---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/28/11: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:15 AM - Re: Antenna (Gerd + Uli Nowack) 2. 07:46 AM - Re: Antenna (luigi di napoli) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:55 AM PST US From: Gerd + Uli Nowack Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Antenna Luigi, My opinion does not count 100% , since I haven`t tried my radio with engine running so far. But I have contacted the tower of the airfield I usually fly off ( EDFL, about 10km away ) from my ground floor workshop, with a steel concrete ceiling above me and brick walls around. Flap and trim motors made no disturbance. I use a german Filser/Funkwerk 833a COM with a Funkwerk antenna that has been developed especially for the composite gliders ( and powered gliders) that we have so many here in Germany. It consists of a 65cm wire part and has a short connection cable with a standart plug. I also bought a 5m (thats roughly 15ft for you non-metricals) extension cable and followed the recommendation of the Knowing ( and Dave`s, but I didn`t know of him at that time;-) ) and epoxied it to the aft side of the vertical stab`s bulkhead. There is no need for any alu or copper "counterweights". The antenna was about 40 Euro + tax. I don`t think you have to buy a new radio. From what I heard the ICOM radios are ok. If youre interested, just mail me and I will tell you where you can buy the stuff in Germany, in case they don`t sell it in Italy. Which airfield in Italy do you fly from? Hope this helps! Gerd Am 27.06.2011 08:46, schrieb luigi di napoli: > Dave thank-you for the info. > I need more info about the mounting position. > You say to install it as verticle as possibile. Do you mean in the > vertical fin or in the horizontal stabilizer? I suppose in the > vertical fin. > The antenna you suggest is the Advanced Electronic 5T ? > Thanks again. > Best regards > Luigi > Esqual I-9854 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Da:* Dave Mccorquodale > *A:* lightning-list@matronics.com > *Inviato:* Luned 27 Giugno 2011 1:48 > *Oggetto:* Re: Lightning-List: Antenna > > > Luigi > I also have an Esqual, I also tried the antenna under side mount with > a copper plate, another on top, another in the mid aft . I tried it > all. Let me tell you what worked for me, do with it what you may. > 1- get a good radio, I have had a Garmin SL 40 for about 5 years now > 2-Get that antenna mounted as far away from the engine as possible > 3-Mount the antenna as verticle as possible- I use an advanced > aircraft eletronics antenna that I mounted on the horizontal > stabilizer. take off the rudder and epoxy the antenna to the rear > inside flange of the stabilizer. > I can talk clear to any airport within 150 miles . Even if you keep > your radio, mount the antenna like I did and I know you will be happy > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* luigi di napoli > *To:* lightning-list@matronics.com > > *Sent:* Sunday, June 26, 2011 2:22 AM > *Subject:* Lightning-List: Antenna > > Hello everybody. > I wish to improve my radio ,Icom IC-A200, performance. > Practically the range is very limited and I have a lot of noise in > trasmission. > The reception is good, strong and without noise on all frequencies. > The whole radio system seems to be correct, radio,connectors... > The problem arises with the antenna. The antenna, a whip model, is > on the belly with a ground panel inside the fuselage. > The problem, I believe, is here. > So, I ask, which kind of antenna did you install and the results > obtained. > At the moment I haven't any Residual wave measurements so I cannot > answer to the request. > Thank-you > Luigi > Esqual I-9854 > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listw" target="_blank" href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://====================== > > * > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:43 AM PST US From: luigi di napoli Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Antenna Thank you Gerd for your mail with interesting infos.=0AI leave nearby Rome, 40 km south-east, and the field is Artena.=0AI tried to find on the web bu t, right now I found only the extension cable for Funwerk.=0AI really appre ciate if you may tell me where to buy this antenna.=0ABest regards=0ALuigi =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0ADa: Gerd + Uli Nowack =0AA: lightning-list@matronics.com=0AInviato: Marted=C3=AC 28 G iugno 2011 16:13=0AOggetto: Re: Lightning-List: Antenna=0A=0A=0ALuigi,=0A =0AMy opinion does not count 100% , since I haven`t tried my radio=C2-=0A with=C2-=C2- engine running so far.=0ABut I have contacted=C2- th e tower of the airfield I usually fly off (=0A EDFL, about 10km away ) f rom my ground floor workshop, with a steel=0A concrete ceiling above me and brick walls around.=0AFlap and trim motors made no disturbance.=0AI use a german=C2- Filser/Funkwerk 833a COM with a Funkwerk antenna=0A that has been developed especially for the composite gliders ( and=0A powere d gliders) that we have so many here in Germany.=0AIt consists of a 65cm wi re part and has a short connection cable=0A with a standart plug. I also bought a 5m (thats roughly 15ft for you=0A non-metricals) extension cab le and followed the recommendation of=0A the Knowing=C2- ( and Dave`s, but I didn`t know of him at that time;-) )=C2- and epoxied it to the aft side of the vertical stab`s bulkhead. There is no need for any alu or copp er "counterweights".=0AThe antenna was about 40 Euro + tax.=0AI don`t think you have to buy a new radio. From what I heard the=0A ICOM radios are o k.=0A=0AIf you=C2=B4re interested, just mail me=C2- and I will tell you w here you=0A can buy the stuff in Germany, in case they don`t sell it in Italy.=0A=0AWhich airfield in=C2- Italy do you fly from?=0A=0AHope this h elps!=0A=0AGerd=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAm 27.06.2011 08:46, schrieb luigi di napo li: =0ADave thank-you for the info.=0A>I need more info about the mounting position.=0A>You say to install it as verticle as possibile. Do you mean in the vertical fin or in the horizontal stabilizer? I suppose in the vertica l fin.=0A>The antenna you suggest is the Advanced Electronic 5T ?=0A>Thanks again.=0A>Best regards=0A>Luigi=0A>Esqual I-9854=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>__________ ______________________=0A>Da: Dave Mccorquodale =0A>A: ligh tning-list@matronics.com=0A>Inviato: Luned=C3=AC 27 Giugno 2011 1:48=0A>Ogg etto: Re: Lightning-List: Antenna=0A>=0A>=0A>=EF=BB =0A>Luigi=0A>I also have an Esqual, I also tried the antenna under side mount with a copper pl ate, another on top, another in the mid=C2- aft . I tried it all.=C2- L et me tell you what worked for me, do with it what you may.=0A>1- get a goo d radio, I have had a Garmin SL 40 for about 5 years now=0A>2-Get that ante nna mounted as far away from the engine as possible=0A>3-Mount the antenna as verticle as possible- I use an advanced aircraft eletronics antenna that I mounted on the horizontal stabilizer. take off the rudder and epoxy the antenna to the rear inside flange of the stabilizer. =0A>I can talk clear t o any airport within 150 miles .=C2- Even if you keep your radio, mount t he antenna like I did and I know you will be happy=0A>Dave=0A>----- Origina l Message ----- =0A>>From: luigi di napoli =0A>>To: lightning-list@matronic s.com =0A>>Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 2:22 AM=0A>>Subject: Lightning-List: Antenna=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Hello everybody.=0A>>I wish to improve my radio ,Ico m IC-A200, performance.=0A>>Practically the range is very limited and I hav e a lot of noise in trasmission.=0A>>The reception is good, strong and with out noise on all frequencies.=0A>>The whole radio system seems to be correc t, radio,connectors...=0A>>The problem arises with the antenna. The antenna , a whip model, is on the belly with a ground panel inside the fuselage.=0A >>The problem, I believe, is here.=0A>>So, I ask, which kind of antenna did you install and the results obtained.=0A>>At the moment I haven't any Resi dual wave measurements so I cannot answer to the request.=0A>>Thank-you=0A> >Luigi=0A>>Esqual I-9854=0A>>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lig htning-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List href="http ://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.mat ronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A>http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Lightning-Listw" target="_blank" href="http://www.matro nics.com/contribution">http://=============== == ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message lightning-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Lightning-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/lightning-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/lightning-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.