---------------------------------------------------------- Lom-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/12/07: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:50 AM - Re: Lom-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 12/11/07 (Klaus Dietrich) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:13 AM PST US From: Klaus Dietrich Subject: Lom-List: Re: Lom-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 12/11/07 concerning the Buzzer maintance you have to re-adjust it properly evry 50hrs or so; best done on a bench with a Multimeter and a stabilized Voltage of 24V! This is a bit tricky to do on the plane. I take my buzzer out, dismount the contacts, clean them thouroughly with a file (no holes, craters etc), reassemble and then adjust the gap to the correct Amp. value (max 1,0Ah). Take care when re-mounting the spring-contact that both contacts are 100% aligned and parallel to each other! Adjusting the gap is done the following way: * you need a 24V transformer (best with selective Amps) and an Multimeter to read Amp * put +24V on contact 3 or 1 and ground on contact 2 or 4 * have your Multimeter set to measure Ah (0-5Ah) and connected into the circuit * set your transformer to 24V and limit to max 2,0Ah! * turn on the transformer with 24V and check the Ah (do not let it on more than 20sec, otherwise the buzzer will get too hot!) => the correct Ah should be 1.0Ah (+/-0.2Ah)! * to achieve the correct 1.0 A-setting, you have to bent very slightly the moving part of the spring-contact with a small plier! => bending the spring in direction of the fixed contact will increase the Ah => bending the spring away from the fixed contact will reduce the Ah Hope this helps! Klaus Klaus Dietrich Oracle Financing EMEA Tel/Fax: +43 1 33 777 825 http://www.oracle.com/financing Lom-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Lom-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Lom-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-12-11&Archive=Lom > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 07-12-11&Archive=Lom > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Lom-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 12/11/07: 4 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 11:11 AM - Rep: SlickSTART install (luke wuest) > 2. 11:33 AM - Re: Rep: SlickSTART install (Robert Feldtman) > 3. 12:32 PM - Re: Rep: SlickSTART install (Dave Austin) > 4. 12:54 PM - Re: Rep: SlickSTART install (Robert Feldtman) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:11:27 AM PST US > From: luke wuest > Subject: Lom-List: Rep: SlickSTART install > > > Hello Bob, > > Sorry it took awhile for me to post. I did not have a chance to get to the airport > until today. > > My SlickStart is Model# SS1001 series A. Believe it or not, it is installed exactly > like the starter vibrator. My aircraft is setup a little different than most, > I have a separate mag switch, starter switch and an ignition boost button, > just like allot of antique radial powered aircraft. > > The SlickSTART has 5 connections on it, 1, 2, 3, VIN, GND. The posts marked 2 > and 3 have no connections. > > The VIN post receives voltage from my starter switch positive solenoid contact, > this is wired thru my ignition boost switch. Voltage into the SlickSTART should > only be applied when the starter is engaged, my install takes it a step further > and only allows voltage in when the starter is engaged and the ignition boost > button is held in. > > The GND post is wired to my magneto switch external ground post. > > Post #1 has 3 wires attached to it. A heavy one going to the R/H magneto P-lead, > and two light gage wires going into my Mag switch. I have to do more research > into my mag switch install. There is a connector on the back with six wires > going internally into the switch, 2 of the wires are from the SlickStart number > 1 post and I don't know what any of them do. Unfortunately it is very hard to > get at, I have to stand on my head in the rear cockpit (open cockpit biplane) > and work WAY up under the panel. I will try to gather more info and post. > > Unison Industries has published a service letter on the different ways to install > the SlickSTART box, it is number SL2-96 and gives some incite into the different > ignition boost systems. Th standard LOM system is very similar to the "install > to replace starting vibrators that do not include a relay" system. > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:33:24 AM PST US > From: "Robert Feldtman" > Subject: Re: Lom-List: Rep: SlickSTART install > > Luke - thank you very much - this is of great help. the only problem now is > that they are indefinite back order from Unisom according the A/C spruce. So > - guess I'll button her up now that I have the buzzer working and wait til > the slick start shows up and put it in with the great information you have > given me. > > I'll let you know how it goes. > > thanks again and Merry Christmas > > bobf > > > On 12/11/07, luke wuest wrote: > >> Hello Bob, >> >> Sorry it took awhile for me to post. I did not have a chance to get to the >> airport until today. >> >> My SlickStart is Model# SS1001 series A. Believe it or not, it is >> installed exactly like the starter vibrator. My aircraft is setup a little >> different than most, I have a separate mag switch, starter switch and an >> ignition boost button, just like allot of antique radial powered aircraft. >> >> The SlickSTART has 5 connections on it, 1, 2, 3, VIN, GND. The posts >> marked 2 and 3 have no connections. >> >> The VIN post receives voltage from my starter switch positive solenoid >> contact, this is wired thru my ignition boost switch. Voltage into the >> SlickSTART should only be applied when the starter is engaged, my install >> takes it a step further and only allows voltage in when the starter is >> engaged and the ignition boost button is held in. >> >> The GND post is wired to my magneto switch external ground post. >> >> Post #1 has 3 wires attached to it. A heavy one going to the R/H magneto >> P-lead, and two light gage wires going into my Mag switch. I have to do more >> research into my mag switch install. There is a connector on the back with >> six wires going internally into the switch, 2 of the wires are from the >> SlickStart number 1 post and I don't know what any of them do. Unfortunately >> it is very hard to get at, I have to stand on my head in the rear cockpit >> (open cockpit biplane) and work WAY up under the panel. I will try to gather >> more info and post. >> >> Unison Industries has published a service letter on the different ways to >> install the SlickSTART box, it is number SL2-96 and gives some incite into >> the different ignition boost systems. Th standard LOM system is very similar >> to the "install to replace starting vibrators that do not include a relay" >> system. >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:32:56 PM PST US > From: "Dave Austin" > Subject: Re: Lom-List: Rep: SlickSTART install > > Bob, > What did you find wrong with the buzzer? Just need the points cleaned? > So far, so good with mine - 40 hours plus quite a number of run-ups. > Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:54:51 PM PST US > From: "Robert Feldtman" > Subject: Re: Lom-List: Rep: SlickSTART install > > Actually, the points were clean, but must have been a couple thousandths > apart cause when I check across them, they were not contacting "at rest" - > so according to the engine manual, you just bend it slightly so it touches > the grounding post - then the ohmeter dropped to nothing. I have about 90 > hrs on my LOM engine. It is part of the annual check which I had done to > clean them - I just didn't actually check the ohmeter til it was obvious > there was not spark to start it with. after adjusting, it started fine. > > The slick starts will be shipping again soon according to Unisom who makes > them. Till then I will use the buzzer; but look forward to quicker starts > and less cranking. > > bobf > > > On 12/11/07, Dave Austin wrote: > >> Bob, >> What did you find wrong with the buzzer? Just need the points cleaned? >> So far, so good with mine - 40 hours plus quite a number of run-ups. >> Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII >> >> * >> >> * >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message lom-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Lom-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/lom-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/lom-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.