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1. 06:22 AM - AvGas Available at local MoGas Stations (FLYaDIVE)
2. 06:33 AM - Re: AvGas Available at local MoGas Stations (Ralph & Maria Finch)
3. 07:00 AM - Re: AvGas Available at local MoGas Stations (Harley)
4. 07:30 AM - A follow up to the AvGas MoGas Mix Up (FLYaDIVE)
5. 08:57 AM - Re: A follow up to the AvGas MoGas Mix Up (Harley)
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| Subject: | AvGas Available at local MoGas Stations |
Gang:
I was just informed of an article in the NEWARK STAR LEDGER (NEWARK, NJ
NEWSPAPER), Page 21.
Gas Stations being shut down because they are selling AVIATION GAS!!!
Too bad I did not know which station were selling it... I would have loaded
up! Especially at $3.60 a Gallon. <-- High Test. Maybe it was in the
REGULAR Pumps at $3.26 a Gallon???
But, the questions have to be asked:
1 - If there is so much control over AvGas <--- So they say as to keep
prices high. Where was the control on the delivery?
2 - Was AvGAs put into uncontrolled MoGas delivery vehicles?
3 - Was MoGas put into uncontrolled AvGas delivery vehicles?
4 - Have the Controlled Delivery Vehicles now been contaminated with MoGas?
5 - OMG ! ! ! ... What will our Ever Vigilant EPA do now that LEAD is being
burned by surface vehicles? And...
6 - Who picks up the $TAB$ on the destroyed Catalytic Converters. <--- NJ
in all their wisdom has done away with automobile inspection. Except
for EMISSIONS TESTING. So, if your car fails and you don't even know you
had a load of AvGas who pays for the repairs??? AND even if you do know...
WHO PAYS!
No coffee as yet so these are the only questions I can come up with at this
time.
Maybe you have a few to ask?
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: AvGas Available at local MoGas Stations |
Pretty sure that's where they had put jet fuel, not 100LL, into the car gas t
anks at the stations.
RF
On Dec 13, 2012, at 6:19, FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gang:
>
> I was just informed of an article in the NEWARK STAR LEDGER (NEWARK, NJ NE
WSPAPER), Page 21.
>
> Gas Stations being shut down because they are selling AVIATION GAS!!!
>
> Too bad I did not know which station were selling it... I would have loade
d up! Especially at $3.60 a Gallon. <-- High Test. Maybe it was in the REG
ULAR Pumps at $3.26 a Gallon???
> But, the questions have to be asked:
> 1 - If there is so much control over AvGas <--- So they say as to keep pri
ces high. Where was the control on the delivery?
> 2 - Was AvGAs put into uncontrolled MoGas delivery vehicles?
> 3 - Was MoGas put into uncontrolled AvGas delivery vehicles?
> 4 - Have the Controlled Delivery Vehicles now been contaminated with MoGas
?
> 5 - OMG ! ! ! ... What will our Ever Vigilant EPA do now that LEAD is bein
g burned by surface vehicles? And...
> 6 - Who picks up the $TAB$ on the destroyed Catalytic Converters. <--- NJ i
n all their wisdom has done away with automobile inspection. Except for EMI
SSIONS TESTING. So, if your car fails and you don't even know you had a loa
d of AvGas who pays for the repairs??? AND even if you do know... WHO PAYS!
>
> No coffee as yet so these are the only questions I can come up with at thi
s time.
> Maybe you have a few to ask?
>
>
> Barry
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AvGas Available at local MoGas Stations |
Yep, it was...the report I heard here on my local station said it
was jet-a...the cars that filled up with it quit running. I
doubt we would have heard many complaints if they had filled up
with 100LL!
Harley
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On 12/13/2012 9:31 AM, Ralph & Maria Finch wrote:
> Pretty sure that's where they had put jet fuel, not 100LL, into
> the car gas tanks at the stations.
>
> RF
>
> On Dec 13, 2012, at 6:19, FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com
> <mailto:flyadive@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Gang:
>>
>> I was just informed of an article in the NEWARK STAR LEDGER
>> (NEWARK, NJ NEWSPAPER), Page 21.
>>
>> Gas Stations being shut down because they are selling AVIATION
>> GAS!!!
>>
>> Too bad I did not know which station were selling it... I
>> would have loaded up! Especially at $3.60 a Gallon. <-- High
>> Test. Maybe it was in the REGULAR Pumps at $3.26 a Gallon???
>> But, the questions have to be asked:
>> 1 - If there is so much control over AvGas <--- So they say as
>> to keep prices high. Where was the control on the delivery?
>> 2 - Was AvGAs put into uncontrolled MoGas delivery vehicles?
>> 3 - Was MoGas put into uncontrolled AvGas delivery vehicles?
>> 4 - Have the Controlled Delivery Vehicles now
>> been contaminated with MoGas?
>> 5 - OMG ! ! ! ... What will our Ever Vigilant EPA do now that
>> LEAD is being burned by surface vehicles? And...
>> 6 - Who picks up the $TAB$ on
>> the destroyed Catalytic Converters. <--- NJ in all
>> their wisdom has done away with automobile inspection. Except
>> for EMISSIONS TESTING. So, if your car fails and you don't
>> even know you had a load of AvGas who pays for the repairs???
>> AND even if you do know... WHO PAYS!
>>
>> No coffee as yet so these are the only questions I can come up
>> with at this time.
>> Maybe you have a few to ask?
>>
>>
>> Barry
>> *
>>
>> *
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| Subject: | A follow up to the AvGas MoGas Mix Up |
Six NJ Gas Stations Mistakenly Fed
100LL<http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/100LL_delivered_new_jersey_gas_stations_lead_fuel_207840-1.html>
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(Dec 12 2012)
The state of New Jersey confirmed Wednesday that six automotive gas
stations received and sold leaded aviation fuel to drivers before the
mistake was discovered and the sales were shut down. The fuel was delivered
by eight tankers between Dec. 5 and Dec. 7 to six gas stations owned by the
same company. In a statement from the Division of Consumer Affairs, the
fuel was not directly identified as 100LL. The agency said the fuel was
"rated at 104.7 octane compared to 93 octane for super unleaded," and
contained "a small amount of lead." It was mistakenly sold to motorists as
super unleaded. According to the agency, it "should not cause damage to
vehicles engines." Click through for a link to the release from Consumer
Affairs and a list of affected stations.
This is from the AV WEB site:
http://www.avweb.com/cgi-bin/texis/scripts/avweb-search/search.html?query=aviation+gas&x=43&y=11
They think it will not affect the engine... The engine NO! But
the Catalytic Converter and maybe the O2 Sensor and the MAP Sensor?
Barry
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| Subject: | Re: A follow up to the AvGas MoGas Mix Up |
I wasn't kidding when I said I heard it was jet fuel, not
100LL...Is it something with the state of New jersey? I hadn't
heard about the 100LL mixup. This is the report I heard locally,
and found here:
www.businessinsider.com/nj-gas-station-fills-cars-with-jet-fuel-2012-12
An excerpt from the report:
"Cars were unknowingly filled with jet fuel yesterday after a
fuel delivery service
<http://www.businessinsider.com/nj-gas-station-fills-cars-with-jet-fuel-2012-12#>
accidentally filled a pump at a Keyport, New Jersey gas station
with kerosene, CBS New York reported
<http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/09/cars-stall-out-after-jet-fuel-is-delivered-to-new-jersey-gas-station/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter>.
After filling up, the cars stalled. Car engines cannot combust
jet fuel
A Lukoil station in Manasquan, New Jersey, also received the jet
fuel"
Harley
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On 12/13/2012 10:28 AM, FLYaDIVE wrote:
> Six NJ Gas Stations Mistakenly Fed 100LL
> <http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/100LL_delivered_new_jersey_gas_stations_lead_fuel_207840-1.html> -
> (Dec 12 2012)
>
> The state of New Jersey confirmed Wednesday that six automotive
> gas stations received and sold leaded aviation fuel to drivers
> before the mistake was discovered and the sales were shut down.
> The fuel was delivered by eight tankers between Dec. 5 and Dec.
> 7 to six gas stations owned by the same company. In a statement
> from the Division of Consumer Affairs, the fuel was not
> directly identified as 100LL. The agency said the fuel was
> "rated at 104.7 octane compared to 93 octane for super
> unleaded," and contained "a small amount of lead." It was
> mistakenly sold to motorists as super unleaded. According to
> the agency, it "should not cause damage to vehicles
> engines." Click through for a link to the release from Consumer
> Affairs and a list of affected stations.
>
> This is from the AV WEB site:
> http://www.avweb.com/cgi-bin/texis/scripts/avweb-search/search.html?query=aviation+gas&x=43&y=11
>
> They think it will not affect the engine... The engine NO! But
> the Catalytic Converter and maybe the O2 Sensor and the MAP Sensor?
>
>
> Barry
>
>
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