---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/22/12: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:02 AM - Re: [jabiruengines] More P + M (James, Clive R) 2. 02:25 AM - Re: Oil circuit? (selwyn) 3. 02:27 AM - Re: Re: Oil circuit? (ednan1@AOL.COM) 4. 02:27 AM - Re: Re: [jabiruengines] More P + M (ednan1@AOL.COM) 5. 02:31 AM - Re: Tow bar (ednan1@AOL.COM) 6. 02:33 AM - Re: Tow bar (selwyn) 7. 03:44 AM - Re: Re: Tow bar (ednan1@AOL.COM) 8. 03:48 AM - Re: Re: Oil circuit? (James, Clive R) 9. 06:20 AM - Re: Tow bar (Mark Stauffer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:52 AM PST US Subject: Lightning-List: RE: [jabiruengines] More P + M From: "James, Clive R" TW9ybmluZyBNYXJjIQ0KDQpwYXN0ZSBldmVyeXRoaW5nIGludG8gdGhlIGJyb3dzZXINCg0KYWRk IHRoZSBsaW5lIHRoYXQgd2FzIGJlbG93IHNob3VsZCBlbmQgcGFnZSA2LCB5YWhvbyBzcGxpdCB0 aGUgbGluay4gV29ydGggaGF2aW5nIGEgbG9vayBiYWNrIGF0IHRoZSB3aG9sZSBzdG9yeQ0KDQpB dXN0cmFsaWFuIEphYiBwaWxvdHMgYXJlIHdlbGwgaW5mb3JtZWQgYW5kIG9mIGNvdXJzZSBhbmQg dGhleSBoYXZlIGEgbG90IG1vcmUgZW5naW5lcyB0aGFuIG1vc3QgcGxhY2VzLg0KDQogDQoNCmh0 dHA6Ly93d3cuYWlyY3JhZnRwaWxvdHMuY29tL3RocmVhZHMvcm9sbGVkLXRocmVhZC1lbmdpbmUt dGhyb3VnaC1ib2x0cy1hdmFpbGFibGUtYXMtYWx0ZXJuYXRpdmUuMjc2MjQvcGFnZS02DQoNCiAN Cg0KRnJvbTogamFiaXJ1ZW5naW5lc0B5YWhvb2dyb3Vwcy5jb20gW21haWx0bzpqYWJpcnVlbmdp bmVzQHlhaG9vZ3JvdXBzLmNvbV0gT24gQmVoYWxmIE9mIE1hcmMgQm91cmdldA0KU2VudDogMjIg 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From: "selwyn" Clive, Only bit I would change is "hollow rods up into rockers to rocker shaft (nothing to valve guides apart from mist)." There is a gallery in the rocker from the pushrod "seat" to the upper end above the valve stem so that most of the oil feed ends up emerging from the rocker above the valve stem. The system does not actually have a feed to the rocker shaft as the gallery is cut around the bore of the rocker and covered over by the bush. There is an modification to drill a small hole through the bush to provide an oil path from the gallery directly to the rocker shaft. I could get into the hydraulic lifter discussion but my thought is that it is a bit sterile. Some people have passionate views on the advantages of mechanical vs hydraulic but there are millions upon zillions of these things happily going up and down in cars so I can't see why they wouldn't work in a humble Jabiru. I believe the Jabiru ones come out of a Chev, pretty basic engineering and not terribly touchy. -------- Cheers, Selwyn Kit 66 VH-ELZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366933#366933 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: Oil circuit? From: ednan1@AOL.COM I'm not interested in the Lightning anymore. tks -----Original Message----- From: selwyn Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 5:25 am Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Oil circuit? Clive, Only bit I would change is "hollow rods up into rockers to rocker shaft (no thing o valve guides apart from mist)." There is a gallery in the rocker from the pushrod "seat" to the upper end a bove he valve stem so that most of the oil feed ends up emerging from the rocke r bove the valve stem. The system does not actually have a feed to the rocke r haft as the gallery is cut around the bore of the rocker and covered over b y he bush. There is an modification to drill a small hole through the bush t o rovide an oil path from the gallery directly to the rocker shaft. I could get into the hydraulic lifter discussion but my thought is that it is a it sterile. Some people have passionate views on the advantages of mechani cal s hydraulic but there are millions upon zillions of these things happily go ing p and down in cars so I can't see why they wouldn't work in a humble Jabiru . I elieve the Jabiru ones come out of a Chev, pretty basic engineering and no t erribly touchy. -------- heers, Selwyn it 66 VH-ELZ ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366933#366933 -= - The Lightning-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: RE: [jabiruengines] More P + M From: ednan1@AOL.COM I'm not interested in the Jabiruengine anymore. tks -----Original Message----- From: James, Clive R g-list@matronics.com> Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 3:03 am Subject: Lightning-List: RE: [jabiruengines] More P + M Morning Marc! paste everything into the browser add the line that was below should end page 6, yahoo split the link. Worth having a look back at the whole story Australian Jab pilots are well informed and of course and they have a lot m ore engines than most places. http://www.aircraftpilots.com/threads/rolled-thread-engine-through-bolts-av ailable-as-alternative.27624/page-6 From: jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:jabiruengines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Bourget Sent: 22 February 2012 07:42 Subject: Re: [jabiruengines] More P + M Clive, Good Morning! (Your time!) I tried the link and got: Aircraft Pilots - Error The requested page could not be found. Help? Marc ________________________________ From: "James, Clive R" Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:21 PM Subject: [jabiruengines] More P + M http://www.aircraftpilots.com/threads/rolled-thread-engine-through-bolts -available-as-alternative.27624/page-6 Some well put points here with both camps represented. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (2) Recent Activity: =C2=B7 New Members 4 =C2=B7 New Photos 5 =C2=B7 New Files 2 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest =A2 Unsubscribe =A2 Terms of Use .. __,_._,___ =EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD~=EF=BD=EF=BD,=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD% =EF=BD=EF=BDM4=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDx=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD =EF=BDw=EF=BDr=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:19 AM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Tow bar From: ednan1@AOL.COM I'm not interested in the lightning anymore. tks -----Original Message----- From: Bernard Melendez, Jr. Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 4:28 pm Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Tow bar Schmart them Chinese! Very nice ... and easy, too! Bernardo --- On Tue, 2/21/12, GARY BARNETT wrote: From: GARY BARNETT Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Tow bar Mike Build a small wooden platform with a retangular hole in it to accept the fr ont tire up to about the rim (below the wheel pant). Put four castor wheel s on the bottom of the platform. Make a small wooden ramp with two latches to attach it temporarily to the platform. Grab the prop and pull the fron t wheel up the ramp and let it drop into the hole. Remove the ramp and you can push the plane any direction you want from the prop or cowel. When yo u get it into position push down on the tail and swing the nose wheel off t he platform. Remove the platform and swing the nose wheel back into your p arking position. If you want a picture send your email address and I will forward it to you . Gary N335AL Sn 133 > Subject: Lightning-List: Tow bar > From: ma55@earthlink.net > Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:45:05 -0800 > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > k.net> > > Does anyone have or use a tow-bar for the Lightning? Am unable lift nose, steer, and push back into hangar without assistance. > > Thanks, > Mike > N60MY S/N125 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366768#366768 > > > > > > httt; http://www.matronics.com/contrib============ == -= - The Lightning-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:33:18 AM PST US Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Tow bar From: "selwyn" I must have missed something here, I can't see how placing the nosewheel on a platform with casters will make it roll backwards any more nicely than it does at present. Is there a steering bar in there somewhere? -------- Cheers, Selwyn Kit 66 VH-ELZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366941#366941 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Re: Tow bar From: ednan1@AOL.COM I'm not interested in the lightning anymore. tks -----Original Message----- From: selwyn Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 5:33 am Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Tow bar I must have missed something here, I can't see how placing the nosewheel on a latform with casters will make it roll backwards any more nicely than it do es t present. Is there a steering bar in there somewhere? -------- heers, Selwyn it 66 VH-ELZ ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366941#366941 -= - The Lightning-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:46 AM PST US Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Re: Oil circuit? From: "James, Clive R" Thanks Selwyn I stand corrected though the mod is what I have would expected it to be like. I right in thinking nothing much goes to the valve stem? Regards, Clive -----Original Message----- From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of selwyn Sent: 22 February 2012 10:24 Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Oil circuit? --> Clive, Only bit I would change is "hollow rods up into rockers to rocker shaft (nothing to valve guides apart from mist)." There is a gallery in the rocker from the pushrod "seat" to the upper end above the valve stem so that most of the oil feed ends up emerging from the rocker above the valve stem. The system does not actually have a feed to the rocker shaft as the gallery is cut around the bore of the rocker and covered over by the bush. There is an modification to drill a small hole through the bush to provide an oil path from the gallery directly to the rocker shaft. I could get into the hydraulic lifter discussion but my thought is that it is a bit sterile. Some people have passionate views on the advantages of mechanical vs hydraulic but there are millions upon zillions of these things happily going up and down in cars so I can't see why they wouldn't work in a humble Jabiru. I believe the Jabiru ones come out of a Chev, pretty basic engineering and not terribly touchy. -------- Cheers, Selwyn Kit 66 VH-ELZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366933#366933 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:19 AM PST US From: "Mark Stauffer" Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Tow bar To ednan1@aol.com You need to go the Matronics web site and remove yourself from the list. No of us on this list have the ability to do that. Best regards, Mark From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ednan1@AOL.COM Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:31 AM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Tow bar I'm not interested in the lightning anymore. tks -----Original Message----- From: Bernard Melendez, Jr. Sent: Tue, Feb 21, 2012 4:28 pm Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Tow bar Schmart them Chinese! Very nice ... and easy, too! Bernardo --- On Tue, 2/21/12, GARY BARNETT wrote: From: GARY BARNETT Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Tow bar Mike Build a small wooden platform with a retangular hole in it to accept the front tire up to about the rim (below the wheel pant). Put four castor wheels on the bottom of the platform. Make a small wooden ramp with two latches to attach it temporarily to the platform. Grab the prop and pull the front wheel up the ramp and let it drop into the hole. Remove the ramp and you can push the plane any direction you want from the prop or cowel. When you get it into position push down on the tail and swing the nose wheel off the platform. Remove the platform and swing the nose wheel back into your parking position. If you want a picture send your email address and I will forward it to you . Gary N335AL Sn 133 > Subject: Lightning-List: Tow bar > From: ma55@earthlink.net > Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:45:05 -0800 > To: lightning-list@matronics.com > > > Does anyone have or use a tow-bar for the Lightning? Am unable lift nose, steer, and push back into hangar without assistance. > > Thanks, > Mike > N60MY S/N125 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366768#366768 > > > > > > httt; http://www.matronics.com/contrib============== " target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List p://forums.matronics.com blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message lightning-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Lightning-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/lightning-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/lightning-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.