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1. 05:47 AM - Re: Re: First flight..more (Kayberg@aol.com)
2. 06:38 AM - Re: Re: First flight..more (Greg Hobbs)
3. 07:05 AM - Re: Re: First flight..more (Dennis W. Wilt)
4. 03:19 PM - first flight (Carl and Pat Beatrice)
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Subject: | Re: First flight..more |
This has been a tough one for the Green Landings crew as well. We all
loved Harry and respected the 37,000 hours he had spent in the air during the
course of his 70 years. His flight was witnessed by a number of people,
including the individual whose house he unfortunately hit.
There were no mechanical problems with the plane, it had made several
flights that day and the day before. The wreckage was carefully checked by the
GL crew as a part of the FAA investigation. No problems were noted during
that examination.
My personal pain is that I watched him possible over-rotate on his first
takeoff but perhaps out of respect for the 37,000 hours did not say
anything. It appeared to some that he over-rotated on this second takeoff, got
up
perhaps to 100 feet or so, mushed along and then stalled and rolled left
after flying some distance (500-800 ft) extremely nose-up. Witnesses say
he impacted the foundation of the house after a couple ground strikes.
Of course this is all very preliminary and could be inaccurate. My point
in writing this is that there did not seem to be a design or mechanical
problem. It was determined that the engine was at full power until impacting
the house. However, as Buz and many others have noted, test flying a newly
completed airplane is not an easy task. While Harry had built and flown
a Glassair III with IO-550, cruise of 300 mph, even he noted that the
Lightning did not fly like a Glassair. It flew like a Lightning. He loved the
way it flew after his first flight. I believe this was his second solo
flight. Ryan had done the first flight and several test flights.
Keep the Green Landings folks in your prayers as well. This was a tough
one.
Doug Koenigsberg
In a message dated 10/6/2011 9:33:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gitzie@comcast.net writes:
--> Lightning-List message posted by: "bgsu" <gitzie@comcast.net>
glasair98hw(at)comcast.ne wrote:
> First flight of Lightning N747HW today in West Virginia after 7 months
building . Everything went as planned with no abnormal flight
characteristics and smooth running engine. Thanks to Ryan, Walter, Chris, Curt,
Doug
and Buddy for all their help and advice when needed. This is my second kit.
First was a Glasair III and took 7 years to complete. Looking forward to
many happy hours of flying. I will fly it to Connecticut after the 40 hours
test phase. Harry
http://www.herald-mail.com/news/tristate/hm-pilot-dead-after-hedgesville-cra
sh-20111005,0,4831228.story
Terribly sad...
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Subject: | Re: First flight..more |
Doug, Mark, I am so sorry about your loss. We know how much we grow
to love our pilots and their dreams of flying and continuing to fly. If
there is anything Greg and I can do for you at this time please call us.
We know how hard this is and we will be praying for you all. Crystal
Hobbs (520-405-6868-Greg number-)--- Original Message -----
From: Kayberg@aol.com
To: lightning-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: First flight..more
This has been a tough one for the Green Landings crew as well. We all
loved Harry and respected the 37,000 hours he had spent in the air
during the course of his 70 years. His flight was witnessed by a
number of people, including the individual whose house he unfortunately
hit.
There were no mechanical problems with the plane, it had made several
flights that day and the day before. The wreckage was carefully checked
by the GL crew as a part of the FAA investigation. No problems were
noted during that examination.
My personal pain is that I watched him possible over-rotate on his
first takeoff but perhaps out of respect for the 37,000 hours did not
say anything. It appeared to some that he over-rotated on this second
takeoff, got up perhaps to 100 feet or so, mushed along and then stalled
and rolled left after flying some distance (500-800 ft) extremely
nose-up. Witnesses say he impacted the foundation of the house after a
couple ground strikes.
Of course this is all very preliminary and could be inaccurate. My
point in writing this is that there did not seem to be a design or
mechanical problem. It was determined that the engine was at full power
until impacting the house. However, as Buz and many others have noted,
test flying a newly completed airplane is not an easy task. While
Harry had built and flown a Glassair III with IO-550, cruise of 300 mph,
even he noted that the Lightning did not fly like a Glassair. It flew
like a Lightning. He loved the way it flew after his first flight. I
believe this was his second solo flight. Ryan had done the first
flight and several test flights.
Keep the Green Landings folks in your prayers as well. This was a
tough one.
Doug Koenigsberg
In a message dated 10/6/2011 9:33:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gitzie@comcast.net writes:
glasair98hw(at)comcast.ne wrote:
> First flight of Lightning N747HW today in West Virginia after 7
months building . Everything went as planned with no abnormal flight
characteristics and smooth running engine. Thanks to Ryan, Walter,
Chris, Curt, Doug and Buddy for all their help and advice when needed.
This is my second kit. First was a Glasair III and took 7 years to
complete. Looking forward to many happy hours of flying. I will fly it
to Connecticut after the 40 hours test phase. Harry
http://www.herald-mail.com/news/tristate/hm-pilot-dead-after-hedgesville-
crash-20111005,0,4831228.story
Terribly sad...
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Subject: | Re: First flight..more |
Doug,
Thanks much for the input and know that Donna and I are keeping you, Ryan,
Walter, Buddy, Curt, and Chris in our prayers.
Our sincere condolences,
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Kayberg <Kayberg@aol.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 7, 2011 8:48 am
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: First flight..more
This has been a tough one for the Green Landings crew as well. We all love
d Harry and respected the 37,000 hours he had spent in the air during the c
ourse of his 70 years. His flight was witnessed by a number of people, in
cluding the individual whose house he unfortunately hit.
There were no mechanical problems with the plane, it had made several fligh
ts that day and the day before. The wreckage was carefully checked by the
GL crew as a part of the FAA investigation. No problems were noted during
that examination.
My personal pain is that I watched him possible over-rotate on his first ta
keoff but perhaps out of respect for the 37,000 hours did not say anything.
It appeared to some that he over-rotated on this second takeoff, got up
perhaps to 100 feet or so, mushed along and then stalled and rolled left af
ter flying some distance (500-800 ft) extremely nose-up. Witnesses say he
impacted the foundation of the house after a couple ground strikes.
Of course this is all very preliminary and could be inaccurate. My point i
n writing this is that there did not seem to be a design or mechanical prob
lem. It was determined that the engine was at full power until impacting th
e house. However, as Buz and many others have noted, test flying a newly
completed airplane is not an easy task. While Harry had built and flown a
Glassair III with IO-550, cruise of 300 mph, even he noted that the Lightn
ing did not fly like a Glassair. It flew like a Lightning. He loved the
way it flew after his first flight. I believe this was his second solo fl
ight. Ryan had done the first flight and several test flights.
Keep the Green Landings folks in your prayers as well. This was a tough on
e.
Doug Koenigsberg
In a message dated 10/6/2011 9:33:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gitzie@com
cast.net writes:
glasair98hw(at)comcast.ne wrote:
> First flight of Lightning N747HW today in West Virginia after 7 months bu
ilding . Everything went as planned with no abnormal flight characteristic
s and smooth running engine. Thanks to Ryan, Walter, Chris, Curt, Doug and
Buddy for all their help and advice when needed. This is my second kit. Fi
rst was a Glasair III and took 7 years to complete. Looking forward to many
happy hours of flying. I will fly it to Connecticut after the 40 hours tes
t phase. Harry
http://www.herald-mail.com/news/tristate/hm-pilot-dead-after-hedgesville-cr
ash-20111005,0,4831228.story
Terribly sad...
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Our prayers are with Harry, his family and the crew at Green Landings.
God Bless you all in this difficult time.
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