---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/20/12: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:39 AM - Re: Oil circuit? (Bob Haas) 2. 04:46 PM - Tow bar (ma55@earthlink.net) 3. 05:09 PM - Re: Tow bar (rick@trickair.com) 4. 05:16 PM - Re: Tow bar (IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:39:18 AM PST US From: "Bob Haas" Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Oil circuit? I use the lower port for my true hobbs meter switch Bob Haas, Lighting. From: James, Clive R Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:39 AM lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Lightning-List: Oil circuit? I=99ll have a go: Sump Pump Sender (original position) Filter port out of crankcase, this is the OCA inlet, Relief valve (bouncing control valve for most engines, flows back to sump) This is from area under OCA or filter if OCA isn=99t fitted. If OCA or TOCA fitted through cooler. With early OCA (drilled bypass) and TOCA some (or all in case of TOCA) bypasses cooler. >From cooler or toca bypass into filter (outside) next out of filter (centre) to feed oil gallery Sender (new position) is on end of gallery The gallery runs the length of the engine and taps off through multiple channels to feed up to mains and prop bearing, from there big ends, small ends, pistons Off the gallery is also tapped the feed to the rockers on those engines, this runs through a transverse pipe and drips onto the valve springs (outlet above each spring) and from there into bottom of rocker boxes where it runs down push rod tubes back into sump (this was an area of much discussion during the mid noughties). And off the gallery is the multiple feed down to the hydraulic lifters which we are learning so much about. From rod (socket) end of lifter it either drips away to sump (better with slotted end to rod) or feeds the: hollow rods up into rockers to rocker shaft (nothing to valve guides apart from mist). All over the moving parts any lost oil will return to the sump. There you go, there is a good drawing in the later manuals, side view of crankcase. I suppose a schematic could be drawn. What did I miss? Regards, Clive From: jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Warren Butler Sent: 20 February 2012 05:11 Subject: RE: [jabiruengines] Re: Ticking noise at start-up. Any ideas? This question may be off topic a bit but I will ask it anyway. Much has been discussed about the =98best=99 oil pressure sender position. Question: Can someone please explain to me the path taken by the oil from the sump, returning back to the sump, with key passage points en-route, such as sender, oil filter, oil cooler, rocker chambers, etc, etc.? That will help me get a better understanding of where the high and low pressure areas are. Warren Butler New Zealand From: mailto:jabiruengines%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:jabiruengines%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sroydsmith Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012 5:58 p.m. Subject: [jabiruengines] Re: Ticking noise at start-up. Any ideas? Bernardo, I moved my oil pressure sender off the engine entirely so it will not wear out with engine vibration. I plugged up the hole where the sender is "normally" located. I feed my sender via a line from the hole just below the "normal" hole. The hole provides pressure information AFTER the filter and the oil cooler. There have been quite a few posts about this on the forum. Steve --- In mailto:jabiruengines%40yahoogroups.com , "Bernard Melendez, Jr." wrote: > > Hi Steve, > What is you "more intelligent" location for the oil pressure sender? Got any pics? Thanks. > Bernardo > > --- On Sun, 2/19/12, sroydsmith wrote: > > From: sroydsmith > Subject: [jabiruengines] Re: Ticking noise at start-up. Any ideas? > To: mailto:jabiruengines%40yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, February 19, 2012, 10:16 AM > > =C3=82 Needless to say, on my new engine I have the oil pressure sender in a more intelligent place. And I will never ignore a ticking sound again. > > > > You live and you learn =C3=A2=82=AC" or you don't. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 02/19/12 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (12) Recent Activity: =C2=B7 New Members 4 =C2=B7 New Photos 12 =C2=B7 New Files 2 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest =A2 Unsubscribe =A2 Terms of Use .. __,_._,___ =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD~=EF=BD=EF=BD,=EF=BD=03g(=EF=BD=EF =BD=EF=BDM=EF=BDGq=EF=BDz=EF=BD=EF=BD ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:00 PM PST US Subject: Lightning-List: Tow bar From: "ma55@earthlink.net" Does anyone have or use a tow-bar for the Lightning? Am unable lift nose, steer, and push back into hangar without assistance. Thanks, Mike N60MY S/N125 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366768#366768 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:59 PM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Tow bar From: rick@trickair.com Push down on the tail and push the plane backwards ------Original Message------ From: ma55@earthlink.net Sender: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Lightning-List: Tow bar Sent: Feb 20, 2012 6:45 PM Does anyone have or use a tow-bar for the Lightning? Am unable lift nose, steer, and push back into hangar without assistance. Thanks, Mike N60MY S/N125 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366768#366768 Sent from my U.S. Cellular BlackBerry smartphone ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:05 PM PST US From: IFLYSMODEL@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Tow bar Yes Mike: I believe there are several with the tow bar attach fittings. I got mine from Bogert Aviation. I drilled and tapped the front wheel yoke for the pins, then drilled the wheel pant in order to accept the tow bar. (_http://bogertaviation.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=garden_f lypage.tpl&product_id=81&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=23_ (http://bogertaviation.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=garden_fl ypage.tpl&product_id=81&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=23) their PN is 04M-PKRVA. Lynn Nelsen In a message dated 2/20/2012 7:46:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ma55@earthlink.net writes: --> Lightning-List message posted by: "ma55@earthlink.net" Does anyone have or use a tow-bar for the Lightning? Am unable lift nose, steer, and push back into hangar without assistance. 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