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     1. 09:01 AM - Re: LOM 332 engines in North America (sjbeaver@gmail.com)
     2. 04:32 PM - Re: LOM 332 engines in North America (David Harris)
     3. 04:42 PM - Re: LOM 332 engines in North America (sjbeaver@gmail.com)
     4. 04:45 PM - Re: LOM 332 engines in North America (sjbeaver@gmail.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:01:06 AM PST US
    From: sjbeaver@gmail.com
    Subject: Re: LOM 332 engines in North America
    David, I would think that is a (very) long shot. There are very few LOM engines in the USA, particularly the 4 cylinder models and of course you would need matching engines, not just any 332. Last year there were two projects for sale with the engines available separately. One was a 332 AK, the other the much older 332B. I suspect you would need the 332B with provision for a prop governor? The factory are exceedingly helpful and do great work, but as you say, they are pricy. There are other facilities in Poland, the Czech republic, and in Germany that do very good overhauls for less. That might be your best bet. Another possibility is Pavel Novak in Canada. He is an ex-factory technician and does LOM overhauls. Of course no matter who does the overhauls, they still buy the required parts from LOM. Good luck. Steve -- Stephen Beaver Tel: 219-232-8371 > On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:55 PM, David Harris <ddharris@ozemail.com.au> wrote: > > > I am looking for two M332 engines, available in the USA. > > We have, in Australia, an Aero145. If you know this aircraft, you would know that it has two LOM332 engines. Our aircraft went out of service in 1977, and the engines are no longer serviceable. Getting them back into working condition through LOM, in Prague, is expensive. > > I understand that, about 1 - 2 years ago, two LOM332=92s with about half their life remaining, were offered for sale in the USA. They were advertised in Barnstormer. Does anyone know of these engines, or other M332s which may be available? > > The reason for my interest is that there is a group in the USA which has expressed some interest in restoring our aircraft. However, the cost cost of new engines, and the hassles of getting our engines to Prague, getting them re-built, and getting them them to the USA, is daunting. Engines available in the USA would be a big help. > > David Harris > > > >


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    Time: 04:32:23 PM PST US
    From: David Harris <ddharris@ozemail.com.au>
    Subject: Re: LOM 332 engines in North America
    Thanks Steve. The story is that we had quite strong interest from a group in the USA, but the need for two new engines, plus freight from Australia to the USA was a hefty cost problem. I may try Pavel. I tried him for an engine for myself, but he wasn=92t able to provide one with full factory documentation, and that=92s what our bureaucrats demand. It is likely to be different in North America - otherwise I can=92t see how Pavel would have a business. We find ourselves between a rock and a hard place. One of the key guys in our restoration project - the one who owns the aircraft - has been diagnosed with Altzheimers. With this pressure and in the lack of a buyer we are facing the prospect of selling the aircraft for scrap. Incidentally, LOM actually have an OEM customer for new engines - a Russian company making small flying boats. Thanks again. David On 17 Aug 2015, at 1:30 am, sjbeaver@gmail.com wrote: > David, > > I would think that is a (very) long shot. There are very few LOM engines in the USA, particularly the 4 cylinder models and of course you would need matching engines, not just any 332. Last year there were two projects for sale with the engines available separately. One was a 332 AK, the other the much older 332B. > > I suspect you would need the 332B with provision for a prop governor? > > The factory are exceedingly helpful and do great work, but as you say, they are pricy. There are other facilities in Poland, the Czech republic, and in Germany that do very good overhauls for less. That might be your best bet. Another possibility is Pavel Novak in Canada. He is an ex-factory technician and does LOM overhauls. Of course no matter who does the overhauls, they still buy the required parts from LOM. > > Good luck. > > Steve > -- > Stephen Beaver > Tel: 219-232-8371 > >> On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:55 PM, David Harris <ddharris@ozemail.com.au> wrote: >> <ddharris@ozemail.com.au> >> >> I am looking for two M332 engines, available in the USA. >> >> We have, in Australia, an Aero145. If you know this aircraft, you would know that it has two LOM332 engines. Our aircraft went out of service in 1977, and the engines are no longer serviceable. Getting them back into working condition through LOM, in Prague, is expensive. >> >> I understand that, about 1 - 2 years ago, two LOM332=92s with about half their life remaining, were offered for sale in the USA. They were advertised in Barnstormer. Does anyone know of these engines, or other M332s which may be available? >> >> The reason for my interest is that there is a group in the USA which has expressed some interest in restoring our aircraft. However, the cost cost of new engines, and the hassles of getting our engines to Prague, getting them re-built, and getting them them to the USA, is daunting. Engines available in the USA would be a big help. >> >> David Harris >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List >> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 04:42:39 PM PST US
    From: sjbeaver@gmail.com
    Subject: Re: LOM 332 engines in North America
    In the US the aircraft would be certificated in the =93Experimental, exhibition=94 category and as such paperwork for the engines is minimal. Depending on the engine times, I would think that a strip and re-assemble is all that is required. The fuel injection system would go back to the factory but the engine core should be well within the capabilities go most US power plant mechanics. The factory overhaul manual is excellent. My guess is that the engines will require piston rings, possibly valve springs and all rubber components replacing. I did that sort of IRAN on my engine and it was quite straight forward. The factory were very supportive. I would be pleased to help anyone that wishes to undertake the work. LOM are working on a new light-weight version of the 332 for certain European LSA manufacturers. It has electronic ignition and the fuel injection pump has been moved to the former location of the might magneto making the engine a lot shorter than the =93standard=94 model. . It also has a much lighter starter and generator. It will be interesting to see if it make it to production. Have you advertised the aircraft in Europe? The market in Poland and the Czech Republic seems quite active at the moment. Steve -- Stephen Beaver Tel: 219-232-8371 > On Aug 16, 2015, at 7:32 PM, David Harris <ddharris@ozemail.com.au> wrote: > > Thanks Steve. > > The story is that we had quite strong interest from a group in the USA, but the need for two new engines, plus freight from Australia to the USA was a hefty cost problem. I may try Pavel. I tried him for an engine for myself, but he wasn=92t able to provide one with full factory documentation, and that=92s what our bureaucrats demand. It is likely to be different in North America - otherwise I can=92t see how Pavel would have a business. > > We find ourselves between a rock and a hard place. One of the key guys in our restoration project - the one who owns the aircraft - has been diagnosed with Altzheimers. With this pressure and in the lack of a buyer we are facing the prospect of selling the aircraft for scrap. > > Incidentally, LOM actually have an OEM customer for new engines - a Russian company making small flying boats. > > Thanks again. > > David > > On 17 Aug 2015, at 1:30 am, sjbeaver@gmail.com <mailto:sjbeaver@gmail.com> wrote: > >> David, >> >> I would think that is a (very) long shot. There are very few LOM engines in the USA, particularly the 4 cylinder models and of course you would need matching engines, not just any 332. Last year there were two projects for sale with the engines available separately. One was a 332 AK, the other the much older 332B. >> >> I suspect you would need the 332B with provision for a prop governor? >> >> The factory are exceedingly helpful and do great work, but as you say, they are pricy. There are other facilities in Poland, the Czech republic, and in Germany that do very good overhauls for less. That might be your best bet. Another possibility is Pavel Novak in Canada. He is an ex-factory technician and does LOM overhauls. Of course no matter who does the overhauls, they still buy the required parts from LOM. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Steve >> -- >> Stephen Beaver >> Tel: 219-232-8371 >> >>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:55 PM, David Harris <ddharris@ozemail.com.au <mailto:ddharris@ozemail.com.au>> wrote: >>> <ddharris@ozemail.com.au <mailto:ddharris@ozemail.com.au>> >>> >>> I am looking for two M332 engines, available in the USA. >>> >>> We have, in Australia, an Aero145. If you know this aircraft, you would know that it has two LOM332 engines. Our aircraft went out of service in 1977, and the engines are no longer serviceable. Getting them back into working condition through LOM, in Prague, is expensive. >>> >>> I understand that, about 1 - 2 years ago, two LOM332=92s with about half their life remaining, were offered for sale in the USA. They were advertised in Barnstormer. Does anyone know of these engines, or other M332s which may be available? >>> >>> The reason for my interest is that there is a group in the USA which has expressed some interest in restoring our aircraft. However, the cost cost of new engines, and the hassles of getting our engines to Prague, getting them re-built, and getting them them to the USA, is daunting. Engines available in the USA would be a big help. >>> >>> David Harris >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> >>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List>">http://www.matronics.com/Na vigator?Lom-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> >> href="http://forums.matronics.com/ <http://forums.matronics.com/>">http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>">http://www.matronics.com/contribu tion <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >> > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > >


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    Time: 04:45:19 PM PST US
    From: sjbeaver@gmail.com
    Subject: Re: LOM 332 engines in North America
    =9CRight=9D magneto, that is :) In the US the aircraft would be certificated in the =9CExperimental, exhibition=9D category and as such paperwork for the engines is minimal. Depending on the engine times, I would think that a strip and re-assemble is all that is required. The fuel injection system would go back to the factory but the engine core should be well within the capabilities go most US power plant mechanics. The factory overhaul manual is excellent. My guess is that the engines will require piston rings, possibly valve springs and all rubber components replacing. I did that sort of IRAN on my engine and it was quite straight forward. The factory were very supportive. I would be pleased to help anyone that wishes to undertake the work. LOM are working on a new light-weight version of the 332 for certain European LSA manufacturers. It has electronic ignition and the fuel injection pump has been moved to the former location of the might magneto making the engine a lot shorter than the =9Cstandard=9D model. . It also has a much lighter starter and generator. It will be interesting to see if it make it to production. Have you advertised the aircraft in Europe? The market in Poland and the Czech Republic seems quite active at the moment. Steve -- Stephen Beaver Tel: 219-232-8371 > On Aug 16, 2015, at 7:32 PM, David Harris <ddharris@ozemail.com.au <mailto:ddharris@ozemail.com.au>> wrote: > > Thanks Steve. > > The story is that we had quite strong interest from a group in the USA, but the need for two new engines, plus freight from Australia to the USA was a hefty cost problem. I may try Pavel. I tried him for an engine for myself, but he wasn=99t able to provide one with full factory documentation, and that=99s what our bureaucrats demand. It is likely to be different in North America - otherwise I can=99t see how Pavel would have a business. > > We find ourselves between a rock and a hard place. One of the key guys in our restoration project - the one who owns the aircraft - has been diagnosed with Altzheimers. With this pressure and in the lack of a buyer we are facing the prospect of selling the aircraft for scrap. > > Incidentally, LOM actually have an OEM customer for new engines - a Russian company making small flying boats. > > Thanks again. > > David > > On 17 Aug 2015, at 1:30 am, sjbeaver@gmail.com <mailto:sjbeaver@gmail.com> wrote: > >> David, >> >> I would think that is a (very) long shot. There are very few LOM engines in the USA, particularly the 4 cylinder models and of course you would need matching engines, not just any 332. Last year there were two projects for sale with the engines available separately. One was a 332 AK, the other the much older 332B. >> >> I suspect you would need the 332B with provision for a prop governor? >> >> The factory are exceedingly helpful and do great work, but as you say, they are pricy. There are other facilities in Poland, the Czech republic, and in Germany that do very good overhauls for less. That might be your best bet. Another possibility is Pavel Novak in Canada. He is an ex-factory technician and does LOM overhauls. Of course no matter who does the overhauls, they still buy the required parts from LOM. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Steve >> -- >> Stephen Beaver >> Tel: 219-232-8371 >> >>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:55 PM, David Harris <ddharris@ozemail.com.au <mailto:ddharris@ozemail.com.au>> wrote: >>> <ddharris@ozemail.com.au <mailto:ddharris@ozemail.com.au>> >>> >>> I am looking for two M332 engines, available in the USA. >>> >>> We have, in Australia, an Aero145. If you know this aircraft, you would know that it has two LOM332 engines. Our aircraft went out of service in 1977, and the engines are no longer serviceable. Getting them back into working condition through LOM, in Prague, is expensive. >>> >>> I understand that, about 1 - 2 years ago, two LOM332=99s with about half their life remaining, were offered for sale in the USA. They were advertised in Barnstormer. Does anyone know of these engines, or other M332s which may be available? >>> >>> The reason for my interest is that there is a group in the USA which has expressed some interest in restoring our aircraft. However, the cost cost of new engines, and the hassles of getting our engines to Prague, getting them re-built, and getting them them to the USA, is daunting. Engines available in the USA would be a big help. >>> >>> David Harris >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> >>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List>">http://www.matronics.com/Na vigator?Lom-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> >> href="http://forums.matronics.com/ <http://forums.matronics.com/>">http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com/> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>">http://www.matronics.com/contribu tion <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> >> > > > <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lom-List> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > >




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