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     1. 04:57 AM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Stephen Beaver)
     2. 09:04 AM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Robert Feldtman)
     3. 04:16 PM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Mike Pienaar)
     4. 04:23 PM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Stephen Beaver)
     5. 04:37 PM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Mike Pienaar)
     6. 04:38 PM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Chris Kinnaman)
     7. 04:57 PM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Stephen Beaver)
     8. 05:17 PM - Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions (Robert Feldtman)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:57:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
    From: Stephen Beaver <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com>
    Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=B9t say which type without knowing th e alternator model. Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia =AD Perhaps there is one in the box with your engine ? You most likely don=B9t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pump and fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an external pump i s not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric pump to prime the plumbing on first start though. You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made one from cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and had it welded by an expert aluminum welder. Good luck. On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi All, > > I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of month's and > have a few questions after going through the engine installation manual. The > motor is still in the crate and sealed so I can't look too closely to see what > I've got. > > It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external regulat or > and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me, I've looked at > the engine installation manual but the quality of the printing is so poor I > can hardly read anything. > > Where do I get a starter buzzer? > > For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has anybody > found a substitute for this. > > Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hints f or > this. > > I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks like is here > http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/ > > Thanks for the help > > Mike > > > >


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    Time: 09:04:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
    From: Robert Feldtman <bobf@feldtman.com>
    I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster - Buzzers are about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, it is available contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com) Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted, and actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the engine for start with the facet. I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an engine near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough and loss of power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was departing the airport, and landed fine. We'll see what gives. I might be looking at some major work bobf On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com>wro te: > Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=92t say which type without knowin g > the alternator model. > Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia ' Perhaps there is one in the box > with your engine ? > You most likely don=92t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pump a nd > fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an external pump is > not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric pump to prime the > plumbing on first start though. > You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made one fro m > cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and had it welde d > by an expert aluminum welder. > > Good luck. > > > On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: > > Hi All, > > I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of month's > and have a few questions after going through the engine installation manu al. > The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I can't look too closely to > see what I've got. > > It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external regulat or > and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me, I've looked at > the engine installation manual but the quality of the printing is so poor I > can hardly read anything. > > Where do I get a starter buzzer? > > For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has anybody > found a substitute for this. > > Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hints f or > this. > > I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks like is > here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/ > > Thanks for the help > > Mike > * > > ail Forum - > ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List > ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > matronics.com > ;- List Contribution Web Site - > ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > ://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 04:16:51 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
    Thanks for the response. Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary valve that you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general description would be appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope it is not as bad as it sounds. Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the engine installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator which looks like a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the bottom to the top and the top end is open inside the tank and the bottom of the tube is connected to the engine. The manual is not very clear on what connects to where. What capacity did you make the tank? Thanks again for the help Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Feldtman To: lom-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster - Buzzers are about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, it is available contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com) Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted, and actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the engine for start with the facet. I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an engine near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough and loss of power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was departing the airport, and landed fine. We'll see what gives. I might be looking at some major work bobf On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com> wrote: Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=92t say which type without knowing the alternator model. Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia ' Perhaps there is one in the box with your engine ? You most likely don=92t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pump and fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an external pump is not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric pump to prime the plumbing on first start though. You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made one from cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and had it welded by an expert aluminum welder. Good luck. On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: Hi All, I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of month's and have a few questions after going through the engine installation manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I can't look too closely to see what I've got. It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me, I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality of the printing is so poor I can hardly read anything. Where do I get a starter buzzer? For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has anybody found a substitute for this. Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hints for this. I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks like is here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/ Thanks for the help Mike ail Forum - ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - matronics.com ;- List Contribution Web Site - ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ://www.matronics.com/contribution et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List a href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 04/08/09 05:53:00


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    Time: 04:23:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
    From: Stephen Beaver <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com>
    A lot of the complexity in the tank shown in the manual comes from accommodation of an inverted system. - Not something you will use much in a KIS. Basically you will need an outlet at the bottom, a return line near the top , a vent line and a filler cap. Not much more than that. I would make it of a t least 8 qts capacity, no more than 10 and plan to keep it 2/3 full. Steve On 4/8/09 7:14 PM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: > Thanks for the response. > > Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary valve that > you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general description would be > appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope it is not as bad as it soun ds. > > Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the engine > installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator which looks like > a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the bottom to the top and the t op > end is open inside the tank and the bottom of the tube is connected to th e > engine. The manual is not very clear on what connects to where. What capa city > did you make the tank? > > Thanks again for the help > > Mike > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Robert Feldtman <mailto:bobf@feldtman.com> >> >> To: lom-list@matronics.com >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM >> >> Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions >> >> >> >> I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster - Buzzers are >> about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, it is availabl e >> contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com) >> >> Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted, and >> actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the engi ne >> for start with the facet. >> >> I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an eng ine >> near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough and loss of >> power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was departing the >> airport, and landed fine. >> >> We'll see what gives. >> >> >> >> I might be looking at some major work >> >> bobf >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=B9t say which type without knowi ng >>> the alternator model. >>> Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia =AD Perhaps there is one in th e box >>> with your engine ? >>> You most likely don=B9t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pump and >>> fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an external p ump >>> is not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric pump to pri me >>> the plumbing on first start though. >>> You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made one from >>> cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and had it we lded >>> by an expert aluminum welder. >>> >>> Good luck. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca >>> <http://mjpienaar@shaw.ca> > wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of mon th's >>>> and have a few questions after going through the engine installation >>>> manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I can't look too >>>> closely to see what I've got. >>>> >>>> It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external >>>> regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me , >>>> I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality of the >>>> printing is so poor I can hardly read anything. >>>> >>>> Where do I get a starter buzzer? >>>> >>>> For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has any body >>>> found a substitute for this. >>>> >>>> Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hin ts >>>> for this. >>>> >>>> I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks lik e is >>>> here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/ >>>> >>>> Thanks for the help >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> ail Forum - >>>> >>>> ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List >>>> ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >>>> >>>> matronics.com <http://matronics.com/> >>>> ;- List Contribution Web Site - >>>> ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >>>> ://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contributi on> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List >>> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> >>> a href="http://forums.matronics.com/" >>> target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >>> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> >>> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >>> > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Na > vigator?Lom-List <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > > > - Release Date: 04/08/09 05:53:00 > > > >


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    Time: 04:37:54 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
    Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questionsStephen, thanks for your quick response, where does the vent line connect to or does it just vent the tank overboard? Thanks Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Beaver To: lom-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions A lot of the complexity in the tank shown in the manual comes from accommodation of an inverted system. - Not something you will use much in a KIS. Basically you will need an outlet at the bottom, a return line near the top, a vent line and a filler cap. Not much more than that. I would make it of at least 8 qts capacity, no more than 10 and plan to keep it 2/3 full. Steve On 4/8/09 7:14 PM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: Thanks for the response. Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary valve that you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general description would be appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope it is not as bad as it sounds. Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the engine installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator which looks like a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the bottom to the top and the top end is open inside the tank and the bottom of the tube is connected to the engine. The manual is not very clear on what connects to where. What capacity did you make the tank? Thanks again for the help Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Feldtman <mailto:bobf@feldtman.com> To: lom-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster - Buzzers are about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, it is available contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com) Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted, and actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime the engine for start with the facet. I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an engine near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough and loss of power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was departing the airport, and landed fine. We'll see what gives. I might be looking at some major work bobf On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com> wrote: Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can't say which type without knowing the alternator model. Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia - Perhaps there is one in the box with your engine ? You most likely don't really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pump and fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an external pump is not going to help. You could use a small Facet electric pump to prime the plumbing on first start though. You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made one from cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum and had it welded by an expert aluminum welder. Good luck. On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca <http://mjpienaar@shaw.ca> > wrote: Hi All, I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of month's and have a few questions after going through the engine installation manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I can't look too closely to see what I've got. It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can give me, I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality of the printing is so poor I can hardly read anything. Where do I get a starter buzzer? For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has anybody found a substitute for this. Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or hints for this. I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks like is here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/ Thanks for the help Mike ail Forum - ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - matronics.com <http://matronics.com/> ;- List Contribution Web Site - ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> a href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Lom-List <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- - Release Date: 04/08/09 05:53:00 ail Forum - ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - matronics.com ;- List Contribution Web Site - ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 04/08/09 05:53:00


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    Time: 04:38:10 PM PST US
    From: Chris Kinnaman <dogspiritnow@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
    Glad you're OK, Bob. Keep us in the loop about the problems. Chris --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Robert Feldtman <bobf@feldtman.com> wrote: > From: Robert Feldtman <bobf@feldtman.com> > Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions > To: lom-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 11:03 AM > I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster > - Buzzers are > about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, > it is available > contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com) > Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes > noted, and > actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to > prime the engine > for start with the facet. > I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge > oil usage, an engine > near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever > rough and loss of > power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as > I was departing the > airport, and landed fine. > We'll see what gives. > > I might be looking at some major work > bobf > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver > <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com>wrote: > > > Yes, you probably need a regulator. Cant say which > type without knowing > > the alternator model. > > Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia Perhaps > there is one in the box > > with your engine ? > > You most likely dont really need an external pump. > The LOM fuel pump and > > fuel injection system are one and the same. If it > fails, an external pump is > > not going to help. You could use a small Facet > electric pump to prime the > > plumbing on first start though. > > You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another > source. I made one from > > cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft > aluminum and had it welded > > by an expert aluminum welder. > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" > <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the > next couple of month's > > and have a few questions after going through the > engine installation manual. > > The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I > can't look too closely to > > see what I've got. > > > > It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal > or external regulator > > and are there any other electrical pointers you can > give me, I've looked at > > the engine installation manual but the quality of the > printing is so poor I > > can hardly read anything. > > > > Where do I get a starter buzzer? > > > > For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand > operated pump" or has anybody > > found a substitute for this. > > > > Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have > any plans or hints for > > this. > > > > I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to > see what it looks like is > > here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/ > > > > Thanks for the help > > > > Mike > > * > > > > ail Forum - > > ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List > > ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > > matronics.com > > ;- List Contribution Web Site - > > ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > > ://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > * > > > > * > > > =========== > =========== > =========== > =========== > > * > > > >


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    Time: 04:57:22 PM PST US
    From: Stephen Beaver <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
    It just vents overboard to allow for expansion. Steve Beaver (614) 937 4189 On Apr 8, 2009, at 7:36 PM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: > Stephen, thanks for your quick response, where does the vent line > connect to or does it just vent the tank overboard? > > Thanks > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Beaver > To: lom-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:23 PM > Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions > > A lot of the complexity in the tank shown in the manual comes from > accommodation of an inverted system. - Not something you will use > much in a KIS. > > Basically you will need an outlet at the bottom, a return line near > the top, a vent line and a filler cap. Not much more than that. I > would make it of at least 8 qts capacity, no more than 10 and plan > to keep it 2/3 full. > > Steve > > On 4/8/09 7:14 PM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: > > Thanks for the response. > > Bob, I would like to know a bit more about the electrical temporary > valve that you put in to prime the engine. A photo or general > description would be appreciated. Good luck with the repairs, hope > it is not as bad as it sounds. > > Stephen, is the tank just a tank, if that makes any sense, the > engine installation manual shows 2 drainage valves and a de-aerator > which looks like a tube inside the oil tank that goes from the > bottom to the top and the top end is open inside the tank and the > bottom of the tube is connected to the engine. The manual is not > very clear on what connects to where. What capacity did you make the > tank? > > Thanks again for the help > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Robert Feldtman <mailto:bobf@feldtman.com> > > To: lom-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:03 AM > > Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions > > > I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster - > Buzzers are about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want > mine, it is available contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com) > > Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes noted, > and actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to prime > the engine for start with the facet. > > I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge oil usage, an > engine near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever rough > and loss of power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as I was > departing the airport, and landed fine. > > We'll see what gives. > > > I might be looking at some major work > > bobf > > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com > > wrote: > > > Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=99t say which type without kn > owing the alternator model. > Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia =93 Perhaps there is one in > the box with your engine ? > You most likely don=99t really need an external pump. The LOM fuel pu > mp and fuel injection system are one and the same. If it fails, an > external pump is not going to help. You could use a small Facet ele > ctric pump to prime the plumbing on first start though. > You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another source. I made > one from cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft aluminum > and had it welded by an expert aluminum welder. > > Good luck. > > > On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca <http://mjpienaar@shaw.ca > > > wrote: > > > Hi All, > > I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the next couple of > month's and have a few questions after going through the engine > installation manual. The motor is still in the crate and sealed so > I can't look too closely to see what I've got. > > It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal or external > regulator and are there any other electrical pointers you can give > me, I've looked at the engine installation manual but the quality > of the printing is so poor I can hardly read anything. > > Where do I get a starter buzzer? > > For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand operated pump" or has > anybody found a substitute for this. > > Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have any plans or > hints for this. > > I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to see what it looks > like is here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/ > > Thanks for the help > > Mike > > > ail Forum - > > ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List > ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > > matronics.com <http://matronics.com/> > ;- List Contribution Web Site - > ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > ://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List > > > a href="http://forums.matronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List > > > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?Lom-List > <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com <http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > > > - Release Date: 04/08/09 05:53:00 > > > ail Forum - > ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List > ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > matronics.com > ;- List Contribution Web Site - > ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > ://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?Lom-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// > www.matronics.com/c > - Release Date: 04/08/09 05:53:00 > >


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    Time: 05:17:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions
    From: Robert Feldtman <bobf@feldtman.com>
    will let you know the final. bobf On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Chris Kinnaman <dogspiritnow@yahoo.com>wrot e: > > > Glad you're OK, Bob. Keep us in the loop about the problems. > > Chris > > > --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Robert Feldtman <bobf@feldtman.com> wrote: > > > From: Robert Feldtman <bobf@feldtman.com> > > Subject: Re: Lom-List: Electrical, Fuel system and other questions > > To: lom-list@matronics.com > > Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 11:03 AM > > I converted the buzzer to a slick-start - starts much faster > > - Buzzers are > > about 500 bucks from Moravia in Canada. If you want mine, > > it is available > > contact me off line (bobf@feldtman.com) > > Ditto on the fuel pump. I do have a facet, for the purposes > > noted, and > > actually, put a line with a electrical temporary valve to > > prime the engine > > for start with the facet. > > I've just encountered some problems with my LOM, huge > > oil usage, an engine > > near failure on downwind at about 1000 feet, with sever > > rough and loss of > > power thank goodness I was on a "downwind leg" as > > I was departing the > > airport, and landed fine. > > We'll see what gives. > > > > I might be looking at some major work > > bobf > > > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Stephen Beaver > > <sbeaver@columbus.rr.com>wrote: > > > > > Yes, you probably need a regulator. Can=92t say which > > type without knowing > > > the alternator model. > > > Starter buzzers are advertised by Moravia ' Perhaps > > there is one in the box > > > with your engine ? > > > You most likely don=92t really need an external pump. > > The LOM fuel pump and > > > fuel injection system are one and the same. If it > > fails, an external pump is > > > not going to help. You could use a small Facet > > electric pump to prime the > > > plumbing on first start though. > > > You can make an oil tank or adapt one from another > > source. I made one from > > > cardboard to check fit, then cut it out of soft > > aluminum and had it welded > > > by an expert aluminum welder. > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/8/09 12:32 AM, "Mike Pienaar" > > <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I hope to be installing a supercharged M332 in the > > next couple of month's > > > and have a few questions after going through the > > engine installation manual. > > > The motor is still in the crate and sealed so I > > can't look too closely to > > > see what I've got. > > > > > > It has a 12 volt alternator, will it have an internal > > or external regulator > > > and are there any other electrical pointers you can > > give me, I've looked at > > > the engine installation manual but the quality of the > > printing is so poor I > > > can hardly read anything. > > > > > > Where do I get a starter buzzer? > > > > > > For the fuel system, where do I get a "hand > > operated pump" or has anybody > > > found a substitute for this. > > > > > > Has anybody built their own oil tank and do you have > > any plans or hints for > > > this. > > > > > > I'm building a low wing aircraft, best place to > > see what it looks like is > > > here http://kisbuild.onfinal18.com/ > > > > > > Thanks for the help > > > > > > Mike > > > * > > > > > > ail Forum - > > > ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List > > > ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > > > matronics.com > > > ;- List Contribution Web Site - > > > ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > > > ://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > =========== > > =========== > > =========== > > =========== > > > * > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > >




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