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1. 06:36 AM - Re: Lightning-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 07/19/14 (George Andre)
2. 06:36 AM - Re: Lightning-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 07/19/14 (George Andre)
3. 05:19 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (GARY BARNETT)
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 07/19/14 |
Thanks to all who responded.
My EAB jet empty weight is 895 which was strangely high because my friend with
a factory LS-1 has empty wt of 840 and has considerably more equipment (avionics
and autopilot) than mine. This 895 number is the same as original wt of plane
when equipped with a BRS chute.
I weighed with zero fuel on fancy electronic racing scales. Nick- this after chute
removed. My new LSA wing tips are heavier and we put on the steps, B&B interior
(lighter than what was in place) plus grnd adjust prop, but I have minimum
avionics, and wide track gear.
I'm happy to see others are in the same ballpark.
Thanks again....George Andr...jet kit #11
Sent from my iPad
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> 1. 09:26 AM - Lightning Jet empty weight (George Andre)
> 2. 09:37 AM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Dennis W. Wilt)
> 3. 10:09 AM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Nick Otterback)
> 4. 03:08 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (geather)
> 5. 03:32 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Max Voronin)
> 6. 05:27 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Linda Mathias)
> 7. 05:55 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Nick Otterback)
> 8. 05:57 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (ritchie@wave.co.nz)
>
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> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
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> Time: 09:26:55 AM PST US
> From: George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weight
> for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
> opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
> ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipp
> ed,-comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my
> scales (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.=0A=0AGeorge Andre
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:37:19 AM PST US
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
> From: "Dennis W. Wilt" <dwwilt@AOL.COM>
>
>
> George,
>
> My plane came in at 886 lbs.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dennis W. Wilt, Aviation Consultant
> Communications, Navigation, and Surveillance Subject Matter Expert
> Program and Project Management
> 757-784-8113
> N616DW (Arion Lightning S/N 132)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 19, 2014 12:27 pm
> Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
>
> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weight
> for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
> opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
> ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipp
> ed, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my s
> cales (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>
>
> George Andre
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:09:48 AM PST US
> From: Nick Otterback <vettin74@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
> George,
>
> What's your empty weight? And did you re weigh after the chute came out?
>
> Nick
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 11:26 AM, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weigh
> t for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as o
> pposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balance
> papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipped,
> comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my scale
> s (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>
>> George Andre
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>
>
> Time: 03:08:18 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
> From: geather <geather@bigpond.net.au>
>
> 400 Kg (882 lbs). Kit 127
>
> Geoff Eather (Aust)
>
>
>> On 20 Jul 2014, at 2:26 am, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weigh
> t for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as o
> pposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balance
> papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipped,
> comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my scale
> s (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>
>> George Andre
> 3D===============3
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> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:32:30 PM PST US
> From: Max Voronin <voroninmax@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
> The one I built ended up around 820 lbs if I remember right
> Epoxy primer and paint, no clear coat
> S/n 93
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 6:07 PM, geather <geather@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> 400 Kg (882 lbs). Kit 127
>>
>> Geoff Eather (Aust)
>>
>>
>>> On 20 Jul 2014, at 2:26 am, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weig
> ht for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
> opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
> ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equippe
> d, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my sca
> les (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>>
>>> George Andre
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> D==============
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>>> ning-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
>>> D==============
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>>> //forums.matronics.com
>>> D==============
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>>> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:27:03 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
> From: Linda Mathias <lbmathias1@gmail.com>
>
> George,
> My Lightning's empty wt is 883 lbs and has a fully IFR panel with glass c
> ockpit.
> Linda Mathias
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 12:26 PM, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weigh
> t for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as o
> pposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balance
> papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipped,
> comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my scale
> s (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>
>> George Andre
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
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> 3D===============3
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> ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:55:52 PM PST US
> From: Nick Otterback <vettin74@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
> Our first demo 323AL was 830lbs, single EFIS no AP wood prop ect. N324AL was
> 850 with dual EFIS, AP, long wings ect. Generally around 820lbs very basic,
> to 900 loaded with everything. Our scales are digital racing scales and we w
> eigh the planes in full dress with oil and no fuel. Have posted several PICs
> on FB of them on scales. The heaviest yet was the XS with the lycoming O320
> and it was 1013 lbs.
>
> The planes with the EAB gear are lighter, the wide track gear weighs 13lbs m
> ore, Carbon props are about 5lbs heavier than wood. The interiors from B&B A
> re extremely nice but are heavy as well. steps weigh 3lbs a side.
>
> Over the years from the early SN to newer ones the airframes lost weight. Th
> e fuselages used to weigh around 115lbs now they are about 105lbs, wing pane
> ls were about 90lbs and now around 75lbs. Same win small parts ect. We have c
> hanged cores resins and layup schedules to produce lighter parts while retai
> ning strength.
>
> It seems the biggest weight gain is the advancement in avionics and all the s
> tuff you can stick in a plane.
>
> Nick
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Linda Mathias <lbmathias1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> George,
>> My Lightning's empty wt is 883 lbs and has a fully IFR panel with glas
> s cockpit.
>> Linda Mathias
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 12:26 PM, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weig
> ht for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
> opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
> ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equippe
> d, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my sca
> les (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>>
>>> George Andre
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> D==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
>
>>> ning-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
>>> D==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
>
>>> //forums.matronics.com
>>> D==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
>
>>> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>> D==============
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> ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:57:38 PM PST US
> From: ritchie@wave.co.nz
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
>
> My lightning's empty weight is 894 lbs. The dual Grand Rapids and Auto
> pilot add that little extra weight.
> regards,
> Ron Ritchie
>
>> On 20/07/2014 04:26, George Andre wrote:
>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty
>> weight for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed'
>> numbers as opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your
>> weight and balance papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that
>> is
>> very sparsely equipped, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory
>> advertisements. Either my scales (electronic) are way off or ????
>> Thanks to all.
>>
>> George Andre
>>
>>
>> Links:
>> ------
>> [1] http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
>> [2] http://forums.matronics.com
>> [3] http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 07/19/14 |
Thanks to all who responded.
My EAB jet empty weight is 895 which was strangely high because my friend with
a factory LS-1 has empty wt of 840 and has considerably more equipment (avionics
and autopilot) than mine. This 895 number is the same as original wt of plane
when equipped with a BRS chute.
I weighed with zero fuel on fancy electronic racing scales. Nick- this after chute
removed. My new LSA wing tips are heavier and we put on the steps, B&B interior
(lighter than what was in place) plus grnd adjust prop, but I have minimum
avionics, and wide track gear.
I'm happy to see others are in the same ballpark.
Thanks again....George Andr...jet kit #11
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 20, 2014, at 2:00, Lightning-List Digest Server <lightning-list@matronics.com>
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> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Lightning-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
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> Total Messages Posted Sat 07/19/14: 8
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> Today's Message Index:
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>
> 1. 09:26 AM - Lightning Jet empty weight (George Andre)
> 2. 09:37 AM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Dennis W. Wilt)
> 3. 10:09 AM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Nick Otterback)
> 4. 03:08 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (geather)
> 5. 03:32 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Max Voronin)
> 6. 05:27 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Linda Mathias)
> 7. 05:55 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (Nick Otterback)
> 8. 05:57 PM - Re: Lightning Jet empty weight (ritchie@wave.co.nz)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:26:55 AM PST US
> From: George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weight
> for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
> opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
> ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipp
> ed,-comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my
> scales (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.=0A=0AGeorge Andre
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:37:19 AM PST US
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
> From: "Dennis W. Wilt" <dwwilt@AOL.COM>
>
>
> George,
>
> My plane came in at 886 lbs.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dennis W. Wilt, Aviation Consultant
> Communications, Navigation, and Surveillance Subject Matter Expert
> Program and Project Management
> 757-784-8113
> N616DW (Arion Lightning S/N 132)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 19, 2014 12:27 pm
> Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
>
> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weight
> for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
> opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
> ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipp
> ed, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my s
> cales (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>
>
> George Andre
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:09:48 AM PST US
> From: Nick Otterback <vettin74@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
> George,
>
> What's your empty weight? And did you re weigh after the chute came out?
>
> Nick
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 11:26 AM, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weigh
> t for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as o
> pposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balance
> papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipped,
> comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my scale
> s (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>
>> George Andre
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
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> 3D===============3
> D==============
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>
> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:08:18 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
> From: geather <geather@bigpond.net.au>
>
> 400 Kg (882 lbs). Kit 127
>
> Geoff Eather (Aust)
>
>
>> On 20 Jul 2014, at 2:26 am, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weigh
> t for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as o
> pposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balance
> papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipped,
> comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my scale
> s (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>
>> George Andre
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
>
> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:32:30 PM PST US
> From: Max Voronin <voroninmax@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
> The one I built ended up around 820 lbs if I remember right
> Epoxy primer and paint, no clear coat
> S/n 93
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 6:07 PM, geather <geather@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> 400 Kg (882 lbs). Kit 127
>>
>> Geoff Eather (Aust)
>>
>>
>>> On 20 Jul 2014, at 2:26 am, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weig
> ht for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
> opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
> ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equippe
> d, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my sca
> les (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>>
>>> George Andre
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> D==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
>
>>> ning-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
>>> D==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
>
>>> //forums.matronics.com
>>> D==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
>
>>> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:27:03 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
> From: Linda Mathias <lbmathias1@gmail.com>
>
> George,
> My Lightning's empty wt is 883 lbs and has a fully IFR panel with glass c
> ockpit.
> Linda Mathias
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 12:26 PM, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weigh
> t for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as o
> pposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balance
> papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equipped,
> comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my scale
> s (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>
>> George Andre
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
>
> ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:55:52 PM PST US
> From: Nick Otterback <vettin74@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
> Our first demo 323AL was 830lbs, single EFIS no AP wood prop ect. N324AL was
> 850 with dual EFIS, AP, long wings ect. Generally around 820lbs very basic,
> to 900 loaded with everything. Our scales are digital racing scales and we w
> eigh the planes in full dress with oil and no fuel. Have posted several PICs
> on FB of them on scales. The heaviest yet was the XS with the lycoming O320
> and it was 1013 lbs.
>
> The planes with the EAB gear are lighter, the wide track gear weighs 13lbs m
> ore, Carbon props are about 5lbs heavier than wood. The interiors from B&B A
> re extremely nice but are heavy as well. steps weigh 3lbs a side.
>
> Over the years from the early SN to newer ones the airframes lost weight. Th
> e fuselages used to weigh around 115lbs now they are about 105lbs, wing pane
> ls were about 90lbs and now around 75lbs. Same win small parts ect. We have c
> hanged cores resins and layup schedules to produce lighter parts while retai
> ning strength.
>
> It seems the biggest weight gain is the advancement in avionics and all the s
> tuff you can stick in a plane.
>
> Nick
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Linda Mathias <lbmathias1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> George,
>> My Lightning's empty wt is 883 lbs and has a fully IFR panel with glas
> s cockpit.
>> Linda Mathias
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 19, 2014, at 12:26 PM, George Andre <glandre@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weig
> ht for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
> opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
> ce papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that is very sparsely equippe
> d, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory advertisements. Either my sca
> les (electronic) are way off or ???? Thanks to all.
>>>
>>> George Andre
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> D==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
>
>>> ning-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
>>> D==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
>
>>> //forums.matronics.com
>>> D==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
>
>>> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>> D==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
>
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
> ==============
> 3D===============3
> D==============
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> 3D===============3
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>
> ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:57:38 PM PST US
> From: ritchie@wave.co.nz
> Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
>
>
> My lightning's empty weight is 894 lbs. The dual Grand Rapids and Auto
> pilot add that little extra weight.
> regards,
> Ron Ritchie
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>> On 20/07/2014 04:26, George Andre wrote:
>> I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty
>> weight for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed'
>> numbers as opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your
>> weight and balance papers and respond to this forum. My plane, that
>> is
>> very sparsely equipped, comes in at 40 lbs heavier than the factory
>> advertisements. Either my scales (electronic) are way off or ????
>> Thanks to all.
>>
>> George Andre
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| Subject: | Lightning Jet empty weight |
George
My factory built lightning when checked at Gregg Hobbs place weighed slight
ly more than 900 Lbs. dry empty weight. That was with the MK 2 tail feathe
rs and fairings. I would give you an exact weight but the data is at the h
anger and some distance away from my home.
Gary Barnett N335AL ELSA sn 133
From: glandre@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Lightning-List: Lightning Jet empty weight
I am doing a survey and would like to know what others have as empty weight
for their Lightnings. I would like to have actual 'as weighed' numbers as
opposed to what the factory has put out. Please check your weight and balan
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