---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/22/11: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:13 AM - Re: Bleeding Brakes (gary winkler) 2. 05:31 AM - Re: Joe Mathias has slipped the surly bonds of Earth (pequeajim) 3. 07:27 AM - Re: Bleeding Brakes (nick) 4. 10:28 PM - Bleeding Brakes (Geoff Eather) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:33 AM PST US From: gary winkler Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Bleeding Brakes Geoff=2C I used a piece of hose connected to a syrindge and drew (sucked) out the brake fluid from each wheel one at a time making sure the master cy clinder does not go dry. Also=2C I found that if you get the system complet ly bleed the the brakes are very touchy and when trying to add right rudder for take off=2C seems as if the right brake get engaged also. Nick has a w ay of letting the T bar lay back some so when you push on the rudder pedals you are not applying the brakes also. Gary N428GW > From: geather@bigpond.net.au > Subject: Lightning-List: Bleeding Brakes > Date: Tue=2C 22 Nov 2011 18:04:20 +1100 > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > u> > > Group=2C > > What's the trick to bleeding the dual brake system on the Lightning? > > Two attempts today were a failure. I tried "pumping" the fluid in from th e bleed valves. One side (left) seemed to go okay but when the right side w as injected=2C air appeared in the system (both sides!). > > I suspect the problem is that the loops of brake line connecting the two sides are higher than the master cylinder. Is this correct?. > > Any comments would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Geoff Eather (Kit 127) Will be flying in < 2 weeks. (If I can get the bra kes sorted !!) > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:34 AM PST US Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Joe Mathias has slipped the surly bonds of Earth From: "pequeajim" Linda: My thoughts and prayers are with you. While I had only met Joe a very few times, the conversation was always fun, and I was honored to share with him my thoughts about aviation, and get his feedback, and hear a few stories... I am very thankful to Joe for his contributions to aviation, and service to our country. Blessings be with you... Jim Langley Lightning lover and builder... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358794#358794 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:45 AM PST US From: "nick " Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Bleeding Brakes Geoff, Try unbolting the bottom of the master cylinders and rotating them up, so that the MC's are inverted from where they are now. The design of the cylinder keeps a small pocket of air trapped in the end opposite the plunger. Also make sure your brake line goes to the bottom of the caliper as in last months news letter. We bleed from the bottom up and the MC inverted and lines fitted to the bottom of the caliper, seems to work fine this way. Nick Otterback Arion Aircraft LLC -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Eather Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:04 AM Subject: Lightning-List: Bleeding Brakes Group, What's the trick to bleeding the dual brake system on the Lightning? Two attempts today were a failure. I tried "pumping" the fluid in from the bleed valves. One side (left) seemed to go okay but when the right side was injected, air appeared in the system (both sides!). I suspect the problem is that the loops of brake line connecting the two sides are higher than the master cylinder. Is this correct?. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks Geoff Eather (Kit 127) Will be flying in < 2 weeks. (If I can get the brakes sorted !!) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:10 PM PST US From: Geoff Eather Subject: Lightning-List: Bleeding Brakes Gary and Nick, re: Bleeding Brakes Thanks for the advice. I think the problem was the master cylinder (and the "T" connector) below the level of the brake line loops connecting the two sides. When I raised the MC (and the "T" connector) well above the rest of the system there was no problem. 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