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1. 06:31 AM - New Member / Partner/ airplane Wanted (reelbelivers)
2. 06:32 AM - Re: Lightning-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 09/21/11 (...)
3. 08:10 AM - Troll (EAFerguson@AOL.COM)
4. 08:34 AM - Re: Troll (Mefford, Walt)
5. 08:48 AM - Re: Troll (James, Clive R)
6. 08:57 AM - Re: Troll (Bernard Melendez, Jr.)
7. 09:07 AM - Re: Troll (Bernard Melendez, Jr.)
8. 09:12 AM - Re: Troll (Matt Dralle)
9. 09:22 AM - Re: Troll (Nick Otterback)
10. 09:55 AM - Re: Troll (James, Clive R)
11. 10:11 AM - Re: Troll (Nick Otterback)
12. 10:24 AM - Re: Troll (J.D. Stewart - Adventure Boat Rentals)
13. 10:37 AM - Re: Troll (George Gennuso)
14. 11:06 AM - Re: oil pressure and hydraulic tappets (James, Clive R)
15. 11:23 AM - Re: oil pressure and hydraulic tappets (Mefford, Walt)
16. 11:54 AM - Re: oil pressure and hydraulic tappets (James, Clive R)
17. 12:20 PM - Re: Troll (Bernard Melendez, Jr.)
18. 12:28 PM - Re: Troll (Bernard Melendez, Jr.)
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Subject: | New Member / Partner/ airplane Wanted |
I am looking to get back flying after off for 5 years. I have ATP but will not
have a medical, it was not denied or revoked. I am looking for information
on LSA or ELSA's which I might qualify for, have not kept up with GA or EAA news
the past several years, but did go to Sun n Fun the past year and looked and
several Light Sports.
I am looking for 2 or so partners for an LSA to be based in SUA. Stuart, FL.
Any info is appreciated.
Rob
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352942#352942
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Subject: | Re: Lightning-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 09/21/11 |
1
Beatrice
Welcome aboard the Head-In-The-Sand-(or Up Elsewhere)-Express
to Carl and Pat who not only contribute NOTHING to the discussion and in
classic WE.GOT.OURS.TO.HELL.WITH.YOU fashion could care less about future
buyers of used aircraft who might get screwed... but additionally now
declare that god is on their side and that of anyone who disagrees with me.
Couple of winners there.
2
Kayberg:
I hope I never said I was half the man or pilot you or Earl and certainly
not Buz are. I'm not. Just your risking at least opprobrium (look it up,
Beatrices. Fourth grade stuff) and potentially mob revenge establishes your
cred.
I'll say it again:
I'm just trying to preserve some shred of the honor and tradition I found
and benefitted from in USA GA post WW2
and
to excoriate DELIBERATE misinformation by warning some readers of potential
pitfalls in their particular situations. How I choose to express those
FACTS for my own entertainment (and according to backchannel support the
entertainment of a few bemused others) is up to me.
3
Nemours
You whine today:
I never talked about true ground speed at sea level.
Previously you talked about both.... see "see" level ... plus there is no
such thing as true ground speed at altitude anyway. Your phrase (for
aviation purposes) is invented and wholly unnecessary. Ground speed is
ground speed, no? ALWAYS true, actual.
Ground speed is the vector sum of TAS and wind speed/direction.
Has comparatively NOTHING to do with aircraft performance, just ETA that
day,
Jesus, the lengths you people will go trying to prove me wrong. You could.
I sometimes am. But this SP eligibility stuff ain't one of those times and
neither am I wrong exposing fraud - deliberate or unintentional / by
individuals or manufacturers - to protect others.
And how many times do I have to quote the regs that LSA limits are CAS sea
level standard? You merely muddy the waters, display a keen grasp of the
obvious, and make stuff up here:
Time: 07:26:21 AM PST US
From: "J Dupont" <playgoldg@hotmail.com>
"The FAA is well aware that the same aircraft can have a faster true ground
speed at altitude"
4.
Hi Mark,
Love you too.
Sticks and stones.
Actions speak louder than words.
Your words suck but your actions are honorable.
More than I can say for the rest of this flock of Harpies.
And no Beatrices - I didn't just claim you had an STD (true or not).
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In a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lightning-list@matronics.com writes:
Time: 09:37:49 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
From: mark@flylightning.net
Sorry Earl,
This list doesn't censor like other lists (such as the failed attempt of
the poster to start a Yahoo based group). He has the right to spew as much
bullshit as he wants. It's the right that you and I served the majority of
our lives for to maintain whether we agree or not. It's our duty to filter
through the diatribe based on our own knowledge and experience and respond
from there.
Best regards,
Mark
If Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go elsewhere.
The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but not the transmission
thereof.
Earl
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The best thing that you all can do is not to respond.
Walt Mefford
GARMIN AT
Team Lead, Manufacturing Test Engineering
(503) 391-3343
walt.mefford@garmin.com<mailto:walt.mefford@garmin.com>
[cid:image001.jpg@01CC7901.F52FCAE0]
N881WP
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of EAFerguson@AOL.COM
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:06 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: Troll
In a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lightning-
list@matronics.com writes:
Time: 09:37:49 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
From: mark@flylightning.net
Sorry Earl,
This list doesn't censor like other lists (such as the failed attempt of
the poster to start a Yahoo based group). He has the right to spew as much
bullshit as he wants. It's the right that you and I served the majority of
our lives for to maintain whether we agree or not. It's our duty to filter
through the diatribe based on our own knowledge and experience and respond
from there.
Best regards,
Mark
If Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go elsewhere.
The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but not the transmission the
reof.
Earl
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Aha, I wonder how long it would take someone to figure that out!
He's been playing you like a trout on a line....:-))
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mefford,
Walt
Sent: 22 September 2011 16:31
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Troll
The best thing that you all can do is not to respond.
Walt Mefford
GARMIN AT
Team Lead, Manufacturing Test Engineering
(503) 391-3343
walt.mefford@garmin.com
N881WP
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
EAFerguson@AOL.COM
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:06 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: Troll
In a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lightning-list@matronics.com writes:
Time: 09:37:49 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
From: mark@flylightning.net
Sorry Earl,
This list doesn't censor like other lists (such as the failed
attempt of
the poster to start a Yahoo based group). He has the right to
spew as much
bullshit as he wants. It's the right that you and I served the
majority of
our lives for to maintain whether we agree or not. It's our duty
to filter
through the diatribe based on our own knowledge and experience
and respond
from there.
Best regards,
Mark
If Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go elsewhere.
The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but not the transmission
thereof.
Earl
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I agree with you, Earl. Please, someone more techie than I am, start a Yaho
o group. Someone that can monitor the list.
Bernardo
--- On Thu, 9/22/11, EAFerguson@AOL.COM <EAFerguson@AOL.COM> wrote:
From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM <EAFerguson@AOL.COM>
Subject: Lightning-List: Troll
=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AIn a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A.M. Eastern Da
ylight Time, =0Alightning-list@matronics.com writes:=0ATime: =0A 09:37:49
PM PST US
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
From: =0A mark@flylightning.net
Sorry Earl,
This list doesn't censor =0A like other lists (such as the failed attempt
of
the poster to start a Yahoo =0A based group). He has the right to spew as
much
bullshit as he wants. It's =0A the right that you and I served the majorit
y of
our lives for to maintain =0A whether we agree or not. It's our duty to fi
lter
through the diatribe based =0A on our own knowledge and experience and res
pond
from there.
Best =0A regards,
Mark
=0A=0AIf Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go =0Aelse
where.=0A-=0AThe Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but not the t
=========================0A
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=C2-A pissing contest! I thought about telling him how knowledgeable and
correct he is, and how nobody else knows diddly about this subject. And how
we should all listen and learn from him, but I decided, "Eh, why bother?".
I just wanted to see who the winner of the biggest and farthest stream was
going to be. Now on to my regularly scheduled program.
Bernardo
--- On Thu, 9/22/11, James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com> wrote:
From: James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Troll
Aha, I wonder how long it would take someone to figure that out! =C2-He
=99s been playing you like a trout on a line.:-)) =C2-From
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rver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mefford, Walt
Sent: 22 September 2011 16:31
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Troll =C2-The best thing that you all can do
is not to respond. =C2- =C2-Walt MeffordGARMIN ATTeam Lead, Manufactur
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htning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of EAFerguson@AOL.COM
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:06 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: Troll =C2-In a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A
.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lightning-list@matronics.com writes:Time: 09:37:
49 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
From: mark@flylightning.net
Sorry Earl,
This list doesn't censor like other lists (such as the failed attempt of
the poster to start a Yahoo based group). He has the right to spew as much
bullshit as he wants. It's the right that you and I served the majority of
our lives for to maintain whether we agree or not. It's our duty to filter
through the diatribe based on our own knowledge and experience and respond
from there.
Best regards,
MarkIf Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go elsewhere
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avn100@aol.com has been removed and blocked from posting at the Matronics Sites.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
At 08:06 AM 9/22/2011 Thursday, you wrote:
>In a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lightning-list@matronics.com
writes:
>Time: 09:37:49 PM PST US
>Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
>From: mark@flylightning.net
>
>
>Sorry Earl,
>
>This list doesn't censor like other lists (such as the failed attempt of
>the poster to start a Yahoo based group). He has the right to spew as much
>bullshit as he wants. It's the right that you and I served the majority of
>our lives for to maintain whether we agree or not. It's our duty to filter
>through the diatribe based on our own knowledge and experience and respond
>from there.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Mark
>
>If Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go elsewhere.
>
>The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but not the transmission thereof.
>
>Earl
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He has been blocked from the list
Nick
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 22, 2011, at 12:04 PM, "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <n45bm@yahoo.com> wrot
e:
> A pissing contest! I thought about telling him how knowledgeable and corr
ect he is, and how nobody else knows diddly about this subject. And how we s
hould all listen and learn from him, but I decided, "Eh, why bother?".
> I just wanted to see who the winner of the biggest and farthest stream was
going to be. Now on to my regularly scheduled program.
> Bernardo
>
> --- On Thu, 9/22/11, James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com> wrote:
>
> From: James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
> Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Troll
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 10:45 AM
>
> Aha, I wonder how long it would take someone to figure that out!
>
>
>
> He=99s been playing you like a trout on a line.:-))
>
>
>
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mefford, Walt
> Sent: 22 September 2011 16:31
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Troll
>
>
>
> The best thing that you all can do is not to respond.
>
>
>
>
>
> Walt Mefford
>
> GARMIN AT
>
> Team Lead, Manufacturing Test Engineering
>
> (503) 391-3343
>
> walt.mefford@garmin.com
>
> <image001.jpg>
>
> N881WP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of EAFerguson@AOL.COM
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:06 AM
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Lightning-List: Troll
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lightning
-list@matronics.com writes:
>
> Time: 09:37:49 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
> From: mark@flylightning.net
>
>
> Sorry Earl,
>
> This list doesn't censor like other lists (such as the failed attempt of
> the poster to start a Yahoo based group). He has the right to spew as much
> bullshit as he wants. It's the right that you and I served the majority of
> our lives for to maintain whether we agree or not. It's our duty to filter
> through the diatribe based on our own knowledge and experience and respond
> from there.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark
>
> If Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go elsewhere.
>
>
>
> The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but not the transmission th
ereof.
>
>
>
> Earl
>
>
>
> ======================
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Pete was always dead against Yahoo as it used to Spamalot, though I
never got any, I did notice he's been posting on it of late.
Matronics you get spam from the guy who keeps telling you the rules but
you can send attachments, you can't (as yet) do that on Yahoo.
Regards, Clive
Esqual Grounded due to hyd lifter engine woes...valves not closing and
so no compression, anyone seen that in their lightning or Esqual?
Problem seems to be lifters are a bit too keen on taking up the slack...
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bernard
Melendez, Jr.
Sent: 22 September 2011 16:54
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
I agree with you, Earl. Please, someone more techie than I am, start a
Yahoo group. Someone that can monitor the list.
Bernardo
--- On Thu, 9/22/11, EAFerguson@AOL.COM <EAFerguson@AOL.COM> wrote:
From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM <EAFerguson@AOL.COM>
Subject: Lightning-List: Troll
In a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lightning-list@matronics.com writes:
Time: 09:37:49 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
From: mark@flylightning.net
Sorry Earl,
This list doesn't censor like other lists (such as the failed
attempt of
the poster to start a Yahoo based group). He has the right to
spew as much
bullshit as he wants. It's the right that you and I served the
majority of
our lives for to maintain whether we agree or not. It's our duty
to filter
through the diatribe based on our own knowledge and experience
and respond
from there.
Best regards,
Mark
If Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go elsewhere.
The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but not the transmission
thereof.
Earl
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Clive,
What are u getting for oil pressure in cruise, some of the early hyd engine w
ill get the valves held open by high oil pressure
Nick
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 22, 2011, at 12:51 PM, "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com> wrote
:
> Pete was always dead against Yahoo as it used to Spamalot, though I never g
ot any, I did notice he=99s been posting on it of late.
>
> Matronics you get spam from the guy who keeps telling you the rules but yo
u can send attachments, you can=99t (as yet) do that on Yahoo.
>
>
>
> Regards, Clive
>
> Esqual Grounded due to hyd lifter engine woesvalves not closing a
nd so no compression, anyone seen that in their lightning or Esqual?
>
> Problem seems to be lifters are a bit too keen on taking up the slack
>
>
>
>
>
> From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Melendez, Jr.
> Sent: 22 September 2011 16:54
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
>
>
>
> I agree with you, Earl. Please, someone more techie than I am, start a Yah
oo group. Someone that can monitor the list.
> Bernardo
>
> --- On Thu, 9/22/11, EAFerguson@AOL.COM <EAFerguson@AOL.COM> wrote:
>
>
> From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM <EAFerguson@AOL.COM>
> Subject: Lightning-List: Troll
> To: lightning-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 10:06 AM
>
> In a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lightning
-list@matronics.com writes:
>
> Time: 09:37:49 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
> From: mark@flylightning.net
>
>
> Sorry Earl,
>
> This list doesn't censor like other lists (such as the failed attempt of
> the poster to start a Yahoo based group). He has the right to spew as much
> bullshit as he wants. It's the right that you and I served the majority of
> our lives for to maintain whether we agree or not. It's our duty to filter
> through the diatribe based on our own knowledge and experience and respond
> from there.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark
>
> If Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go elsewhere.
>
>
>
> The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but not the transmission th
ereof.
>
>
>
> Earl
>
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Just to clarify, you CAN send attachments to the list if the
owner/moderators set it up that way. As the owner of 5 Yahoo lists I don't,
because it's too easy for someone to unknowlingly send a 9MB file or worse
yet, a virus. There are sections of the list for both files and photos so
they can be put there instead.
There are options to moderate all new subscribers (until you get to know
they're not spammers) and to moderate the ones who cause trouble.
In any case, it's a moot point since Matt took care of the problem.
J.D. Stewart
YahooGroups FlyChallenger and TitanAircraft lists, along with a few others.
Lightning fan, and hopefull owner someday.
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Clive
R
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 11:52 AM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Troll
Pete was always dead against Yahoo as it used to Spamalot, though I never
got any, I did notice he's been posting on it of late.
Matronics you get spam from the guy who keeps telling you the rules but you
can send attachments, you can't (as yet) do that on Yahoo.
Regards, Clive
Esqual Grounded due to hyd lifter engine woes.valves not closing and so no
compression, anyone seen that in their lightning or Esqual?
Problem seems to be lifters are a bit too keen on taking up the slack.
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bernard
Melendez, Jr.
Sent: 22 September 2011 16:54
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
I agree with you, Earl. Please, someone more techie than I am, start a Yahoo
group. Someone that can monitor the list.
Bernardo
--- On Thu, 9/22/11, EAFerguson@AOL.COM <EAFerguson@AOL.COM> wrote:
From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM <EAFerguson@AOL.COM>
Subject: Lightning-List: Troll
In a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lightning-list@matronics.com writes:
Time: 09:37:49 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
From: mark@flylightning.net
Sorry Earl,
This list doesn't censor like other lists (such as the failed attempt of
the poster to start a Yahoo based group). He has the right to spew as much
bullshit as he wants. It's the right that you and I served the majority of
our lives for to maintain whether we agree or not. It's our duty to filter
through the diatribe based on our own knowledge and experience and respond
from there.
Best regards,
Mark
If Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go elsewhere.
The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but not the transmission
thereof.
Earl
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Your both right.=C2- Never wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and the
pig likes =0Ait.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "J
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=0ASent: Thu, September 22, 2011 8:45:06 AM=0ASubject: RE: Lightning-List:
Troll=0A=0A=0AAha, I wonder how long it would take someone to figure that o
ut! =0A=C2-=0AHe=99s been playing you like a trout on a line
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RE: Lightning-List: Troll=0A=C2-=0AThe best thing that you all can do is
not to respond.=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0AWalt Mefford=0AGARMIN AT=0ATeam Lead,
Manufacturing Test Engineering=0A(503) 391-3343=0Awalt.mefford@garmin.com
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Of =0AEAFerguson@AOL.COM=0ASent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:06 AM=0ATo:
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n a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =0Alightnin
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Woo Hoo!!
Bernardo
--- On Thu, 9/22/11, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
avn100@aol.com has been removed and blocked from posting at the Matronics S
ites.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
At 08:06 AM 9/22/2011- Thursday, you wrote:
>In a message dated 9/21/2011 2:59:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lightning
-list@matronics.com writes:
>Time: 09:37:49 PM PST US
>Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
>From: mark@flylightning.net
>
>
>Sorry Earl,
>
>This list doesn't censor like other lists (such as the failed attempt of
>the poster to start a Yahoo based group). He has the right to spew as much
>bullshit as he wants. It's the right that you and I served the majority of
>our lives for to maintain whether we agree or not. It's our duty to filter
>through the diatribe based on our own knowledge and experience and respond
>from there.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Mark
>
>If Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go elsewhere.
>
>The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, but not the transmission th
ereof.
>
>Earl
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Hi Clive,
Not so sure about that. I belong to the Corby Starlet Yahoo list and very,
very seldom get any spam, if ever on that list. Never had problems posting
attachments either. Oh, well.
Bernardo
--- On Thu, 9/22/11, James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com> wrote:
From: James, Clive R <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Troll
Pete was always dead against Yahoo as it used to Spamalot, though I never g
ot any, I did notice he=99s been posting on it of late.Matronics you
get spam from the guy who keeps telling you the rules but you can send atta
chments, you can=99t (as yet) do that on Yahoo. =C2-Regards, CliveE
squal Grounded due to hyd lifter engine woesvalves not closing and
so no compression, anyone seen that in their lightning or Esqual?Problem s
eems to be lifters are a bit too keen on taking up the slack =C2
- =C2-From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lig
htning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Melendez, Jr.
Sent: 22 September 2011 16:54
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll =C2-I agree with you, Earl. Please, so
meone more techie than I am, start a Yahoo group. Someone that can monitor
the list.
Bernardo
--- On Thu, 9/22/11, EAFerguson@AOL.COM <EAFerguson@AOL.COM> wrote:
From: EAFerguson@AOL.COM <EAFerguson@AOL.COM>
Subject: Lightning-List: Troll
59:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lightning-list@matronics.com writes:Time:
09:37:49 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Troll
From: mark@flylightning.net
Sorry Earl,
This list doesn't censor like other lists (such as the failed attempt of
the poster to start a Yahoo based group). He has the right to spew as much
bullshit as he wants. It's the right that you and I served the majority of
our lives for to maintain whether we agree or not. It's our duty to filter
through the diatribe based on our own knowledge and experience and respond
from there.
Best regards,
MarkIf Matronics can't or won't police their lists, we need to go elsewhere
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