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     1. 01:37 PM - Flap limit (luigi di napoli)
     2. 03:17 PM - Re: Esqual Stability (James, Clive R)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:37:35 PM PST US
    From: luigi di napoli <elledien@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Flap limit
    Ciao Cleve,=0AThe picture of the switch.=0AThe screw allows to adjust the m otor travel.=0AThe accident with Bruno had no official response.=0AThe comm on convinction is the flight in a day with a very strong wind (more than 40 Kts). More than one on the airfield advised them against to fly that day. =0AThe intention to show the handling characteristic of the plane to a poss ible buyer, at low speed, led the two pilot, both without a great experienc e, to fly downwind at very low airspeed.=0AThe inexperience of the co-pilot on that machine, the will to sell the plane , the low height, the sum of a ll, made the rest.=0ACiao=0ALuigi=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________________ __=0A Da: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>=0AA: lightning-list@matr onics.com =0AInviato: Gioved=C3=AC 6 Settembre 2012 8:55=0AOggetto: RE: Lig htning-List: Flap setting-adjusting max flap travel?=0A =0A=0AThanks Luigi, A picture would be great, the rods are very close to the central beam brac ings so I=99d like to hold the actuator back a small amount.=0A=C2- =0ACertainly 38 degrees (I think it was) of flap needs using with care and knowledge of the implications. Pitch up on go around was horrible and the s tick didn=99t do much to the pitch.=0AWe must remember the accident w ith Bruno, was that ever explained by the investigation?=0A=C2-=0ARegards , Clive=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:o wner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of luigi di napoli=0ASe nt: 05 September 2012 21:59=0ATo: lightning-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: R e: Lightning-List: Flap setting-adjusting max flap travel?=0A=C2-=0AThank you , Clive.=0AMore or less the amount I calculate to be correct.=0AYester day I checked it and should be 11 degrees.The full travel is around 40 degr ees. I believe 20/22 degrees is more than enough to land safely=0AIn case o f go-around, with 40 of flap, should be very dangerous to forget the flap d own (or in case of failure to retract) because the stabilizer may suffer th e shadow of the wing and became inoperative. Situation not very good.=0AFor the limit of travel, I opened a similar actuator and, inside, there are tw o screws which allow to adjust the travel of the motor moving the switches .=0ATomorrow I'll try to find the old actuator and take a picture.=0ACiao, =0ALuigi=0A=C2-=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0ADa:"James, Cli ve R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>=0AA: lightning-list@matronics.com =0AInviato: Mercoled=C3=AC 5 Settembre 2012 21:47=0AOggetto: RE: Lightning-List: Flap setting-adjusting max flap travel?=0A=C2-=0AHi Luigi, on My Esqual (great big flap model) I use 10 degrees for take-off, maybe a little less.=0A=C2 -=0AA question: Is there a way of limiting the maximum flap travel electr ically? Within the motor unit? Anyone had one apart?=0AThanks, Clive=0A=C2 -=0ARegards=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com [ma ilto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of luigi di napol i=0ASent: 04 September 2012 08:11=0ATo: lightning-list@matronics.com=0ASubj ect: Lightning-List: Flap setting=0A=C2-=0AHello everybody,=0Aon the Esqu al POH I found different instructions about the setting of flap for take-of f.=0AIf the setting for landing is well described from Clive and others, wi th all the problems arising with the trim, setting the flap at full travel, is there any info=0Aconcerning the approximate setting for take-off ?=0ATh e Esqual manual says "between 20 and 30 degrees". =C2-I believe this is n ot right.=0AAny one experienced =C2-different setting ? With the behaviou r of the plane in this condition.=0AThanks=0ALuigi=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2 -=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List=0Ahttp://forums.mat ronics.com=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Aank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List">http://www.rel ="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com/">ht= ========================0A:// www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A=C2 -=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List =0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A =================


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    Time: 03:17:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Esqual Stability
    From: "James, Clive R" <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
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