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Fri 05/30/08


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     1. 01:15 AM - Re: Embarassing Confession -- I Can't Start My Engine (Grant Piper)
     2. 04:57 AM - Re: Embarassing Confession -- I Can't Start My Engine (Dale Ensing)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:15:21 AM PST US
    From: "Grant Piper" <grant.piper@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: Embarassing Confession -- I Can't Start My Engine
    I have the same engine and primer system in my RV-4. I prime for about 3 bananas when cold (below 15=B0C) and open the throttle about 1/4" or so, then crank. My carb has the Mooney mod to enrichen it over the original jet (can't recall mod number, but it is too rich at low altitude now, i aggressively lean on the ground). If it is a warm day, I'll just pump the throttle once, set 1/4", then crank. If the engine is warm I'll open the throttle wider initially, ~1/2", and progressively open it as I crank until it fires, then quickly back to idle. If this doesn't work, I'll re-prime, but less than for a cold start. I always start on the left maggie only, then switch on the right mag as soon as it fires (I have individual toggle switches). If this doesn't work for you, I'd check the magneto switch wiring. I stuffed mine up iniitially and was trying to start on the RH mag only (non-impulse), and had obvious trouble! (amazed that I managed to start it as often as I did!). good luck Grant ----- Original Message ----- From: r falstad To: LycomingEngines-List Digest Server Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:43 PM Subject: LycomingEngines-List: Embarassing Confession -- I Can't Start My Engine Folks, I have about ten hours of my Phase I flying on a GlaStar with an O-360-A1A. The engine has new rings and exhaust valves so I've been running it hard and full rich. The engine has become increasingly difficult to start and I want to make sure it isn't my technique before I start pulling plugs, etc. I haven't flown in the ten years it took me to build the airplane and my total time in that time (not including the ten hours in the GlaStar) has been about 14 hours of recent recurrency training in other people's airplanes. I've used the normal start (full rich and throttle cracked about 1/4" inch) but it doesn't want to fire. I've also used (sparingly) primer for a couple of seconds (my primer is electric to cylinders 3 & 4). The problem is worse when the engine is hot (and it's already hot outside here in central Texas -- 85 to 95 degrees). I've also used the flooded engine start (mixture at idle cut-off and throttle full forward) when the engine wouldn't start with the normal technique. At least this was the technique I used years ago in an injected Mooney for hot starts. How can I tell if it's not getting enough fuel, too much fuel, or if my plugs have fouled because of a too rich mixture? I have been leaning the engine when taxiing. Best regards, Bob


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    Time: 04:57:50 AM PST US
    From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Embarassing Confession -- I Can't Start My Engine
    Is it carbureted or injected? ----- Original Message ----- From: r falstad To: LycomingEngines-List Digest Server Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:43 PM Subject: LycomingEngines-List: Embarassing Confession -- I Can't Start My Engine Folks, I have about ten hours of my Phase I flying on a GlaStar with an O-360-A1 A. The engine has new rings and exhaust valves so I've been running it har d and full rich. The engine has become increasingly difficult to start and I want to make sure it isn't my technique before I start pulling plugs, et c. I haven't flown in the ten years it took me to build the airplane and m y total time in that time (not including the ten hours in the GlaStar) has been about 14 hours of recent recurrency training in other people's airplan es. I've used the normal start (full rich and throttle cracked about 1/4" inc h) but it doesn't want to fire. I've also used (sparingly) primer for a co uple of seconds (my primer is electric to cylinders 3 & 4). The problem is worse when the engine is hot (and it's already hot outside here in central Texas -- 85 to 95 degrees). I've also used the flooded engine start (mixture at idle cut-off and thro ttle full forward) when the engine wouldn't start with the normal technique . At least this was the technique I used years ago in an injected Mooney f or hot starts. How can I tell if it's not getting enough fuel, too much fuel, or if my p lugs have fouled because of a too rich mixture? I have been leaning the en gine when taxiing. Best regards, Bob




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