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1. 04:57 AM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Stephen Beaver)
2. 09:04 AM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Robert Feldtman)
3. 04:16 PM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Mike Pienaar)
4. 04:23 PM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Stephen Beaver)
5. 04:37 PM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Mike Pienaar)
6. 04:38 PM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Chris Kinnaman)
7. 04:57 PM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Stephen Beaver)
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Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=B9t say which type without knowing th
e
alternator model.
Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia =AD Perhaps there is one in the box
with your engine ?
You most likely don=B9t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pump and
fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an external pump i
s
not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric pump to prime the
plumbing on first start though.
You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made one from
cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and had it welded
by an expert aluminum welder.
Good luck.
On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of month's
and
> have a few questions after going through the engine installation manual.
The
> motor is still in the crate and sealed so I can't look too closely to see
what
> I've got.
>
> It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external regulat
or
> and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me, I've looked
at
> the engine installation manual but the quality of the printing is so poor
I
> can hardly read anything.
>
> Where do I get a starter buzzer?
>
> For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has anybody
> found a substitute for this.
>
> Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hints f
or
> this.
>
> I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks like is
here
> http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster - Buzzers are
about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, it is available
contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com)
Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted, and
actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the engine
for start with the facet.
I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an engine
near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough and loss of
power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was departing the
airport, and landed fine.
We'll see what gives.
I might be looking at some major work
bobf
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com>wro
te:
> Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=92t say which type without knowin
g
> the alternator model.
> Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia ' Perhaps there is one in the
box
> with your engine ?
> You most likely don=92t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pump a
nd
> fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an external pump
is
> not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric pump to prime the
> plumbing on first start though.
> You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made one fro
m
> cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and had it welde
d
> by an expert aluminum welder.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of month's
> and have a few questions after going through the engine installation manu
al.
> The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I can't look too closely to
> see what I've got.
>
> It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external regulat
or
> and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me, I've looked
at
> the engine installation manual but the quality of the printing is so poor
I
> can hardly read anything.
>
> Where do I get a starter buzzer?
>
> For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has anybody
> found a substitute for this.
>
> Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hints f
or
> this.
>
> I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks like is
> here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> Mike
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Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
Thanks for the response.
Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary
valve that you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general
description would be appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope it is
not as bad as it sounds.
Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the engine
installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator which looks
like a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the bottom to the top and
the top end is open inside the tank and the bottom of the tube is
connected to the engine. The manual is not very clear on what connects
to where. What capacity did you make the tank?
Thanks again for the help
Mike
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From: Robert Feldtman
To: lom-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster - Buzzers
are about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, it is
available contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com)
Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted, and
actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the
engine for start with the facet.
I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an
engine near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough and
loss of power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was
departing the airport, and landed fine.
We'll see what gives.
I might be looking at some major work
bobf
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver
<sbeaver@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=92t say which type without
knowing the alternator model.
Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia ' Perhaps there is one
in the box with your engine ?
You most likely don=92t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel
pump and fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an
external pump is not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric
pump to prime the plumbing on first start though.
You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made
one from cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and
had it welded by an expert aluminum welder.
Good luck.
On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi All,
I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of
month's and have a few questions after going through the engine
installation manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I
can't look too closely to see what I've got.
It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external
regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me,
I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality of the
printing is so poor I can hardly read anything.
Where do I get a starter buzzer?
For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has
anybody found a substitute for this.
Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or
hints for this.
I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks
like is here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
Thanks for the help
Mike
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Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
A lot of the complexity in the tank shown in the manual comes from
accommodation of an inverted system. - Not something you will use much in a
KIS.
Basically you will need an outlet at the bottom, a return line near the top
,
a vent line and a filler cap. Not much more than that. I would make it of a
t
least 8 qts capacity, no more than 10 and plan to keep it 2/3 full.
Steve
On 4/8/09 7:14 PM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary valve
that
> you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general description would be
> appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope it is not as bad as it soun
ds.
>
> Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the engine
> installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator which looks
like
> a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the bottom to the top and the t
op
> end is open inside the tank and the bottom of the tube is connected to th
e
> engine. The manual is not very clear on what connects to where. What capa
city
> did you make the tank?
>
> Thanks again for the help
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Robert Feldtman <mailto:bobf@feldtman.com>
>>
>> To: lom-list@matronics.com
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
>>
>>
>>
>> I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster - Buzzers
are
>> about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, it is availabl
e
>> contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com)
>>
>> Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted, and
>> actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the engi
ne
>> for start with the facet.
>>
>> I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an eng
ine
>> near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough and loss
of
>> power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was departing the
>> airport, and landed fine.
>>
>> We'll see what gives.
>>
>>
>>
>> I might be looking at some major work
>>
>> bobf
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=B9t say which type without knowi
ng
>>> the alternator model.
>>> Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia =AD Perhaps there is one in th
e box
>>> with your engine ?
>>> You most likely don=B9t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pump
and
>>> fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an external p
ump
>>> is not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric pump to pri
me
>>> the plumbing on first start though.
>>> You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made one
from
>>> cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and had it we
lded
>>> by an expert aluminum welder.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca
>>> <http://mjpienaar@shaw.ca> > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of mon
th's
>>>> and have a few questions after going through the engine installation
>>>> manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I can't look too
>>>> closely to see what I've got.
>>>>
>>>> It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external
>>>> regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me
,
>>>> I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality of the
>>>> printing is so poor I can hardly read anything.
>>>>
>>>> Where do I get a starter buzzer?
>>>>
>>>> For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has any
body
>>>> found a substitute for this.
>>>>
>>>> Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hin
ts
>>>> for this.
>>>>
>>>> I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks lik
e is
>>>> here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questionsStephen, thanks
for your quick response, where does the vent line connect to or does it
just vent the tank overboard?
Thanks
Mike
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From: Stephen Beaver
To: lom-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
A lot of the complexity in the tank shown in the manual comes from
accommodation of an inverted system. - Not something you will use much
in a KIS.
Basically you will need an outlet at the bottom, a return line near
the top, a vent line and a filler cap. Not much more than that. I would
make it of at least 8 qts capacity, no more than 10 and plan to keep it
2/3 full.
Steve
On 4/8/09 7:14 PM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
Thanks for the response.
Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary
valve that you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general
description would be appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope it is
not as bad as it sounds.
Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the
engine installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator
which looks like a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the bottom to
the top and the top end is open inside the tank and the bottom of the
tube is connected to the engine. The manual is not very clear on what
connects to where. What capacity did you make the tank?
Thanks again for the help
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Feldtman <mailto:bobf@feldtman.com>
To: lom-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other
questions
I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster -
Buzzers are about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine,
it is available contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com)
Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted,
and actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the
engine for start with the facet.
I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage,
an engine near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough
and loss of power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was
departing the airport, and landed fine.
We'll see what gives.
I might be looking at some major work
bobf
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver
<sbeaver@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can't say which type
without knowing the alternator model.
Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia - Perhaps there is
one in the box with your engine ?
You most likely don't really need an external pump. The LOM
fuel pump and fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails,
an external pump is not going to help. You could use a small Facet
electric pump to prime the plumbing on first start though.
You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I
made one from cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum
and had it welded by an expert aluminum welder.
Good luck.
On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca
<http://mjpienaar@shaw.ca> > wrote:
Hi All,
I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next
couple of month's and have a few questions after going through the
engine installation manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed
so I can't look too closely to see what I've got.
It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or
external regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can
give me, I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality
of the printing is so poor I can hardly read anything.
Where do I get a starter buzzer?
For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or
has anybody found a substitute for this.
Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any
plans or hints for this.
I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it
looks like is here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
Thanks for the help
Mike
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Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
Glad you're OK, Bob. Keep us in the loop about the problems.
Chris
--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Robert Feldtman <bobf@feldtman.com> wrote:
> From: Robert Feldtman <bobf@feldtman.com>
> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
> To: lom-list@matronics.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 11:03 AM
> I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster
> - Buzzers are
> about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine,
> it is available
> contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com)
> Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes
> noted, and
> actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to
> prime the engine
> for start with the facet.
> I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge
> oil usage, an engine
> near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever
> rough and loss of
> power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as
> I was departing the
> airport, and landed fine.
> We'll see what gives.
>
> I might be looking at some major work
> bobf
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver
> <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com>wrote:
>
> > Yes, you probably need a regulator. Cant say which
> type without knowing
> > the alternator model.
> > Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia Perhaps
> there is one in the box
> > with your engine ?
> > You most likely dont really need an external pump.
> The LOM fuel pump and
> > fuel injection system are one and the same. If it
> fails, an external pump is
> > not going to help. You could use a small Facet
> electric pump to prime the
> > plumbing on first start though.
> > You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another
> source. I made one from
> > cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft
> aluminum and had it welded
> > by an expert aluminum welder.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar"
> <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the
> next couple of month's
> > and have a few questions after going through the
> engine installation manual.
> > The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I
> can't look too closely to
> > see what I've got.
> >
> > It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal
> or external regulator
> > and are there any other electrical pointers you can
> give me, I've looked at
> > the engine installation manual but the quality of the
> printing is so poor I
> > can hardly read anything.
> >
> > Where do I get a starter buzzer?
> >
> > For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand
> operated pump" or has anybody
> > found a substitute for this.
> >
> > Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have
> any plans or hints for
> > this.
> >
> > I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to
> see what it looks like is
> > here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
> >
> > Thanks for the help
> >
> > Mike
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Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
It just vents overboard to allow for expansion.
Steve Beaver
(614) 937 4189
On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:36 PM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Stephen, thanks for your quick response, where does the vent line
> connect to or does it just vent the tank overboard?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stephen Beaver
> To: lom-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
>
> A lot of the complexity in the tank shown in the manual comes from
> accommodation of an inverted system. - Not something you will use
> much in a KIS.
>
> Basically you will need an outlet at the bottom, a return line near
> the top, a vent line and a filler cap. Not much more than that. I
> would make it of at least 8 qts capacity, no more than 10 and plan
> to keep it 2/3 full.
>
> Steve
>
> On 4/8/09 7:14 PM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary
> valve that you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general
> description would be appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope
> it is not as bad as it sounds.
>
> Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the
> engine installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator
> which looks like a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the
> bottom to the top and the top end is open inside the tank and the
> bottom of the tube is connected to the engine. The manual is not
> very clear on what connects to where. What capacity did you make the
> tank?
>
> Thanks again for the help
>
> Mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Robert Feldtman <mailto:bobf@feldtman.com>
>
> To: lom-list@matronics.com
>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM
>
> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
>
>
> I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster -
> Buzzers are about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want
> mine, it is available contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com)
>
> Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted,
> and actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime
> the engine for start with the facet.
>
> I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an
> engine near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough
> and loss of power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was
> departing the airport, and landed fine.
>
> We'll see what gives.
>
>
> I might be looking at some major work
>
> bobf
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver
<sbeaver@columbus.rr.com
> > wrote:
>
>
> Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=99t say which type
without kn
> owing the alternator model.
> Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia =93 Perhaps there is
one in
> the box with your engine ?
> You most likely don=99t really need an external pump. The LOM
fuel pu
> mp and fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an
> external pump is not going to help. You could use a small Facet ele
> ctric pump to prime the plumbing on first start though.
> You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made
> one from cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum
> and had it welded by an expert aluminum welder.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca
<http://mjpienaar@shaw.ca
> > > wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of
> month's and have a few questions after going through the engine
> installation manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed so
> I can't look too closely to see what I've got.
>
> It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external
> regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can give
> me, I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality
> of the printing is so poor I can hardly read anything.
>
> Where do I get a starter buzzer?
>
> For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has
> anybody found a substitute for this.
>
> Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or
> hints for this.
>
> I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks
> like is here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> Mike
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Subject: | Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions |
will let you know the final.
bobf
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Chris Kinnaman <dogspiritnow@yahoo.com>wrot
e:
>
>
> Glad you're OK, Bob. Keep us in the loop about the problems.
>
> Chris
>
>
> --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Robert Feldtman <bobf@feldtman.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Robert Feldtman <bobf@feldtman.com>
> > Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
> > To: lom-list@matronics.com
> > Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 11:03 AM
> > I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster
> > - Buzzers are
> > about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine,
> > it is available
> > contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com)
> > Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes
> > noted, and
> > actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to
> > prime the engine
> > for start with the facet.
> > I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge
> > oil usage, an engine
> > near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever
> > rough and loss of
> > power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as
> > I was departing the
> > airport, and landed fine.
> > We'll see what gives.
> >
> > I might be looking at some major work
> > bobf
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver
> > <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=92t say which
> > type without knowing
> > > the alternator model.
> > > Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia ' Perhaps
> > there is one in the box
> > > with your engine ?
> > > You most likely don=92t really need an external pump.
> > The LOM fuel pump and
> > > fuel injection system are one and the same. If it
> > fails, an external pump is
> > > not going to help. You could use a small Facet
> > electric pump to prime the
> > > plumbing on first start though.
> > > You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another
> > source. I made one from
> > > cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft
> > aluminum and had it welded
> > > by an expert aluminum welder.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar"
> > <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the
> > next couple of month's
> > > and have a few questions after going through the
> > engine installation manual.
> > > The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I
> > can't look too closely to
> > > see what I've got.
> > >
> > > It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal
> > or external regulator
> > > and are there any other electrical pointers you can
> > give me, I've looked at
> > > the engine installation manual but the quality of the
> > printing is so poor I
> > > can hardly read anything.
> > >
> > > Where do I get a starter buzzer?
> > >
> > > For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand
> > operated pump" or has anybody
> > > found a substitute for this.
> > >
> > > Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have
> > any plans or hints for
> > > this.
> > >
> > > I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to
> > see what it looks like is
> > > here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > *
> > >
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> > > ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List
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