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     1. 09:19 AM - Re: Esqual Stability (Dave Mccorquodale)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:19:25 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Mccorquodale" <corky@hbci.com>
    Subject: Re: Esqual Stability
    Hi Clive It is always a pleasure reading your posts. As you know I also have an Esqual with many changes done. I have purchaced a Lightning cowl a couple of years ago, I have not cut it down to fit because I to thought about the longer engine mount. How much did it help moving the engine forward. I have a top over haul just around the corner and was thinking of making the change then.. Also was the mount spendy? When my mount was built it was 2 degrees off so my engine is aiming up 2 degrees of center line. Having an engine inline and weight more forward would have to help Keep up the good work Dave McCorquodale ----- Original Message ----- From: James, Clive R To: lightning-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:30 PM Subject: Lightning-List: Esqual Stability Hi Luigi, I am good. The weather in the UK has finally improved and I=99ve been doing some good flying. Back offshore now in the North sea and hoping the weather will still have some summer in it when I get back next time. Mostly the flying was in the Jabiru as the Esqual is still on a test permit and so cannot go further than 25miles past 3 airfields on the East side of England (still 60 miles to play in). The changes I made for the stability were: New engine mount from Arion that moved the engine forward 18mm (I had to buy new cowlings but I wanted the Lightning ones for the cooling anyway). Nick recommended I tip the front of the tail plane down by 3/16=9D, this was about 3 degrees and I managed to get that movement by lifting the back. I fitted a new =98flap type=99 trim tab with electric servo and removed the bungee trim, this was a Lightning retrofit kit trim kit though I did make the flap a bit bigger. During the test flying I limited the flap travel to 22 degrees to help with the trim on approach (as mentioned in the kit planes article for the Lighting which was interesting). It was still too heavy under a FWD C of G so when the evaluation flying was being done for the LAA it was limited some more. Now at 16 degrees max flap it is hands off on approach unless it is solo with low fuel. Minimum stall is still 35 knots All round much nicer to fly but still very sporty. The flight test report was done by an independent test pilot but he was very happy and has sent a positive recommendation. The flight test was to CS-VLA (you can find that on the net). It was great fun as I was the =98talking ballast=99 I really saw what the plane could do. I am just waiting to get feedback on that report and hope to have a full PoF soon. I will send you the report directly. The picture is the test pilot about to do the solo sortie. He was mega experienced, graduate of the Empire Test Pilot program, many years ago now as he is 83. I hope I can still fly like he does when I=99m that age. I trust all is well in Italy and you are flying your Esqual regularly (after you pay your luxury tax to the idiots in charge!). Best Regards, Clive From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of luigi di napoli Sent: 07 August 2012 19:40 To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Kitplanes September Issue Hi Clive, how are you ? I read about the Esqual stability and I am curious to know which improvements the Esqual needs. Did you calculate a good C&G to improve the phugoid ? And what about the max flap setting ? I remember that you, some time ago, sent a mail with something inherent but forgot it. Do you have any news ? And what about the PoF for your bird ? Waiting your news best regards and enjoy your vacation. Luigi ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Da: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com> A: lightning-list@matronics.com Inviato: Marted=C3=AC 7 Agosto 2012 20:05 Oggetto: RE: Lightning-List: Kitplanes September Issue Still in your debt for the fix on the Esqual ! Permit is getting closer but not yet got my hands on it. Regards, Clive From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick Otterback Sent: 07 August 2012 18:57 To: lightning-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Kitplanes September Issue Thanks for the kind words. The company is not mine it is Petes. We are partners along with a few other investors. Pete simply allows me the freedom to further design as needed. Thanks Nick Sent from my pocket On Aug 7, 2012, at 11:53 AM, "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com> wrote: Reads well, as someone who has gone through the stability and trim issues with the Esqual I can appreciate the improvements. So now the Esqual is Swedish? And you didn=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t crack a mould off the fuselage? What=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s that smell? I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ll bet Francesc is turning is his grave. Good to see you aren=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t sitting on your hands, and nice to see Pete gave you the company! 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