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1. 12:41 AM - Re: Installing V530 prop (Rob Kent)
2. 04:55 AM - Re: Installing V530 prop (A. Dennis Savarese)
3. 04:58 AM - Re: De-preservation of new M14 (A. Dennis Savarese)
4. 05:43 AM - Re: De-preservation of new M14 (Scott Aldrich)
5. 05:43 AM - Re: Installing V530 prop (Scott Aldrich)
6. 05:53 AM - Re: De-preservation of new M14 (A. Dennis Savarese)
7. 05:59 AM - Re: De-preservation of new M14 (KJKimball@aol.com)
8. 06:21 AM - Re: De-preservation of new M14 (Scott Aldrich)
9. 07:11 AM - Re: De-preservation of new M14 (Fred Messinger (fredm))
10. 02:55 PM - Re: De-preservation of new M14 (KJKimball@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Installing V530 prop |
Scott,
It will be obvious, the prop will only fit in one position due to a locator pin
on the back of the prop between two of the studs.
Regards
Rob Kent
Stores Manager
WLAC - Russian Engineering
www.wlacrussianeng.co.uk
Tel: +44 1628 829 165
Fax: +44 1628 828 961
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From: Scott Aldrich
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:58 AM
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Installing V530 prop
About to install the V530. When I take the lifting shackle off the engine will
it be obvious that the prop goes on the flange in a certain position? If not,
any particular position you are installing them?
Thanks again,
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: Installing V530 prop |
Yes, it can only be placed on the flange in one direction.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Aldrich
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:58 PM
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Installing V530 prop
About to install the V530. When I take the lifting shackle off the engine will
it be obvious that the prop goes on the flange in a certain position? If not,
any particular position you are installing them?
Thanks again,
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: De-preservation of new M14 |
If you've rotated the engine without the plugs and there is no evidence of oil
in the top cylinder, then I wouldn't worry about it. When you de-preserved the
magnetos, did you remove the top cover, lift the distribution cap and make sure
there was no pieces of oil soaked cheesecloth type material in and around
the cam?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Aldrich
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: M14PEngines-List: De-preservation of new M14
I am getting ready to turn the crank shaft for the first time on a new M14 (Russian
preservation). Of course the mags have been de-preserved and the compressor
also.
The manual then talks about removing plugs, manifold drains, etc. It also mentions
moving to TDC and sucking oil out of the top cylinder with a syringe.
Then hooking up fuel pressure to clean out the carburetor, etc..
Are you guys finding it necessary to suck out the top cylinders with a syringe?
Seems I could pull it through with no plugs and then even spin it up with
the air with no plugs?
Any thoughts appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott
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| Subject: | De-preservation of new M14 |
Thanks Dennis.
Yes the oil soaked cheesecloth was in there and I did remove it. Also added
some oil to the lubrication fitting cup and its wick (this engine preserved
new in 1993 - all dehydrator plugs still blue, amazing).
Any other de-preservation pitfalls you can think of?
I know the cloth has been left in the magnetos before.
Thanks again,
Scott
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From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis
Savarese
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: De-preservation of new M14
If you've rotated the engine without the plugs and there is no evidence of
oil in the top cylinder, then I wouldn't worry about it. When you
de-preserved the magnetos, did you remove the top cover, lift the
distribution cap and make sure there was no pieces of oil soaked cheesecloth
type material in and around the cam?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Aldrich <mailto:s-aldrich@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: M14PEngines-List: De-preservation of new M14
I am getting ready to turn the crank shaft for the first time on a new M14
(Russian preservation). Of course the mags have been de-preserved and the
compressor also.
The manual then talks about removing plugs, manifold drains, etc. It also
mentions moving to TDC and sucking oil out of the top cylinder with a
syringe. Then hooking up fuel pressure to clean out the carburetor, etc..
Are you guys finding it necessary to suck out the top cylinders with a
syringe? Seems I could pull it through with no plugs and then even spin it
up with the air with no plugs?
Any thoughts appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott
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| Subject: | Installing V530 prop |
Thanks for the info guys.
Scott
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From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis
Savarese
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Installing V530 prop
Yes, it can only be placed on the flange in one direction.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Aldrich <mailto:s-aldrich@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:58 PM
Subject: M14PEngines-List: Installing V530 prop
About to install the V530. When I take the lifting shackle off the engine
will it be obvious that the prop goes on the flange in a certain position?
If not, any particular position you are installing them?
Thanks again,
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: De-preservation of new M14 |
>From what I've read, I think you've got it covered.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Aldrich
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:43 AM
Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: De-preservation of new M14
Thanks Dennis.
Yes the oil soaked cheesecloth was in there and I did remove it. Also added
some oil to the lubrication fitting cup and its wick (this engine preserved new
in 1993 - all dehydrator plugs still blue, amazing).
Any other de-preservation pitfalls you can think of?
I know the cloth has been left in the magnetos before.
Thanks again,
Scott
From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:58 AM
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: De-preservation of new M14
If you've rotated the engine without the plugs and there is no evidence of oil
in the top cylinder, then I wouldn't worry about it. When you de-preserved
the magnetos, did you remove the top cover, lift the distribution cap and make
sure there was no pieces of oil soaked cheesecloth type material in and around
the cam?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Aldrich
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:55 PM
Subject: M14PEngines-List: De-preservation of new M14
I am getting ready to turn the crank shaft for the first time on a new M14
(Russian preservation). Of course the mags have been de-preserved and the compressor
also.
The manual then talks about removing plugs, manifold drains, etc. It also
mentions moving to TDC and sucking oil out of the top cylinder with a syringe.
Then hooking up fuel pressure to clean out the carburetor, etc..
Are you guys finding it necessary to suck out the top cylinders with a syringe?
Seems I could pull it through with no plugs and then even spin it up with
the air with no plugs?
Any thoughts appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott
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| Subject: | Re: De-preservation of new M14 |
We do the mags and check the cylinders as others have pointed out but always
do the carb de-preservation too. Doesn't take long and you sure get a bunch
of oil and crap out of the various holes in the carb. We have found the
engine much easier to start the first time when the carb treatment is done.
KK
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| Subject: | De-preservation of new M14 |
Thanks, I have read that task card and will check it again. Lots of little
steps blowing air and fuel through various parts if I recall.
.5kgf/cm2 is about 7 psi, correct?
Scott
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From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
KJKimball@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: De-preservation of new M14
We do the mags and check the cylinders as others have pointed out but always
do the carb de-preservation too. Doesn't take long and you sure get a bunch
of oil and crap out of the various holes in the carb. We have found the
engine much easier to start the first time when the carb treatment is done.
KK
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| Subject: | De-preservation of new M14 |
Hey Scott,
Be sure you take videos/pics. I'm waiting/watching very intently!
Fred
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From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Aldrich
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: De-preservation of new M14
Thanks, I have read that task card and will check it again. Lots of
little steps blowing air and fuel through various parts if I recall.
.5kgf/cm2 is about 7 psi, correct?
Scott
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From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
KJKimball@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: De-preservation of new M14
We do the mags and check the cylinders as others have pointed out but
always do the carb de-preservation too. Doesn't take long and you sure
get a bunch of oil and crap out of the various holes in the carb. We
have found the engine much easier to start the first time when the carb
treatment is done.
KK
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| Subject: | Re: De-preservation of new M14 |
Scott,
It doesn't take much pressure to open the circuits in the carb. We normally
use a small piece of 1/4" plastic tubing to apply the pressure by blowing
into it. Typically, it is best to get an assistant to do this for you so you
can make the wise cracks about their lips on one and of the hose with the
other end stuck in the carb hole!
KK
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