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1. 09:26 AM - Lightning Jet empty weight (George Andre)
2. 09:37 AM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Dennis W. Wilt)
3. 10:09 AM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Nick Otterback)
4. 03:08 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (geather)
5. 03:32 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Max Voronin)
6. 05:27 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Linda Mathias)
7. 05:55 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Nick Otterback)
8. 05:57 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (ritchie@wave.co.nz)
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| Subject: | Lightning Jet empty weight |
I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weight
for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipp
ed,-comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my
scales (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.=0A=0AGeorge Andre
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Jet empty weight |
George,
My plane came in at 886 lbs.
Regards,
Dennis W. Wilt, Aviation Consultant
Communications, Navigation, and Surveillance Subject Matter Expert
Program and Project Management
757-784-8113
N616DW (Arion Lightning S/N 132)
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From: George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sat, Jul 19, 2014 12:27 pm
Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weight
for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipp
ed, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my s
cales (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
George Andre
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Jet empty weight |
George,
What's your empty weight? And did you re weigh after the chute came out?
Nick
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 19, 2014, at 11:26 AM, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weigh
t for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as o
pposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balance
papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipped,
comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my scale
s (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>
> George Andre
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Jet empty weight |
400 Kg (882 lbs). Kit 127
Geoff Eather (Aust)
> On 20 Jul 2014, at 2:26 am, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weigh
t for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as o
pposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balance
papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipped,
comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my scale
s (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>
> George Andre
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Jet empty weight |
The one I built ended up around 820 lbs if I remember right
Epoxy primer and paint, no clear coat
S/n 93
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 19, 2014, at 6:07 PM, geather <geather@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
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> 400 Kg (882 lbs). Kit 127
>
> Geoff Eather (Aust)
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>> On 20 Jul 2014, at 2:26 am, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weig
ht for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equippe
d, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my sca
les (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>
>> George Andre
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Jet empty weight |
George,
My Lightning's empty wt is 883 lbs and has a fully IFR panel with glass c
ockpit.
Linda Mathias
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 19, 2014, at 12:26 PM, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weigh
t for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as o
pposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balance
papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipped,
comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my scale
s (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>
> George Andre
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Jet empty weight |
Our first demo 323AL was 830lbs, single EFIS no AP wood prop ect. N324AL was
850 with dual EFIS, AP, long wings ect. Generally around 820lbs very basic,
to 900 loaded with everything. Our scales are digital racing scales and we w
eigh the planes in full dress with oil and no fuel. Have posted several PICs
on FB of them on scales. The heaviest yet was the XS with the lycoming O320
and it was 1013 lbs.
The planes with the EAB gear are lighter, the wide track gear weighs 13lbs m
ore, Carbon props are about 5lbs heavier than wood. The interiors from B&B A
re extremely nice but are heavy as well. steps weigh 3lbs a side.
Over the years from the early SN to newer ones the airframes lost weight. Th
e fuselages used to weigh around 115lbs now they are about 105lbs, wing pane
ls were about 90lbs and now around 75lbs. Same win small parts ect. We have c
hanged cores resins and layup schedules to produce lighter parts while retai
ning strength.
It seems the biggest weight gain is the advancement in avionics and all the s
tuff you can stick in a plane.
Nick
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 19, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Linda Mathias <lbmathias1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> George,
> My Lightning's empty wt is 883 lbs and has a fully IFR panel with glas
s cockpit.
> Linda Mathias
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 12:26 PM, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weig
ht for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equippe
d, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my sca
les (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>
>> George Andre
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Jet empty weight |
My lightning's empty weight is 894 lbs. The dual Grand Rapids and Auto
pilot add that little extra weight.
regards,
Ron Ritchie
On 20/07/2014 04:26, George Andre wrote:
> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty
> weight for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed'
> numbers as opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your
> weight and balance papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that
> is
> very sparsely equipped, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory
> advertisements. Either my scales (electronic) are way off or ????
> Thanks to all.
>
> George Andre
>
>
> Links:
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> [1] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
> [2] http://forums.matronics.com
> [3] http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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