---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/06/11: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:25 AM - Re: Removable stick option? (Gerd + Uli Nowack) 2. 04:13 AM - Re: Removable stick option? (Harry Weber) 3. 06:36 AM - Re: Removable stick option? (Wayne Lenox) 4. 08:04 PM - Removable stick option? (EAFerguson@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:48 AM PST US From: Gerd + Uli Nowack Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Removable stick option? Hi Nick, Hi Group Uli my wife tells me she likes the idea of a removable stick on her side of my Lightning. So I want one , too! Wouldnt it be the easiest way if you tell the Speciality Welding people to make some lower parts of the stick with a bigger sized steel tube as a receiving upper end , predrilled for one or two AN3- bolts? Then we could buy one of these from Arion , cut off our stick off at the right point, stick the stick (yo!) into the new lower part, drill the hole all the way through and bolt it all together. 10 minutes work! This would be cheaper than a whole new stick (I hope!), shipping would be also cheaper, and we would get a reliable part with the good quality Speciality makes. By the way, I would think twice( at least!) before I would make /both/ sticks removable. Remember Murphy: if it can come off , it will come off! Gerd Am 04.01.2011 11:09, schrieb James, Clive R: > Hi Nick, I always had in mind to make the Esqual stick removable, I > planned to get a spare and just cut the stick off leaving the lever > part to do it's job as a pivot for the control. > is the Esqual still the same dimensions or did that change to an > imperial size? > Ta, Clive > Esqual in UK (+ Jab SP) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of > *flylightning > *Sent:* 02 January 2011 21:07 > *To:* lightning-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Lightning-List: Removable stick option? > > Group, > > This is in regards to Bill's mention about a removable stick option. I > thought I would start another post about it. > > How many people would like to see this? It is certainly something that > our welding shop could make, it would be easy to retrofit and could be > an option at initial purchase of a kit. > > If you are building a kit and had not flown or touched the sticks yet > as far as construction goes, we could take it in exchange for credit > towards the other stick. Not sure of a cost but give me a week and I will. > > Those who are flying would have to buy new, but I can find out how > much to change your sticks, but I think a new one will be cheaper > after shipping it back and forth and cutting it up an such. > > This will be initially to the Kit owners only. I will have to do > supplemental testing to the control sticks for the SLSAs, but that > should not take to long. > > Please let me know thru the List or my email and if we have got more > than 1 or 2 people who want it will make it happen. > > Nick Otterback > > Arion Aircraft LLC > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:42 AM PST US From: Harry Weber Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Removable stick option? How about specialty fabricating the whole lower end of the stick and we cut off the top as needed? Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerd + Uli Nowack" Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2011 4:20:52 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Removable stick option? Hi Nick, Hi Group Uli my wife tells me she likes the idea of a removable stick on her side of my Lightning. So I want one , too! Wouldnt it be the easiest way if you tell the Speciality Welding people to make some lower parts of the stick with a bigger sized steel tube as a receiving upper end , predrilled for one or two AN3- bolts? Then we could buy one of these from Arion , cut off our stick off at the right point, stick the stick (yo!) into the new lower part, drill the hole all the way through and bolt it all together. 10 minutes work! This would be cheaper than a whole new stick (I hope!), shipping would be also cheaper, and we would get a reliable part with the good quality Speciality makes. By the way, I would think twice( at least!) before I would make both sticks removable. Remember Murphy: if it can come off , it will come off! Gerd Am 04.01.2011 11:09, schrieb James, Clive R: Hi Nick, I always had in mind to make the Esqual stick removable, I planned to get a spare and just cut the stick off leaving the lever part to do it's job as a pivot for the control. is the Esqual still the same dimensions or did that change to an imperial size? Ta, Clive Esqual in UK (+ Jab SP) From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of flylightning Sent: 02 January 2011 21:07 Subject: Lightning-List: Removable stick option? Group, This is in regards to Bills mention about a removable stick option. I thought I would start another post about it. How many people would like to see this? It is certainly something that our welding shop could make, it would be easy to retrofit and could be an option at initial purchase of a kit. If you are building a kit and had not flown or touched the sticks yet as far as construction goes, we could take it in exchange for credit towards the other stick. Not sure of a cost but give me a week and I will. Those who are flying would have to buy new, but I can find out how much to change your sticks, but I think a new one will be cheaper after shipping it back and forth and cutting it up an such. This will be initially to the Kit owners only. I will have to do supplemental testing to the control sticks for the SLSAs, but that should not take to long. Please let me know thru the List or my email and if we have got more than 1 or 2 people who want it will make it happen. Nick Otterback ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:41 AM PST US From: "Wayne Lenox" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Removable stick option? Harry You have a very good idea. That would make it much easier for all of th e older Lightnings. Wayne N123WL ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Harry Weber Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Removable stick option? et> How about specialty fabricating the whole lower end of the stick and we cut off the top as needed? Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerd + Uli Nowack" Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2011 4:20:52 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Removable stick option? Hi Nick, Hi Group Uli my wife tells me she likes the idea of a removable stick on her side of my Lightning. So I want one , too! Wouldn=C2=B4t it be the easiest way if you tell the Speciality Welding p eople to make some lower parts of the stick with a bigger sized steel tu be as a receiving upper end , predrilled for one or two AN3- bolts? Then we could buy one of these from Arion , cut off our stick off at the rig ht point, stick the stick (yo!) into the new lower part, drill the hole all the way through and bolt it all together. 10 minutes work! This would be cheaper than a whole new stick (I hope!), shipping would b e also cheaper, and we would get a reliable part with the good quality S peciality makes. By the way, I would think twice( at least!) before I would make both sti cks removable. Remember Murphy: if it can come off , it will come off! Gerd Am 04.01.2011 11:09, schrieb James, Clive R: Hi Nick, I always had in mind to make the Esqual stick removable, I plan ned to get a spare and just cut the stick off leaving the lever part to do it's job as a pivot for the control. is the Esqual still the same dimensions or did that change to an imperia l size? Ta, Clive Esqual in UK (+ Jab SP) From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-lightning -list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of flylightning Sent: 02 January 2011 21:07 Subject: Lightning-List: Removable stick option? Group, This is in regards to Bill=99s mention about a removable stick opt ion. I thought I would start another post about it. How many people would like to see this? It is certainly something that o ur welding shop could make, it would be easy to retrofit and could be an option at initial purchase of a kit. If you are building a kit and had not flown or touched the sticks yet as far as construction goes, we could take it in exchange for credit towar ds the other stick. Not sure of a cost but give me a week and I will. Those who are flying would have to buy new, but I can find out how much to change your sticks, but I think a new one will be cheaper after shipp ing it back and forth and cutting it up an such. This will be initially to the Kit owners only. I will have to do supplem ental testing to the control sticks for the SLSAs, but that should not t ake to long. Please let me know thru the List or my email and if we have got more tha n 1 or 2 people who want it will make it happen. Nick Otterback ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:09 PM PST US From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM Subject: Lightning-List: Removable stick option? In a message dated 1/6/2011 9:37:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, waynelenox@juno.com writes: Hi Nick, I always had in mind to make the Esqual stick removable, I planned to get a spare and just cut the stick off leaving the lever part to do it's job as a pivot for the control. is the Esqual still the same dimensions or did that change to an imperial size? I did this years ago with a plug-in for the wiring, Since I rarely have a co-pilot, I rarely put the stick in. Install or remove takes about 5 min. 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