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1. 06:25 AM - Oil change (Ralph E. Capen)
2. 06:47 AM - Re: Oil change (Ollie Washburn)
3. 07:44 AM - Re: Oil change (James Robinson)
4. 07:54 AM - Re: Oil change (Ralph E. Capen)
5. 07:57 AM - Re: Oil change (Ralph E. Capen)
6. 08:49 AM - Re: Oil change (J. Mcculley)
7. 08:49 AM - Re: Oil change (James Robinson)
8. 08:54 AM - Re: Oil change (James Robinson)
9. 09:03 AM - Re: Oil change (Ralph E. Capen)
10. 09:04 AM - Re: Oil change (Ralph E. Capen)
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Folks,
I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the first oil change.
It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting a fresh batch of mineral
oil in it to continue the break-in.
I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is experience with
a lycoming. The drain plug appears to be straight-forward as does the oil-filter.
I'm thinking shortly after a flight to get the oil hot and drain better
is the right time.
Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs to be cleaned
also? Where is it? How do I remove it? What does it look like?
Thanks,
Ralph
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Filter takes place of screen. If you have a filter there should be no
screen to clean.
Ollie
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>wrote:
> recapen@earthlink.net>
>
> Folks,
>
> I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the first oil
> change. It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting a fresh batch of
> mineral oil in it to continue the break-in.
>
> I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is
> experience with a lycoming. The drain plug appears to be straight-forward
> as does the oil-filter. I'm thinking shortly after a flight to get the oil
> hot and drain better is the right time.
>
> Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs to be
> cleaned also? Where is it? How do I remove it? What does it look like?
>
> Thanks,
> Ralph
>
>
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Ralph
What Lyc are talking about???
James Robinson
Glasair lll N79R
Spanish Fork UT U77
________________________________
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:51:57 AM
Subject: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
Folks,
I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the first oil change.
It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting a fresh batch of mineral
oil in it to continue the break-in.
I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is experience with
a lycoming. The drain plug appears to be straight-forward as does the oil-filter.
I'm thinking shortly after a flight to get the oil hot and drain better
is the right time.
Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs to be cleaned
also? Where is it? How do I remove it? What does it look like?
Thanks,
Ralph
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I did get a picture forwarded to me directly by a list subscriber......
-----Original Message-----
>From: James Robinson <jbr79r@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jun 2, 2009 10:41 AM
>To: lycomingengines-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>
>Ralph
>What Lyc are talking about???
>
> James Robinson
>Glasair lll N79R
>Spanish Fork UT U77
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
>To: lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:51:57 AM
>Subject: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>
>
>Folks,
>
>I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the first oil change.
It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting a fresh batch of mineral
oil in it to continue the break-in.
>
>I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is experience
with a lycoming. The drain plug appears to be straight-forward as does the oil-filter.
I'm thinking shortly after a flight to get the oil hot and drain better
is the right time.
>
>Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs to be cleaned
also? Where is it? How do I remove it? What does it look like?
>
>Thanks,
>Ralph
>
>
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180hp IO360B1F6 - I got a picture directly from a list subscriber.
-----Original Message-----
>From: James Robinson <jbr79r@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jun 2, 2009 10:41 AM
>To: lycomingengines-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>
>Ralph
>What Lyc are talking about???
>
> James Robinson
>Glasair lll N79R
>Spanish Fork UT U77
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
>To: lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:51:57 AM
>Subject: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>
>
>Folks,
>
>I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the first oil change.
It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting a fresh batch of mineral
oil in it to continue the break-in.
>
>I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is experience
with a lycoming. The drain plug appears to be straight-forward as does the oil-filter.
I'm thinking shortly after a flight to get the oil hot and drain better
is the right time.
>
>Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs to be cleaned
also? Where is it? How do I remove it? What does it look like?
>
>Thanks,
>Ralph
>
>
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There is a screen located near the bottom of the oil sump (usually at
the right rear bottom corner) that filters any coarse particles within
the sump to prevent them from being pulled into the return line that
feeds the oil pump on the rear accessory case where the oil filter and
vernatherm, etc are located.
By cutting the safety wire that retains the access plug to this coarse
screen, you will be able to pull out with your fingers the screen to
observe and remove any debris. There will sometimes be material that was
present during the overhaul or assembly line. This will not normally be
true if a proper clean environment existed during engine assembly.
However, it is wise to check this screen at every oil change to
determine whether large bits of metal have broken loose. This source of
early knowledge about engine internal condition will not necessarily be
available via periodic oil sample laboratory analysis, but can alert you
to major problems that will not necessarily be found in other ways.
Be sure to use a new copper gasket under the plug when you replace the
screen. DON'T remove the plug to access the screen until AFTER the oil
sump has been completely drained to avoid being flooded with oil!!
There is a particular way to install the copper gasket and a specific
way to properly torque the plug. It is based on the size of the gasket
and the plug is to be turned a specific number of rotational degrees
beyond the point where it is just finger snug by hand. This info is
available in the overhaul manual or can be obtained from most tables of
torque values for standard aviation hardware.
Jim McCulley
============================================================================================
Ollie Washburn wrote:
> Filter takes place of screen. If you have a filter there should be no
> screen to clean.
> Ollie
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net
> <mailto:recapen@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
> <recapen@earthlink.net <mailto:recapen@earthlink.net>>
>
> Folks,
>
> I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the
> first oil change. It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting
> a fresh batch of mineral oil in it to continue the break-in.
>
> I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is
> experience with a lycoming. The drain plug appears to be
> straight-forward as does the oil-filter. I'm thinking shortly after
> a flight to get the oil hot and drain better is the right time.
>
> Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs
> to be cleaned also? Where is it? How do I remove it? What does it
> look like?
>
> Thanks,
> Ralph
>
>
>
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On my IO540k1g5 it is on the side of the sump on the pilot side and is just behind
the drain valve. I don't have any knowledge of your engine to help you.
Sorry
James Robinson
Glasair lll N79R
Spanish Fork UT U77
________________________________
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:56:04 AM
Subject: Re: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
180hp IO360B1F6 - I got a picture directly from a list subscriber.
-----Original Message-----
>From: James Robinson <jbr79r@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jun 2, 2009 10:41 AM
>To: lycomingengines-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>
>Ralph
>What Lyc are talking about???
>
> James Robinson
>Glasair lll N79R
>Spanish Fork UT U77
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
>To: lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:51:57 AM
>Subject: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>
>
>Folks,
>
>I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the first oil change.
It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting a fresh batch of mineral
oil in it to continue the break-in.
>
>I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is experience
with a lycoming. The drain plug appears to be straight-forward as does the oil-filter.
I'm thinking shortly after a flight to get the oil hot and drain better
is the right time.
>
>Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs to be cleaned
also? Where is it? How do I remove it? What does it look like?
>
>Thanks,
>Ralph
>
>
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I just read the post from someone saying that "If there is a filte there is no
screen" I think this is only partially correct. On some engines there is a screen
replacing the filter. However on my engine I have a sump screen that filters
oil as it leaves the engine oil sump. A course screen for big pieces, not
meant to replace the filter. You definately want to check this during oil
changes.
James Robinson
Glasair lll N79R
Spanish Fork UT U77
________________________________
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:56:04 AM
Subject: Re: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
180hp IO360B1F6 - I got a picture directly from a list subscriber.
-----Original Message-----
>From: James Robinson <jbr79r@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jun 2, 2009 10:41 AM
>To: lycomingengines-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>
>Ralph
>What Lyc are talking about???
>
> James Robinson
>Glasair lll N79R
>Spanish Fork UT U77
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
>To: lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:51:57 AM
>Subject: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>
>
>Folks,
>
>I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the first oil change.
It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting a fresh batch of mineral
oil in it to continue the break-in.
>
>I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is experience
with a lycoming. The drain plug appears to be straight-forward as does the oil-filter.
I'm thinking shortly after a flight to get the oil hot and drain better
is the right time.
>
>Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs to be cleaned
also? Where is it? How do I remove it? What does it look like?
>
>Thanks,
>Ralph
>
>
Message 9
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Thanks - I'll dig out my books for the screen torque value....and the drain bolt....unless
someone has it handy.......
-----Original Message-----
>From: "J. Mcculley" <mcculleyja@starpower.net>
>Sent: Jun 2, 2009 11:44 AM
>To: lycomingengines-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>
>
>There is a screen located near the bottom of the oil sump (usually at
>the right rear bottom corner) that filters any coarse particles within
>the sump to prevent them from being pulled into the return line that
>feeds the oil pump on the rear accessory case where the oil filter and
>vernatherm, etc are located.
>
>By cutting the safety wire that retains the access plug to this coarse
>screen, you will be able to pull out with your fingers the screen to
>observe and remove any debris. There will sometimes be material that was
>present during the overhaul or assembly line. This will not normally be
>true if a proper clean environment existed during engine assembly.
>However, it is wise to check this screen at every oil change to
>determine whether large bits of metal have broken loose. This source of
>early knowledge about engine internal condition will not necessarily be
>available via periodic oil sample laboratory analysis, but can alert you
>to major problems that will not necessarily be found in other ways.
>
>Be sure to use a new copper gasket under the plug when you replace the
>screen. DON'T remove the plug to access the screen until AFTER the oil
>sump has been completely drained to avoid being flooded with oil!!
>
>There is a particular way to install the copper gasket and a specific
>way to properly torque the plug. It is based on the size of the gasket
>and the plug is to be turned a specific number of rotational degrees
>beyond the point where it is just finger snug by hand. This info is
>available in the overhaul manual or can be obtained from most tables of
>torque values for standard aviation hardware.
>
>Jim McCulley
>============================================================================================
>
>Ollie Washburn wrote:
>> Filter takes place of screen. If you have a filter there should be no
>> screen to clean.
>> Ollie
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net
>> <mailto:recapen@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>>
>> <recapen@earthlink.net <mailto:recapen@earthlink.net>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the
>> first oil change. It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting
>> a fresh batch of mineral oil in it to continue the break-in.
>>
>> I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is
>> experience with a lycoming. The drain plug appears to be
>> straight-forward as does the oil-filter. I'm thinking shortly after
>> a flight to get the oil hot and drain better is the right time.
>>
>> Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs
>> to be cleaned also? Where is it? How do I remove it? What does it
>> look like?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>>
>> ==========
>> nes-List"
>> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?LycomingEngines-List
>> ==========
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>> ==========
>> le, List Admin.
>> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> ==========
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I got a picture from Lycoming - it shows a finger screen in the sump - not on the
case...where the filter is.
I just need the torque values for the threads.....
-----Original Message-----
>From: James Robinson <jbr79r@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jun 2, 2009 11:53 AM
>To: lycomingengines-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>
>I just read the post from someone saying that "If there is a filte there is no
screen" I think this is only partially correct. On some engines there is a
screen replacing the filter. However on my engine I have a sump screen that filters
oil as it leaves the engine oil sump. A course screen for big pieces,
not meant to replace the filter. You definately want to check this during oil
changes.
>
>
> James Robinson
>Glasair lll N79R
>Spanish Fork UT U77
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
>To: lycomingengines-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:56:04 AM
>Subject: Re: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>
>
>180hp IO360B1F6 - I got a picture directly from a list subscriber.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: James Robinson <jbr79r@yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Jun 2, 2009 10:41 AM
>>To: lycomingengines-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>>
>>Ralph
>>What Lyc are talking about???
>>
>> James Robinson
>>Glasair lll N79R
>>Spanish Fork UT U77
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
>>To: lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 6:51:57 AM
>>Subject: LycomingEngines-List: Oil change
>>
>>
>>Folks,
>>
>>I have about fifteen hours on my plane and am thinking about the first oil change.
It's still not broken in yet - so I'll be putting a fresh batch of mineral
oil in it to continue the break-in.
>>
>>I have oil, filter, safety wire, and tools....what I don't have is experience
with a lycoming. The drain plug appears to be straight-forward as does the oil-filter.
I'm thinking shortly after a flight to get the oil hot and drain better
is the right time.
>>
>>Does anyone have pictures of the strainer screen that I'm told needs to be cleaned
also? Where is it? How do I remove it? What does it look like?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ralph
>>
>>
>
>
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