Lightning-List Digest Archive

Tue 06/07/11


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:38 PM - Re: Panel Pictures (John Drane)
     2. 02:56 PM - Re: Panel Pictures (Bernard Melendez, Jr.)
     3. 04:01 PM - Re:Re: Panel Pictures (Charles Dewey)
     4. 04:39 PM - Re:Re:Re: Panel Pictures (Charles Dewey)
     5. 05:15 PM - Re: Panel Pictures (John Drane)
     6. 05:18 PM - Re: Panel Pictures (John Drane)
     7. 06:46 PM - Re: Panel Pictures (Charles Gallagher)
     8. 07:41 PM - Re: Panel Pictures (Bernard Melendez, Jr.)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:38:32 PM PST US
    From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Panel Pictures
    Bernardo,=0AThe console is a standard part, contact Mark or Nick.=0A=0AJohn =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com>=0ATo: lightning-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, June 5, 2011 9:14:16 AM=0ASubject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0A=0A=0AO ooo, that's sexy, John. I really like your center console, too. I may copy. You =0Awouldn't happen to have a female mold of it, would you?=0ABernardo Melendez, Kit # 110=0AHouston, TX=0A=0A--- On Sun, 6/5/11, John Drane <jdra ne1@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0A>From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com>=0A>Subj ect: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0A>To: lightning-list@matronics.com =0A>Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 10:17 AM=0A>=0A>=0A>As long as we are looki ng a panels, here is mine.- Just waiting on my =0A>airworthiness inspecti on.=0A>=0A>John Drane=0A>N621WV=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A_________________________ _______=0AFrom: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>=0A>To: lightning-l ist@matronics.com=0A>Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 2:13:41 AM=0A>Subject: RE: Lig ames, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>=0A>=0A>Aha, you American's and 'butt s' bit of a fixation eh? Each to his=0A>own...... =0A>=0A>-----Original Mes sage-----=0A>From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com=0A>[mailto:own er-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of=0A>fwellman@roadrunner .com=0A>Sent: 05 June 2011 02:07=0A>To: lightning-list@matronics.com=0A>Sub ject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0A>=0A>--> Lightning-List message posted by: <fwellman@roadrunner.com>=0A>=0A>Gerd,=0A>=0A>Nice looking panel .- Clean and efficient.- Try not to take the naysayers=0A>too seriously .- He probably has one of your wooden sticks stuck up his=0A>butt.=0A>=0A ====================== =0A


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    Time: 02:56:09 PM PST US
    From: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Panel Pictures
    Thanks John. Did you get this part from Custom Fiberglass Molding directly, or did you go through Arion? What was the cost, BTW? Thanks again. Bernardo --- On Tue, 6/7/11, John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote: From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures Bernardo,=0AThe console is a standard part, contact Mark or Nick.=0A-=0AJ ohn =0A =0A=0A=0AFrom: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 9:14:16 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AOooo, that's sexy, John. I really like your center console, too. I may copy. You wouldn't happen to have a female mold of it, would yo u? Bernardo Melendez, Kit # 110 Houston, TX --- On Sun, 6/5/11, John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote: =0A From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures =0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAs long as we are looking a panels, here is mine.- Just wa iting on my airworthiness inspection.=0A-=0AJohn Drane=0AN621WV =0A =0A=0A=0AFrom: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 2:13:41 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures om> Aha, you American's and 'butts' bit of a fixation eh? Each to his own...... -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fwellman@roadrunner.com Sent: 05 June 2011 02:07 Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures --> Lightning-List=0A message posted by: <fwellman@roadrunner.com> Gerd, Nice looking panel.- Clean and efficient.- Try not to take the naysayer s too seriously.- He probably has one of your wooden sticks stuck up his butt. Fred ======================0A=0A


    Message 3


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    Time: 04:01:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Panel Pictures
    From: "Charles Dewey" <cdewey6969@yahoo.com>
    No. ---------- Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email ------Original Message------ From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures Bernardo, The console is a standard part, contact Mark or Nick. John ________________________________ From: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 9:14:16 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures Oooo, that's sexy, John. I really like your center console, too. I may copy You wouldn't happen to have a female mold of it, would you? Bernardo Melendez, Kit # 110 Houston, TX --- On Sun, 6/5/11, John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote: >From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures >To: lightning-list@matronics.com >Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 10:17 AM > > >As long as we are looking a panels, here is mine. Just waiting on my >airworthiness inspection. > >John Drane >N621WV > > ________________________________ From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com> >To: lightning-list@matronics.com >Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 2:13:41 AM >Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures > > >Aha, you American's and 'butts' bit of a fixation eh? Each to his >own...... > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >fwellman@roadrunner.com >Sent: 05 June 2011 02:07 >To: lightning-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures > > >Gerd, > >Nice looking panel. Clean and efficient. Try not to take the naysayers >too seriously. He probably has one of your wooden sticks stuck up his >butt. > ======================


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    Time: 04:39:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Panel Pictures
    From: "Charles Dewey" <cdewey6969@yahoo.com>
    Sorry, responded to wrong email. ---------- Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email ------Original Message------ From: Charles Dewey <cdewey6969@yahoo.com> Subject: Re:Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures No. ---------- Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email ------Original Message------ From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures Bernardo, The console is a standard part, contact Mark or Nick. John ________________________________ From: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 9:14:16 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures Oooo, that's sexy, John. I really like your center console, too. I may copy You wouldn't happen to have a female mold of it, would you? Bernardo Melendez, Kit # 110 Houston, TX --- On Sun, 6/5/11, John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote: >From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures >To: lightning-list@matronics.com >Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 10:17 AM > > >As long as we are looking a panels, here is mine. Just waiting on my >airworthiness inspection. > >John Drane >N621WV > > ________________________________ From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com> >To: lightning-list@matronics.com >Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 2:13:41 AM >Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures > > >Aha, you American's and 'butts' bit of a fixation eh? Each to his >own...... > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >fwellman@roadrunner.com >Sent: 05 June 2011 02:07 >To: lightning-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures > > >Gerd, > >Nice looking panel. Clean and efficient. Try not to take the naysayers >too seriously. He probably has one of your wooden sticks stuck up his >butt. > ======================


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    Time: 05:15:02 PM PST US
    From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Panel Pictures
    Benardo,=0AIt was with my kit.=0A=0AJohn=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____________________ ____________=0AFrom: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com>=0ATo: lightn ing-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, June 7, 2011 2:53:36 PM=0ASubject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0A=0A=0AThanks John. Did you get this part f rom Custom Fiberglass Molding directly, or =0Adid you go through Arion? Wha t was the cost, BTW? Thanks again.=0ABernardo=0A=0A=0A--- On Tue, 6/7/11, J ohn Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0A>From: John Drane <jdrane1@yah oo.com>=0A>Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0A>To: lightning-lis t@matronics.com=0A>Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 3:35 PM=0A>=0A>=0A>Bernardo ,=0A>The console is a standard part, contact Mark or Nick.=0A>=0A>John=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com>=0A>To: lightning-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent: Sun, Ju ne 5, 2011 9:14:16 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0A>=0A >=0A>Oooo, that's sexy, John. I really like your center console, too. I may copy. You =0A>wouldn't happen to have a female mold of it, would you?=0A>B ernardo Melendez, Kit # 110=0A>Houston, TX=0A>=0A>--- On Sun, 6/5/11, John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>>From: John Drane <jdrane1@yaho o.com>=0A>>Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0A>>To: lightning-li st@matronics.com=0A>>Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 10:17 AM=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>As long as we are looking a panels, here is mine.- Just waiting on my =0A>>a irworthiness inspection.=0A>>=0A>>John Drane=0A>>N621WV=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>> =0A________________________________=0AFrom: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@u k.bp.com>=0A>>To: lightning-list@matronics.com=0A>>Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 2:13:41 AM=0A>>Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0A>>=0A>>--> Lig htning-List message posted by: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>=0A> >=0A>>Aha, you American's and 'butts' bit of a fixation eh? Each to his=0A> >own...... =0A>>=0A>>-----Original Message-----=0A>>From: owner-lightning-l ist-server@matronics.com=0A>>[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics. com] On Behalf Of=0A>>fwellman@roadrunner.com=0A>>Sent: 05 June 2011 02:07 =0A>>To: lightning-list@matronics.com=0A>>Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Pane ner.com>=0A>>=0A>>Gerd,=0A>>=0A>>Nice looking panel.- Clean and efficient .- Try not to take the naysayers=0A>>too seriously.- He probably has on e of your wooden sticks stuck up his=0A>>butt.=0A>>=0A>>Fred =0A>>=0A>>=0A> > http://www.matronics.com/=============== ========= " target="_blank" =0A>>href="http://forums. ============= =0A>>


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    Time: 05:18:09 PM PST US
    From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Panel Pictures
    Bear,=0A=0AGood looking and well laid out.=0A=0AJohn Drane=0AN621WV=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "n5pb@aol.com" <n5pb@aol. com>=0ATo: lightning-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, June 2, 2011 6:12:01 P M=0ASubject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0A=0Anick,=0Ahere's a pic o f my Panel.- Obviosuly not a "traditional" one...but I love flying =0Ait. ...=0A=0ABear=0A=0AN82PB=0AKit #74=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFro m: flylightning <info@flylightning.net>=0ATo: lightning-list <lightning-lis t@matronics.com>=0ASent: Thu, Jun 2, 2011 11:59 am=0ASubject: RE: Lightning -List: Panel Pictures=0A=0A=0AI have been saving the pictures, my web edito r is creating a page for me to =0Aupload pictures to so keep em coming.=0A -=0ANick=0A-=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: owner-lightning-list- server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bernard =0AMelendez, Jr.=0ASent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:13 AM=0ATo: lightning-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0A-=0AGroup,=0AI guess I'm the guilty party that suggested instr ument panel photos and panel =0Ainformation of Lightnings / Esquals for the benefit of those still in the =0Abuilding state.=0AAll-glass panels are th e rage, but I'm still leaning toward a combination of =0Aboth glass and ste am for my dash, especially since I already have some new =0Agauges. I'm pla nning on using my 2" oil temp/pressure and both fuel level =0Agauges, as we ll as my vertical card compass along with the EFIS and GPS. A =0Abackup ASI and ALT wouldn't hurt, either.=0ABernardo Melendez, Lightning kit #110=0A =0A--- On Thu, 6/2/11, James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com> wrote:=0A=0AF rom: James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com>=0ASubject: RE: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0ATo: lightning-list@matronics.com=0ADate: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:43 AM=0AI have to disagree, a traditional panel with some round s team gauges has a =0Afar-nicer look to it.=0A-=0AFunctional yes, simple , clean, light, yes..........nice to look at.....about as =0Aexciting and i nteresting as a garage door. =0A=0A-=0AI suppose something we need to get used to, like all the cars on the road =0Alooking the same.=0A-=0ARegard s, Clive=0A-=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom:owner-lightn ing-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matron ics.com] On Behalf Of n5pb@aol.com=0ASent: 01 June 2011 21:25=0ATo: lightni ng-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0AThe p ic was attached.-- Very nice panel=0ABear=0AN82PB=0A-=0A-=0A-----Or iginal Message-----=0AFrom: Gerd + Uli Nowack <NowackLinden@gmx.de>=0ATo: l ightning-list <lightning-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 12:01 pm=0ASubject: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures=0ASome time ago somebody sugg ested to publish panel pictures.=0AHere is a picture of my Lightning`s- c ockpit - yes, some things are =0Astill missing;-)).=0AIn case somebody else likes the wood stick grips: they are from Aircraft =0Aspruce, but they com e only in 3/4" (and 1"), so I had to drill them to 7/8".=0AI just- attach ed the pic to the mail. In case the pic isn`t there, could =0Asomebody plea se mail me how to do it?=0A-=0A-=0A-=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-L ist=0A=0Ahref="http://forums.matronics.com%22%3ehttp//forums.matronics.co m=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution%22%3Ehttp://www.matronics .com/c=0Alank" =0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List ">http://wwwrel="nofollow";=0A target="_blank" =0Ahref="http://forums .matronics.com%22%3ehtt================= =======/=0A://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matr onics.com/contribution =0A-=0A-=0A--------- - The Lig htning-List Email Forum -=0A-- --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?L ightning-List=0A-------------- - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -=0A-- --> http://forums.matronics.com/=0A------- ----- - List Contribution Web Site -=0A- Thank you for your gen erous support!=0A------------------- ---------- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.=0A-- --> http: //www.matronics.com/contribution=0A-=0A " target=_blank>http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List =0Ap://forums.matronics.com blank>http: //www.matronics.com/contribution =0A


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    Time: 06:46:02 PM PST US
    From: Charles Gallagher <crg326@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Panel Pictures
    John,I think Benardo is asking about the curved panel- from the seat [win g spar] to the bottom of the instrument panel. Beautiful craftsmanship, res ulting in a new level of finish.Coupled with Max's console mounted throttle quadrant and you would be in PC-12 territory for fit and finish.- Rgs. C RG --- On Tue, 6/7/11, John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote: From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures Benardo,=0AIt was with my kit.=0A-=0AJohn =0A =0A=0A=0AFrom: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com> Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 2:53:36 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AThanks John. Did you get this part from Custom Fiberglass M olding directly, or did you go through Arion? What was the cost, BTW? Thank s again. Bernardo --- On Tue, 6/7/11, John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote: =0A From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures =0A=0A=0A=0A=0ABernardo,=0AThe console is a standard part, contact Mark or Nick.=0A-=0AJohn =0A =0A=0A=0AFrom: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 9:14:16 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures =0A=0A=0A=0AOooo, that's sexy, John. I really like your center console, too . I may copy. You wouldn't happen to have a female mold of it, would you? Bernardo Melendez, Kit # 110 Houston, TX --- On Sun, 6/5/11, John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote: =0A From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures =0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAs long as we are looking a panels, here is mine.- Just wa iting on my airworthiness inspection.=0A-=0AJohn Drane=0AN621WV =0A =0A=0A=0AFrom: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 2:13:41 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures om> Aha, you American's and 'butts' bit of a fixation eh? Each to his own...... -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fwellman@roadrunner.com Sent: 05 June 2011 02:07 Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures --> Lightning-List=0A message posted by: <fwellman@roadrunner.com> Gerd, Nice looking panel.- Clean and efficient.- Try not to take the naysayer s too seriously.- He probably has one of your wooden sticks stuck up his butt. Fred http://www.matronics.com/================ =========0A" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matron ics.com">http://forums.matr --> http://forums.m=====0A=0A=0A =0A -======================== ====================0A=0A


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    Time: 07:41:56 PM PST US
    From: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Panel Pictures
    That's correct, Charles. I was referring to the center fuel console/instrum ent panel support. The kit comes with a flat piece of aluminum that you cut and shape into a trapezoidal shape. But Mark S. tells me that Custom Fiber glass has it available. I have not found out the price, yet. Bernardo --- On Tue, 6/7/11, Charles Gallagher <crg326@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Charles Gallagher <crg326@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures John,I think Benardo is asking about the curved panel- from the seat [win g spar] to the bottom of the instrument panel. Beautiful craftsmanship, res ulting in a new level of finish.Coupled with Max's console mounted throttle quadrant and you would be in PC-12 territory for fit and finish.- Rgs. C RG --- On Tue, 6/7/11, John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote: From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures Benardo,=0AIt was with my kit.=0A-=0AJohn =0A =0A=0A=0AFrom: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com> Sent: Tue, June 7, 2011 2:53:36 PM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AThanks John. Did you get this part from Custom Fiberglass M olding directly, or did you go through Arion? What was the cost, BTW? Thank s again. Bernardo --- On Tue, 6/7/11, John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote: =0A From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures =0A=0A=0A=0A=0ABernardo,=0AThe console is a standard part, contact Mark or Nick.=0A-=0AJohn =0A =0A=0A=0AFrom: "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 9:14:16 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures =0A=0A=0A=0AOooo, that's sexy, John. I really like your center console, too . I may copy. You wouldn't happen to have a female mold of it, would you? Bernardo Melendez, Kit # 110 Houston, TX --- On Sun, 6/5/11, John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> wrote: =0A From: John Drane <jdrane1@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures =0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAs long as we are looking a panels, here is mine.- Just wa iting on my airworthiness inspection.=0A-=0AJohn Drane=0AN621WV =0A =0A=0A=0AFrom: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com> Sent: Sun, June 5, 2011 2:13:41 AM Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures om> Aha, you American's and 'butts' bit of a fixation eh? Each to his own...... -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fwellman@roadrunner.com Sent: 05 June 2011 02:07 Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Panel Pictures -->=0A Lightning-List=0A message posted by: <fwellman@roadrunner.com> Gerd, Nice looking panel.- Clean and efficient.- Try not to take the naysayer s too seriously.- He probably has one of your wooden sticks stuck up his butt. Fred http://www.matronics.com/================ =========0A" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matron ics.com">http://forums.matr --> http://forums.m=====0A=0A=0A =0Ah --> http://www.matronics.com/con============== =========================0A =0A




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