---------------------------------------------------------- Lightning-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/15/12: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:34 AM - Re: Thoughts and reasons for the Evoution of a Design. (Nick Otterback) 2. 01:40 PM - Re: Thoughts and reasons for the Evoution of a Design. (N1BZRich@AOL.COM) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:36 AM PST US Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Thoughts and reasons for the Evoution of a Design. From: Nick Otterback Strakes clean up airflow and direct it where you want if you have a airstrea m problem around the fuse or elsewhere. Yes the biproduct is slightly better stability and low speed handling. For the purpose we were aiming at a large r tail and constant cord airfoil was really the answer. Nick Sent from my pocket On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:15 PM, "Bernard Melendez, Jr." wrot e: > Hi Nick, > Some designers solve this problem by using strakes at the leading edge of t he horizontal tail, I believe. I suppose if someone feels their tail needs m ore authority, they may consider this method too. Food for thought. > Bernardo > Kit #110 > > --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Nick Otterback wrote: > > From: Nick Otterback > Subject: Lightning-List: Thoughts and reasons for the Evoution of a Design .. > To: Lightning-list@matronics.com > Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 3:12 PM > > Group, > > > > I have been getting a lot of emails and questions about the MK2 horizontal tail since it was released. Mostly these are one on one conversations on th e phone or at airshows. I thought I would write those down for someone to r ead if they wanted. I am sure this will stir some more questions and that is great I always like talking planes, and the Lightning the most. I think thi s forum is the best place for it. > > > > Please keep in mind, I am not an English major, I think most anyone who ha s read the build manual knows that, but it gets the job done. These are just my thoughts on it, hopefully in an organized manner. > > > > Also I hope everyone has had a Chance to Read the Kit Planes September 201 2 article. It basically sums up what I have written from a Marc Cook. > > > > Our Mark has said it is possible to post this article to the Facebook page . I am also going to get it up on the web site as well so it does not get lo st. > > > > As promised we have designed a set of tail cuffs for those wanting to upgr ade. We should have several sets in our shop by the middle of next week for a nyone wanting to have that installation done for them. > > I am writing an install guide for the cuffs. I should have it done next we ek and posted for those wanting to do it at home. > > > > Thanks > > > > Nick Otterback > > Arion Aircraft LLC > > R&D Technical Support > > 931-680-1781 > > nick@flylightning.net > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:40:53 PM PST US From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Thoughts and reasons for the Evoution of a Design. Nick, Excellent rundown on the new evolutionary stabilizer for the Light Sport Lightning. It will help a lot of people understand the Arion business philosophy of having the best possible product in terms of performance, handling characteristics, economy, and obviously looks. Yes, I still think the Lightning is the best looking aircraft available either for the Light Sport market or the EAB market. Keep up the great work. But for past and future customers, please don't think that this stabilizer change is to "solve a problem". I think Nick was very clear in his article. This design change is evolutionary. If you are used to flying airplanes with a sporty feel that are very responsive, you probably really like the way the original Lightning flies. I know I do. But if you would prefer a more conventional feel and response rate, then you might think about modifying your Lightning to this new stabilizer. I have not flown the new demo Lightning with the new stab yet, but I look forward to flying it just before the annual Lightning Homecoming and Fly-In on the weekend of 6 October. Heck, it is the only Lightning version that I haven't flown - so far. From the very first Lightning wing on an Esqual fuselage (the Frankensqual), then the original Lightning prototype, and since then every demo experimental and Light Sport Lightning they have built, I've had the extreme pleasure of flying them all. And I'm convinced it is one super airplane. Blue Skies, Buz PS: Hope to see everyone at SYI for the Lightning Fly-In in three weeks. On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:15 PM, "Bernard Melendez, Jr." <_n45bm@yahoo.com_ (mailto:n45bm@yahoo.com) > wrote: Hi Nick, Some designers solve this problem by using strakes at the leading edge of the horizontal tail, I believe. I suppose if someone feels their tail needs more authority, they may consider this method too. Food for thought. Bernardo Kit #110 --- On Fri, 9/14/12, Nick Otterback <_nick@flylightning.net_ (mailto:nick@flylightning.net) > wrote: From: Nick Otterback <_nick@flylightning.net_ (mailto:nick@flylightning.net) > Subject: Lightning-List: Thoughts and reasons for the Evoution of a Design. Group, I have been getting a lot of emails and questions about the MK2 horizontal tail since it was released. Mostly these are one on one conversations on the phone or at airshows. I thought I would write those down for someone to read if they wanted. I am sure this will stir some more questions and that is great I always like talking planes, and the Lightning the most. I think this forum is the best place for it. Please keep in mind, I am not an English major, I think most anyone who has read the build manual knows that, but it gets the job done. These are just my thoughts on it, hopefully in an organized manner. Also I hope everyone has had a Chance to Read the Kit Planes September 2012 article. It basically sums up what I have written from a Marc Cook. Our Mark has said it is possible to post this article to the Facebook page. I am also going to get it up on the web site as well so it does not get lost. As promised we have designed a set of tail cuffs for those wanting to upgrade. We should have several sets in our shop by the middle of next week for anyone wanting to have that installation done for them. I am writing an install guide for the cuffs. I should have it done next week and posted for those wanting to do it at home. 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