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1. 06:43 AM - Re: Auto fuel in the Lightning. (Nick Otterback)
2. 06:51 AM - Latest Lightning Newsletter (N1BZRich@AOL.COM)
3. 07:08 AM - Re: Auto fuel in the Lightning. (Bernard Melendez, Jr.)
4. 11:29 AM - Re: Latest Lightning Newsletter (Bob Haas)
5. 11:49 AM - news letter (Tex Mantell)
6. 02:25 PM - Re: Latest Lightning Newsletter (Linda Mathias)
7. 04:50 PM - Re: Latest Lightning Newsletter (Dwwilt)
8. 06:38 PM - Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing (Bill Strahan)
9. 07:27 PM - Re: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing (Bernard Melendez, Jr.)
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| Subject: | Auto fuel in the Lightning. |
Clive,
Not sure how to spell that either, but we have thought about plastic tanks
In the past. The only reason thus far not to pursue is it the tank fittings.
I know this has been done for years with ultralights but I just have not had
good experience with the fittings. We actually built 3 esquals with plastic
tanks over here in the states.
The fittings for fuel pick up and drains were prone to leaking as was the
fuel sending unit hole. But certainly would never have a problem with auto
fuel.
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft LLC
R&D Technical Support
931-680-1781
nick@flylightning.net
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[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Clive
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Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:07 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Auto fuel in the Lightning.
--> <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
Metal tanks is a good solution Nick, not an option for a Jabiru wing tank
though.
Good point about the 'other' additives and any alcohol proof sloshing
sealer.
Have you considered a 'polythene' type moulded solution for the tank
material? (not sure what they are actually made of).
Regards, Clive
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Cookson
Sent: 20 March 2013 08:36
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Auto fuel in the Lightning.
--> <richardcoo@yahoo.com>
Thanks for this message Nick
The addition of metal fuel tanks will certainly be an advantage for us
owners and pilots in foreign countries where Avgas 100/130 is becoming more
and more a rare commodity, gradually becoming available at the major
airports only.
Auto fuel is an option with unleaded 93 or 98 octane fuel available.
Fortunately down-under the prominence of alcohol additive hasn't had the
same market penetration as it has in the US, for a range of reasons, the
least of which being the lower calorific output of alcohol versus mineral
fuels. Not to say we haven't had our share of questionable additives such an
benzene and a few others who's names I struggle with.
Always appreciate your input on these important matters and trust you're
back to health.
Kind regards
Rich Cookson
Wellington, NZ
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| Subject: | Latest Lightning Newsletter |
Lightning community,
As I promised a while back, the latest Lightning Newsletter, "Hangar
Talk", Issue 6-1 is attached in PDF file format for everyone to download and
read. If for some reason you can not download it, Nick will soon have in
published on the Lightning Web site along with the other past newsletters
at: (_http://flylightning.net/Newsletters.htm_
(http://flylightning.net/Newsletters.htm) ).
This is the first newsletter to be published in over a year, so there
is a lot of news to cover, especially news from the factory. Also covered
are the recent Sebring Light Sport Expo, some photos from last year's
Lightning Homecoming, news from builders and flyers, reader feedback, upcoming
events (like Sun N Fun), Safety, tech tips, Lightning skunk works, and a few
other items. I hope everyone enjoys this issue.
I agreed to write this newsletter to help out the factory guys since
they are way too busy to publish a newsletter on a regular basis. This will
be the 37 issue that I have produced, the original 36 issues starting back
in Feb 2008 were fun and allowed me to meet lots of the Lightning
community. However, we need someone else to volunteer to take over the newsletter
position. The only required qualification is that you be interested in the
Lightning and want to share the info you get from the factory and other
readers with the rest of the Lightning community. You will enjoy the
experience and the chance to share information with lots of interesting people.
Please give it some consideration and contact me or Nick and Mark at the
factory.
I hope to see many of you at Sun N Fun - about two weeks away.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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| Subject: | Auto fuel in the Lightning. |
Some of the Sonex line have issues with fuel tank leaks in the plastic/fitt
ings connections too. It's spelled "polyethylene", BTW.
Bernardo
--- On Mon, 3/25/13, Nick Otterback <nick@flylightning.net> wrote:
From: Nick Otterback <nick@flylightning.net>
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Auto fuel in the Lightning.
et>
Clive,
Not sure how to spell that either, but we have thought about plastic tanks
In the past. The only reason thus far not to pursue is it the tank fittings
.
I know this has been done for years with ultralights but I just have not ha
d
good experience with the fittings. We actually built 3 esquals with plastic
tanks over here in the states.
The fittings for fuel pick up and drains were prone to leaking as was the
fuel sending unit hole.- But certainly would never have a problem with au
to
fuel.
Nick Otterback
Arion Aircraft LLC
R&D Technical Support
931-680-1781
nick@flylightning.net
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From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James, Cliv
e
R
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:07 PM
Subject: RE: Lightning-List: Auto fuel in the Lightning.
--> <clive.james@uk.bp.com>
Metal tanks is a good solution Nick, not an option for a Jabiru wing tank
though.
Good point about the 'other' additives and any alcohol proof sloshing
sealer.
Have you considered a 'polythene' type- moulded solution for the tank
material? (not sure what they are actually made of).
Regards, Clive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-lightning-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Cookson
Sent: 20 March 2013 08:36
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Auto fuel in the Lightning.
--> <richardcoo@yahoo.com>
Thanks for this message Nick
The addition of metal fuel tanks will certainly be an advantage for us
owners and pilots in foreign countries where Avgas 100/130 is becoming more
and more a rare commodity, gradually becoming available at the major
airports only.
Auto fuel is an option with unleaded 93 or 98 octane fuel available.
Fortunately down-under the prominence of alcohol additive hasn't had the
same market penetration as it has in the US, for a range of reasons, the
least of which being the lower calorific output of alcohol versus mineral
fuels. Not to say we haven't had our share of questionable additives such a
n
benzene and a few others who's names I struggle with.
Always appreciate your input on these important matters and trust you're
back to health.
Kind regards
Rich Cookson
Wellington, NZ
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| Subject: | Re: Latest Lightning Newsletter |
Best News Letter of the year! As every one is asking, where can
I get a horizontal stabilizer kit, when and how much? If the wind would
slow down
a bit I wouldn=99t have so much cross wind landing practice. Bob
Haas, S/N 071 N330BH.
From: N1BZRich@AOL.COM
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:50 AM
Subject: Lightning-List: Latest Lightning Newsletter
Lightning community,
As I promised a while back, the latest Lightning Newsletter, "Hangar
Talk", Issue 6-1 is attached in PDF file format for everyone to download
and read. If for some reason you can not download it, Nick will soon
have in published on the Lightning Web site along with the other past
newsletters at: (http://flylightning.net/Newsletters.htm).
This is the first newsletter to be published in over a year, so
there is a lot of news to cover, especially news from the factory. Also
covered are the recent Sebring Light Sport Expo, some photos from last
year's Lightning Homecoming, news from builders and flyers, reader
feedback, upcoming events (like Sun N Fun), Safety, tech tips, Lightning
skunk works, and a few other items. I hope everyone enjoys this issue.
I agreed to write this newsletter to help out the factory guys since
they are way too busy to publish a newsletter on a regular basis. This
will be the 37 issue that I have produced, the original 36 issues
starting back in Feb 2008 were fun and allowed me to meet lots of the
Lightning community. However, we need someone else to volunteer to take
over the newsletter position. The only required qualification is that
you be interested in the Lightning and want to share the info you get
from the factory and other readers with the rest of the Lightning
community. You will enjoy the experience and the chance to share
information with lots of interesting people. Please give it some
consideration and contact me or Nick and Mark at the factory.
I hope to see many of you at Sun N Fun - about two weeks away.
Blue Skies,
Buz
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I Just read the latest news letter from Buz. All I can say is
"fantastic".Great job Buz and wish you could continue. I know its really
time consuming and no pay. Your efforts over the years is greatly
appreciated. Again thanks .
TEX
P.S. I'll buy you a beer at Sun & fun
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| Subject: | Re: Latest Lightning Newsletter |
Buz,
Another great newsletter! I admit that I skipped over the reports
from Clive, Bernardo, and a couple others but the information you provided
was great. I finally got the Cub back to AKQ and the Lightning back to FKN
on Saturday. We are still looking for a Scott 2000 tailwheel in good
shape if you happen to hear of one. A couple of people at the breakfast
on Saturday said they might have one and are looking. The price and the
exorbitant backorder time (40 weeks) has killed our plan to buy one from
Aircraft Spruce or Univair.
Linda
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <N1BZRich@aol.com> wrote:
> **
> *Lightning community,*
> * As I promised a while back, the latest Lightning Newsletter, "Hangar
> Talk", Issue 6-1 is attached in PDF file format for everyone to download
> and read. If for some reason you can not download it, Nick will soon have
> in published on the Lightning Web site along with the other past
> newsletters at: (**http://flylightning.net/Newsletters.htm*<http://flylightning.net/Newsletters.htm>
> *). *
> * This is the first newsletter to be published in over a year, so
> there is a lot of news to cover, especially news from the factory. Also
> covered are the recent Sebring Light Sport Expo, some photos from last
> year's Lightning Homecoming, news from builders and flyers, reader
> feedback, upcoming events (like Sun N Fun), Safety, tech tips, Lightning
> skunk works, and a few other items. I hope everyone enjoys this issue. *
> *I agreed to write this newsletter to help out the factory guys since
> they are way too busy to publish a newsletter on a regular basis. This
> will be the 37 issue that I have produced, the original 36 issues starting
> back in Feb 2008 were fun and allowed me to meet lots of the Lightning
> community. However, we need someone else to volunteer to take over the
> newsletter position. The only required qualification is that you be
> interested in the Lightning and want to share the info you get from the
> factory and other readers with the rest of the Lightning community. You
> will enjoy the experience and the chance to share information with lots of
> interesting people. Please give it some consideration and contact me
> or Nick and Mark at the factory. *
> *I hope to see many of you at Sun N Fun - about two weeks away. *
> *Blue Skies,*
> *Buz*
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Latest Lightning Newsletter |
Sorry I didn't get you any information on my Spar Box replacement, but I am s
till working on it. I finally pulled the wings last week. This week I inte
nd to pull the gear and then the spar box. I am still waiting on my seat ra
ils (my side rails were glassed in) that are supposed to be drop shipped.
I hope they show up soon. I had to build a wing cradle and now I need to b
uild a table to align the gear in the new spar box like you show in the news
letter. I think it will take me as long or longer to do this repair than it
took me to build the plane at Green Landings.
Blue Skies,
Dennis W. Wilt
N616DW (Arion Lightning S/N 132)
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:50 AM, N1BZRich@aol.com wrote:
> Lightning community,
> As I promised a while back, the latest Lightning Newsletter, "Hangar T
alk", Issue 6-1 is attached in PDF file format for everyone to download and r
ead. If for some reason you can not download it, Nick will soon have in pub
lished on the Lightning Web site along with the other past newsletters at: (
http://flylightning.net/Newsletters.htm).
> This is the first newsletter to be published in over a year, so there i
s a lot of news to cover, especially news from the factory. Also covered ar
e the recent Sebring Light Sport Expo, some photos from last year's Lightnin
g Homecoming, news from builders and flyers, reader feedback, upcoming event
s (like Sun N Fun), Safety, tech tips, Lightning skunk works, and a few othe
r items. I hope everyone enjoys this issue.
> I agreed to write this newsletter to help out the factory guys since t
hey are way too busy to publish a newsletter on a regular basis. This will b
e the 37 issue that I have produced, the original 36 issues starting back in
Feb 2008 were fun and allowed me to meet lots of the Lightning community. H
owever, we need someone else to volunteer to take over the newsletter positi
on. The only required qualification is that you be interested in the Light
ning and want to share the info you get from the factory and other readers w
ith the rest of the Lightning community. You will enjoy the experience and t
he chance to share information with lots of interesting people. Please give
it some consideration and contact me or Nick and Mark at the factory.
> I hope to see many of you at Sun N Fun - about two weeks away.
> Blue Skies,
> Buz
>
> <Newsletter 6-1.pdf>
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| Subject: | Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing |
Here's what I'm now using to balance.
http://youtu.be/urAY_g2gmGM
How cool is that?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397056#397056
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| Subject: | Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing |
Tower Hobbies (and others) sells a magnetic model airplane prop balancer -
same principle. Could be up-sized to balance our big Lightning props too. W
hy not? All you need is bigger magnets,
Bernardo
--- On Mon, 3/25/13, Bill Strahan <bill@gdsx.com> wrote:
From: Bill Strahan <bill@gdsx.com>
Subject: Lightning-List: Re: Unorthodox Tire Balancing
Here's what I'm now using to balance.
http://youtu.be/urAY_g2gmGM
How cool is that?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=397056#397056
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