buildersbooks.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List http://forums.matronics.com www.aeroelectric.co= * HomebuiltHELP http://www.matrot="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">httt; ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:52:55 PM PST US From: luigi di napoli Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Another first Flight SN107 Dave thank-you for the info.Could you, please, list the change you made in the whole Esqual braking system ?I found already the rims extremely expande d due =C2-the pressure, or the tires quality or both inadeguate.I would l ike to modify everything to have a braking system as the name suggests.The actual tires are with the maximum speed allowed erased so I believe worth t o change everything.The axle diameter is 20 mm and I cannot imagine how to install a Matco caliper on the existing support.Let me know how you did.Tha nk you very muchLuigi --- Dom 21/11/10, Dave ha scritto: Da: Dave Oggetto: Re: Lightning-List: Another first Flight SN107 A: lightning-list@matronics.com Data: Domenica 21 novembre 2010, 21:06 =EF=BB=0A=0A =0A =0A =0ANick, =0Adon't want to stick my nose in this, bu t for =0Asafety, I will remind others of my brake tire change over from 20 mph tires to =0Abetter aircraft tires=C2-needing=C2-more psi.=C2- If he is going to use =0Athe Esqual rim with the better tires- a reminder how one of my Esqual rims blow =0Aapart and also took out the wheel pant becaus e of too much tire pressure.=C2- =0ADiff. of cast verses spun rim.=C2- Matco also has great rims.=0ADave=0A=0A ----- Original Message ----- =0A From: =0A luigi di =0A napoli =0A To: lightning-list@matronics.com =0A =0A Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 11:38 =0A AM=0A Subject: RE: Lightni ng-List: Another =0A first Flight SN107=0A ====================0A=0A =0A =0A Thank you Nick.=0A Very appreciated your quick answer.=0A Best greetings=0A Luigi --- Ven 19/11/10, flylightning =0A ha scritt o: =0A Da: =0A flylightning Oggetto: =0A RE: Lightning-List: Another first Flight SN107 A: lightning-list@matronics.com Data: =0A Venerd=C3=AC 19 novembre 2010, 16:37 =0A =0A #yiv75029754 UNKNOWN {=0AFONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;panos e-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}=0A#yiv75029754 #yiv75029754yiv679415632 #yiv7502 9754yiv679415632 P.yiv75029754yiv679415632MsoNormal {=0AMARGIN:0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY:"Times New Roman";FONT-SIZE:12pt;}=0A#yiv75029754 #yiv75029754y iv679415632 LI.yiv75029754yiv679415632MsoNormal {=0AMARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT -FAMILY:"Times New Roman";FONT-SIZE:12pt;}=0A#yiv75029754 #yiv75029754yiv67 9415632 DIV.yiv75029754yiv679415632MsoNormal {=0AMARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;FONT-FA MILY:"Times New Roman";FONT-SIZE:12pt;}=0A#yiv75029754 #yiv75029754yiv67941 5632 A:link {=0ACOLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;}=0A#yiv75029754 #yiv7 5029754yiv679415632 SPAN.yiv75029754yiv679415632MsoHyperlink {=0ACOLOR:blue ;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;}=0A#yiv75029754 #yiv75029754yiv679415632 A:visi ted {=0ACOLOR:blue;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;}=0A#yiv75029754 #yiv75029754y iv679415632 SPAN.yiv75029754yiv679415632MsoHyperlinkFollowed {=0ACOLOR:blue ;TEXT-DECORATION:underline;}=0A#yiv75029754 #yiv75029754yiv679415632 SPAN.y iv75029754yiv679415632EmailStyle18 {=0AFONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;}=0A#yi v75029754 UNKNOWN {=0AMARGIN:1in 1.25in;}=0A#yiv75029754 #yiv75029754yiv679 415632 DIV.yiv75029754yiv679415632Section1 {=0A=0A}=0A=0A=0A =0A The model is =0A the WC51 a 5 in wheel with external calip ers. 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I think it is 5/8=9D but don=99t remember. =0A =0A =C2-=0A Nick=0A =C2-=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A From: =0A owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com =0A [mailto:owner-ligh tning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of luigi di =0A napoli Sent: Friday, =0A November 19, 2010 9:25 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: =0A Another first Flight SN107=0A =C2-=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A Hello =0A Nick,=0A =0A this is =0A Luigi from Rome , Italy .=0A =0A I am the =0A owner of an Esqual, wit h 50 hours.=0A =0A Is my =0A i ntention to change the wheels and brakes with the one's you =0A installed on the Lightning.=0A =0A Lookin g on =0A the Matco site I am unable to choose due to the sev eral =0A model.=0A =0A Could y ou =0A please tell me the P/N of the model you find to be =C2-ok for =0A the Lightning ?=0A =0A Will be a =0A great favour indeed.=0A =0A Do you to =0A think the 5" better than the 6" ?=0A =0A I =0A =C2-u se=C2-normally=C2-grass =0Afield.=0A =0A Thank you =0A very much for the help=0A =0A Sincerely =0A yours=0A =0A Luigi Di =0A Napoli=0A =0A Rome , Italy =0A =C2-=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A www.builder sbooks.com=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning -List=0A =0A =0A http://forums .matronics.com=0A =0A =C2-www.aeroelectric.co= * HomebuiltHELP http://www.matrot="_blank" href="http://www.matroni cs.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">httt; =0A=0Ahref="http://www.aeroelectri c.com">www.aeroelectric.com=0Ahref="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.bui ldersbooks.com=0Ahref="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.co m=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com /chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List=0Ahref="http://forums.matronics.com"> http://forums.matronics.com=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:37:49 PM PST US Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Dipstick Access Cover Fastener From: "Wayne Patterson" Thanks Max - good lead .............. Wayne Patterson From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Maxim Voronin Sent: Sunday, 21 November 2010 11:23 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Dipstick Access Cover Fastener Hi Wayne, We went with the hidden hinge and Cessna-style camloc on the N787FL. I got the parts from this place http://www.nonstopaviation.com/door-hidden-hinge-p-14565.html Now, they used to have the camlock in stock too, and at a very reasonable price (I believe I paid something like $55 for both the hinge and the latch at the time, Cessna camlocs tend to be expensive - something like $30-35 a piece). Also be prepared to use some Force getting the whole set up working on the Lightning cowling - compex shape of it doesn't really help. But, I am happy with how the end result turned out. Max On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Wayne Patterson wrote: I am trying to source a flush latch for the dipstick access cover as an alternative to camlocs. I would like to make checking the oil as quick and easy as it is on a 172 (ie no screwdriver needed) to encourage regular dipstick reading. Anyone used anything other than camlocs to fasten the access cover? Wayne P in Western Australia "_blank">www.aeroelectric.com .com/" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List ttp://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:02 PM PST US From: Steve Sundquist Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Dipstick Access Cover Fastener Search for Hartwell flush latches at Aircraft Spruce or Wicks Aircraft Supply. Steve Sundquist Kit #48 Sent from my iPad On Nov 21, 2010, at 5:43 AM, "Wayne Patterson" wrote: > I am trying to source a flush latch for the dipstick access cover as an alternative to camlocs. I would like to make checking the oil as quick and easy as it is on a 172 (ie no screwdriver needed) to encourage regular dipstick reading. Anyone used anything other than camlocs to fasten the access cover? > > Wayne P in Western Australia > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:51 PM PST US From: Subject: Lightning-List: Looking to build a lightning I am new to this list, and I am considering building a Lightning. I would be building it in my shop at home, without builders assistance. I would be very interested in hearing from people (off list) regarding their experiences with their build. If you are interested in sharing your experience, it would be greatly appreciated. Just drop me an email. Thanks. Fred ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:29 PM PST US Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Looking to build a lightning From: "Wayne Patterson" Drop me an email Fred - to wayne@lpwa.net I'm completing a build at home and can direct you to all my build photos ..................... Kind regards. Wayne Patterson TRANSFORM CAMBODIA PO Box 398 South Perth 6951 08 94743340 -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fwellman@roadrunner.com Sent: Monday, 22 November 2010 1:35 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Looking to build a lightning I am new to this list, and I am considering building a Lightning. I would be building it in my shop at home, without builders assistance. I would be very interested in hearing from people (off list) regarding their experiences with their build. If you are interested in sharing your experience, it would be greatly appreciated. Just drop me an email. Thanks. 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