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1. 01:08 AM - Re: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 (Tim Andres)
2. 01:56 AM - Re: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 (Airdog77)
3. 11:57 AM - Re: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 (Michele Delsol)
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| Subject: | Re: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 |
11.7 open circuit voltage is not fully charged. Go to Odyssey's website and read
up on the battery. It charges differently than most batteries using a special
charger. As already noted many people have reported these batteries don't do
well when constantly connected to a charger, nor do they appreciate being fully
discharged. Then may be recovered and the process is on their website.
Once you have a fully charged battery, if you still have problems you will need
to look for the problem with a voltmeter. Starter relays are among the most common
problem but until you know where the voltage drop is occurring by measuring
it your only guessing. Get a fully charged battery, testing it using Odyssey's
instructions. If you still have problems, I'd suggest you go the AeroElectric
group on Matronics for more specific help.
Good luck
Tim
> On Jun 10, 2014, at 10:18 AM, George Nielsen <genie@swissmail.org> wrote:
>
>
> For several months my RV-6 has experienced starting problems. At first go the
engine would hardly turn as there did not seem to be enough power from the starter
motor. After repeated attempts things would progressively improve until
there was enough power to start the engine. Since the end of last month the starter
motor has simply not been able to provide enough power to start my engine.
>
> I removed the starter motor and had it tested. It jumped to life when exposed
to enough voltage. Therefore this was apparently not the problem.
>
> Measurements initially seemed to indicate that the battery was OK. However, later
it appeared that the battery could not provide enough tension. I removed
it and measured it. It provides almost 11.7 V at present. I reckon that the battery
is, if not the only problem, then one of the problems.
>
> A fellow aircraft owner told me that he believes that the problem is with the
relay. That is why, according to him, in the past I initially had problems in
starting but after several attempts I succeeded. Could this in your opinion be
the case? Does anyone by chance know where can I find a replacement relay, which
companies make suitable relays and what their part numbers are?
>
> As for my battery, it is an Odyssey PC 680 by Enersys. When in the hangar it
is always kept under tension by a battery charger. Is this battery the optimal
choice for a Lycoming O-320 powered RV-6 or RV-6A? Do you know whether any other
batteries would be just as good or better? I have found sources for such a
battery.
>
> Thanks.
>
> George Nielsen
> RV-6 PH-XGN
> The Hague, the Netherlands
>
> P.S. I am sending this on both the RV-6 and Lycoming lists. Please excuse me
if you receive the same message twice.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 |
Hi George,
I would recommend that you post your question to the Aeroelectric forum as well.
Bob Nuckolls & company can give you a lot of good info regarding electrical
components and troubleshooting.
As for who sells starter relays, www.bandc.biz also sells battery and starter contactors.
>From my research the Odyssey PC680 is a great battery and that's what I bought
for my not-yet flying project. I would however recommend that you do a search
on the Aeroelectric site for some specific idiosyncrasies that the PC680 has
in response to trickle charging. If I remember correctly, it can have some adverse
reactions if the wrong charger is used.
Regards,
Wade
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Airdog
Wade Parton
Building Long-EZ 916WP
Z-13/8 System Design
www.longezpush.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424695#424695
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| Subject: | Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320 |
My 2 cents.
I have a PC680 in my IO360 RV8. 100 hrs/yr. I don't particularly do anything
to my battery - no trickle charging, I pretty much ignore it and do as I do
with my car. Get in the plane, contact on, flaps up (electric) and do a cold
start - starts almost immediately. After the flight, flaps down before
shutting down the engine (sometimes I forget flaps down and do that after
shutting down the engine).
I kept my first battery 3 years, changed it when it showed signs of
weakness. One year into the new one works great.
Conclusion is use it normally. No need to trickle charge it constantly.
Regards,
Michle
RV8
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Envoy: mardi 10 juin 2014 19:18
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Objet: LycomingEngines-List: Starting an RV-6 with a Lycoming O-320
--> <genie@swissmail.org>
For several months my RV-6 has experienced starting problems. At first go
the engine would hardly turn as there did not seem to be enough power from
the starter motor. After repeated attempts things would progressively
improve until there was enough power to start the engine.
Since the end of last month the starter motor has simply not been able to
provide enough power to start my engine.
I removed the starter motor and had it tested. It jumped to life when
exposed to enough voltage. Therefore this was apparently not the problem.
Measurements initially seemed to indicate that the battery was OK.
However, later it appeared that the battery could not provide enough
tension. I removed it and measured it. It provides almost 11.7 V at present.
I reckon that the battery is, if not the only problem, then one of the
problems.
A fellow aircraft owner told me that he believes that the problem is with
the relay. That is why, according to him, in the past I initially had
problems in starting but after several attempts I succeeded. Could this in
your opinion be the case? Does anyone by chance know where can I find a
replacement relay, which companies make suitable relays and what their part
numbers are?
As for my battery, it is an Odyssey PC 680 by Enersys. When in the hangar it
is always kept under tension by a battery charger. Is this battery the
optimal choice for a Lycoming O-320 powered RV-6 or RV-6A?
Do you know whether any other batteries would be just as good or better?
I have found sources for such a battery.
Thanks.
George Nielsen
RV-6 PH-XGN
The Hague, the Netherlands
P.S. I am sending this on both the RV-6 and Lycoming lists. Please excuse me
if you receive the same message twice.
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