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Sat 03/18/17


Total Messages Posted: 2



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     1. 12:26 PM - Re: High fuel pressure warning (FLYaDIVE)
     2. 02:24 PM - Re: High fuel pressure warning (Ralph E. Capen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:26:20 PM PST US
    From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: High fuel pressure warning
    Ralph: There are a few issues that can cause this type of result. 1 - Restricted fuel line. 2 - Bad transducer. 3 - Improper setting in the program. Yes I read what you said just REMOVE the old setting and reset it, don't just LQQK at it, re-set it. 4 - Clogged filters. 5 - Clogged / Restricted Injectors. Remove, Clean in Hoppies #9 and reinstall. OH! Do you have GAMI Injectors? If so make sure you put them back in the same cylinder. 6 - FUZZ floating around in the fuel distribution system. I mention this because I had a strange problem that would come and go in a second. It took a LONG time to find the problem since I cleaned the system at least 4 times... A STINKING PIECE OF FUZZ!!! It would ONLY come out and block an injector for a few seconds and then disappear. I don't know where it was hiding but it showed up and caused all sorts of problems. 7 - Question - Problem: Do you see the high pressure when you shut off the BOOST PUMP? 8 - Question - Problem: Do you have a RETURN line going back to the fuel tank? Story: I had the SAME high pressure reading on a friends plane (RV7A)... Every-time he turned on the BOOST PUMP the warning would sound and light would come on. As a precaution and since we were working on the Conditional Inspection we changed the Inline Fuel Filters coming out of each wing. When I did I found BOTH aluminum fuel lines to be crimped down. I cut off the crimped ends and installed a longer rubber tube to the inline fuel filters. Problem Solved. Barry On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net> wrote: > > While flying my RV6A yesterday, I got an intermittent High Pressure warning from my AFS3400EE. The trigger is set to 60 PSI. The boost pump was not on. Fuel flow remained normal and engine ran properly. Aborted the training session, returned to homeplate, and checked for leaks or other evidence of actual overpressure...with no success! > > This is an IO360B1F6 with AFP injection and the FI mechanical pump. > > Can the mechanical pump generate that high of pressure with normal fuel flow? > It was below freezing at altitude but I've never heard of avgas (30% 100LL and 60% ethanol free car gas) getting thicker at low temperatures. > > My current thinking is that I may have something in the Fuel Pressure Sender that either causes it to act like a pressure accumulator or falsely signal high pressure. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated! > >


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    Time: 02:24:10 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: High fuel pressure warning
    Barry, Good stuff to check... I have already done 2 (replaced transducer): I did 3, 4, and 5 7 - with or without boost pump - I get the warning 8 - I have a return line - but it is only used during purge operation (I have AFP injection) Looking @ #6 seriously now! Fleew again today - no issues after resetting (per #3) - it started with 46 PSI before engine start....causing me to reset it.... Really looking @ #6! Thanks, Ralph -----Original Message----- From: owner-lycomingengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-lycomingengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FLYaDIVE Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 3:25 PM Subject: Re: LycomingEngines-List: High fuel pressure warning --> <flyadive@gmail.com> Ralph: There are a few issues that can cause this type of result. 1 - Restricted fuel line. 2 - Bad transducer. 3 - Improper setting in the program. Yes I read what you said just REMOVE the old setting and reset it, don't just LQQK at it, re-set it. 4 - Clogged filters. 5 - Clogged / Restricted Injectors. Remove, Clean in Hoppies #9 and reinstall. OH! Do you have GAMI Injectors? If so make sure you put them back in the same cylinder. 6 - FUZZ floating around in the fuel distribution system. I mention this because I had a strange problem that would come and go in a second. It took a LONG time to find the problem since I cleaned the system at least 4 times... A STINKING PIECE OF FUZZ!!! It would ONLY come out and block an injector for a few seconds and then disappear. I don't know where it was hiding but it showed up and caused all sorts of problems. 7 - Question - Problem: Do you see the high pressure when you shut off the BOOST PUMP? 8 - Question - Problem: Do you have a RETURN line going back to the fuel tank? Story: I had the SAME high pressure reading on a friends plane (RV7A)... Every-time he turned on the BOOST PUMP the warning would sound and light would come on. As a precaution and since we were working on the Conditional Inspection we changed the Inline Fuel Filters coming out of each wing. When I did I found BOTH aluminum fuel lines to be crimped down. I cut off the crimped ends and installed a longer rubber tube to the inline fuel filters. Problem Solved. Barry On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net> wrote: > --> <recapen@earthlink.net> > > While flying my RV6A yesterday, I got an intermittent High Pressure warning from my AFS3400EE. The trigger is set to 60 PSI. The boost pump was not on. Fuel flow remained normal and engine ran properly. Aborted the training session, returned to homeplate, and checked for leaks or other evidence of actual overpressure...with no success! > > This is an IO360B1F6 with AFP injection and the FI mechanical pump. > > Can the mechanical pump generate that high of pressure with normal fuel flow? > It was below freezing at altitude but I've never heard of avgas (30% 100LL and 60% ethanol free car gas) getting thicker at low temperatures. > > My current thinking is that I may have something in the Fuel Pressure Sender that either causes it to act like a pressure accumulator or falsely signal high pressure. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated! > >




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