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| Subject: | Re: Problems with Tanis engine preservation kit |
Sorry Charlie... Whoops Alan:
Wish you would have posted your question before going the Tanis route. A
waste of money.
Are you 'Pickling' the while the engine is still on the plane and is it
outside or in a NON heated hanger?
Desiccant is like the third line of defense - Not the First.
It WILL turn blue with in a week of rainy WX if outside or in a non heated
hanger.
The best you can do is get COSMOLINE and spray down the engine and pump it
through the engine.
Second best is something like Philips 66 Preservative oil.
Then seal off the exhausts and intake. The better the seal the better the
Pickling. Putting a 'D' Bag in does NOTHING. Especially when you can't
inspect the bag.
As for the duct tape and oil ... Can't blame Tanis.
SPRAY the preservative oil inside the cylinders, as a minimal action.
Also if you visit the engine about once a month - Make up a Pre-Oiler and
pump around the preservative oil. This will do lots in the way of
prevention.
How long are you storing the engine for?
Barry
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Alan Barnett <alansbarnett@verizon.net>wrote:
> alansbarnett@verizon.net>
>
> I recently bought the Tanis engine preservation kit to preserve my
> Lycoming 0-320 B2B engine with an aftermarket fuel injection system.
>
> The price of the kit seemed excessive, but I was unable to find an
> alternative source for the two types of preservative oil.
>
> In addition to the preservative oil, the kit contains four desiccant
> plugs, bags of desiccants, and some duct tape.
>
> The Lycoming maintenance bulletin recommends replacing the spark plugs
> with desiccant plugs and placing dessicants in the intake and exhaust
> passages and sealing them.
>
> The desiccant plugs didn't fit in the spark plug holes, and the kit only
> contained three bags of desiccants, when I need five (one for each
> exhaust pipe, plus one for the intake manifold.
>
> I was also unable to get the duct tape to stick to the intake manifold
> due to a thin coating of oil that had dripped on it when I changed the
> oil filter.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Problems with Tanis engine preservation kit |
> Sorry Charlie... Whoops Alan:
>
> Wish you would have posted your question before going the Tanis route.
> A waste of money.
I wish I had also.
>
> Are you 'Pickling' the while the engine is still on the plane and is
> it outside or in a NON heated hanger?
The engine is on the plane, which is in my heated garage with the wings
and canard removed.
>
> Desiccant is like the third line of defense - Not the First.
> It WILL turn blue with in a week of rainy WX if outside or in a non
> heated hanger.
>
> The best you can do is get COSMOLINE and spray down the engine and
> pump it through the engine.
> Second best is something like Philips 66 Preservative oil.
I did that. I also ran the engine to get the oil temp up to 180 degrees.
> Then seal off the exhausts and intake. The better the seal the better
> the Pickling. Putting a 'D' Bag in does NOTHING. Especially when you
> can't inspect the bag.
> As for the duct tape and oil ... Can't blame Tanis.
>
> SPRAY the preservative oil inside the cylinders, as a minimal action.
Done.
> Also if you visit the engine about once a month - Make up a Pre-Oiler
> and pump around the preservative oil.
I can visit the engine every day. Can you point me to info on making
and using a pre-oiler?
> This will do lots in the way of prevention.
> How long are you storing the engine for?
About 5 months. I'm upgrading the panel, and I hope to have it
completed by spring.
>
> Barry
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Alan Barnett
> <alansbarnett@verizon.net <mailto:alansbarnett@verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> <alansbarnett@verizon.net <mailto:alansbarnett@verizon.net>>
>
> I recently bought the Tanis engine preservation kit to preserve my
> Lycoming 0-320 B2B engine with an aftermarket fuel injection system.
>
> The price of the kit seemed excessive, but I was unable to find an
> alternative source for the two types of preservative oil.
>
> In addition to the preservative oil, the kit contains four desiccant
> plugs, bags of desiccants, and some duct tape.
>
> The Lycoming maintenance bulletin recommends replacing the spark plugs
> with desiccant plugs and placing dessicants in the intake and exhaust
> passages and sealing them.
>
> The desiccant plugs didn't fit in the spark plug holes, and the
> kit only
> contained three bags of desiccants, when I need five (one for each
> exhaust pipe, plus one for the intake manifold.
>
> I was also unable to get the duct tape to stick to the intake manifold
> due to a thin coating of oil that had dripped on it when I changed the
> oil filter.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Problems with Tanis engine preservation kit |
Alan:
Here is a picture of a very simple Pre-Oiler that I made. Cost, less than
$20. $40 if you consider the cost of a air pump.
The top is screwed off to pour in the oil. (1 Qt)
Then it is pressurized to 100 - 125 PSI
Plug the Engine with a cap.
The end of the clear plastic tube is connected to the IN side of the oil
cooler
and -
Then plug the oil cooler with the cap.
Then connect to the OUT side of the engine.
This will squirt the oil around at the same pressure ans a running engine.
Drain (1 Qt) from the bottom of the sump and reuse it.
I have used this method 4 times so far and the engine looks great when
inspected with a bore scope. Mater of fact - THIS is more oil saturation
than most planes get in two or three months... Think of it this way: Look
at the planes on the field. How many of them do you see flying? So this
type of oiling is very good for your plane.
Barry
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Alan Barnett <alansbarnett@verizon.net>wrote:
> **
>
>
> Sorry Charlie... Whoops Alan:
>
> Wish you would have posted your question before going the Tanis route. A
> waste of money.
>
> I wish I had also.
>
>
> Are you 'Pickling' the while the engine is still on the plane and is it
> outside or in a NON heated hanger?
>
> The engine is on the plane, which is in my heated garage with the wings
> and canard removed.
>
>
> Desiccant is like the third line of defense - Not the First.
> It WILL turn blue with in a week of rainy WX if outside or in a non heated
> hanger.
>
> The best you can do is get COSMOLINE and spray down the engine and pump
> it through the engine.
> Second best is something like Philips 66 Preservative oil.
>
> I did that. I also ran the engine to get the oil temp up to 180 degrees.
>
> Then seal off the exhausts and intake. The better the seal the better
> the Pickling. Putting a 'D' Bag in does NOTHING. Especially when you
> can't inspect the bag.
> As for the duct tape and oil ... Can't blame Tanis.
>
> SPRAY the preservative oil inside the cylinders, as a minimal action.
>
> Done.
>
> Also if you visit the engine about once a month - Make up a Pre-Oiler
> and pump around the preservative oil.
>
> I can visit the engine every day. Can you point me to info on making and
> using a pre-oiler?
>
> This will do lots in the way of prevention.
> How long are you storing the engine for?
>
> About 5 months. I'm upgrading the panel, and I hope to have it completed
> by spring.
>
>
> Barry
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Alan Barnett <alansbarnett@verizon.net>wrote:
>
>> alansbarnett@verizon.net>
>>
>> I recently bought the Tanis engine preservation kit to preserve my
>> Lycoming 0-320 B2B engine with an aftermarket fuel injection system.
>>
>> The price of the kit seemed excessive, but I was unable to find an
>> alternative source for the two types of preservative oil.
>>
>> In addition to the preservative oil, the kit contains four desiccant
>> plugs, bags of desiccants, and some duct tape.
>>
>> The Lycoming maintenance bulletin recommends replacing the spark plugs
>> with desiccant plugs and placing dessicants in the intake and exhaust
>> passages and sealing them.
>>
>> The desiccant plugs didn't fit in the spark plug holes, and the kit only
>> contained three bags of desiccants, when I need five (one for each
>> exhaust pipe, plus one for the intake manifold.
>>
>> I was also unable to get the duct tape to stick to the intake manifold
>> due to a thin coating of oil that had dripped on it when I changed the
>> oil filter.
>>
>>
>>
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>
> *
>
>
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