---------------------------------------------------------- M14PEngines-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/23/07: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:00 AM - Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian (Jan Mevis) 2. 04:37 AM - Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian (N395V) 3. 04:51 AM - Re: Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian (Jan Mevis) 4. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian (Doug Ripley) 5. 08:33 AM - Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian (N395V) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:00:49 AM PST US From: "Jan Mevis" Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: M-14 russian vs. romanian The Russian mechanics that I know of (Andrei Glukhov, Sergei Makarov; Sergei works for the Russian aerobatic team) consider the romanian engines of lesser quality. Jan -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bart C Sent: vrijdag 22 juni 2007 16:13 Subject: M14PEngines-List: M-14 russian vs. romanian Hi Everyone, If there someone on the list that is familiar enough with the differences between Russian and Romanian manufactured M-14's I'd appreciate it they could provide a brief outline of those differences. In reading through various online articles and forum posts I've picked up that there is something of a bias against the Russian manufactured engines but I'm not sure why. Did either country manufacture the entire engine in house or did one import from the other? Do the PF engines follow the same bloodlines as the different P's or were all of the PF engines made in one place? Thanks in advance. Bart Cocchiola ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:40 AM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian From: "N395V" jan.mevis(at)informavia.b wrote: > The Russian mechanics that I know of (Andrei Glukhov, Sergei Makarov; Sergei > works for the Russian aerobatic team) consider the romanian engines of > lesser quality. > > Jan > > -- Wonder if there is any objective fact behind their consideration or if it may be a bit of pride and nationalism? -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=120190#120190 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:24 AM PST US From: "Jan Mevis" Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian Indeed, I don't think that there are any hard facts to prove these statements besides somes biased subjective impression. During my military service in Germany (many years ago) I had the opportunity to compare Kalashnikovs manufactured in East-Germany (DDR), the soviet union, and Roumania. The German rifle had the best finishing. The Russian rifle was good. The Roumanian was not so well finished, but good enough for the job. They fired equally well all three. Jan -----Original Message----- From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V Sent: zaterdag 23 juni 2007 13:37 Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian jan.mevis(at)informavia.b wrote: > The Russian mechanics that I know of (Andrei Glukhov, Sergei Makarov; Sergei > works for the Russian aerobatic team) consider the romanian engines of > lesser quality. > > Jan > > -- Wonder if there is any objective fact behind their consideration or if it may be a bit of pride and nationalism? -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=120190#120190 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:20 AM PST US From: "Doug Ripley" Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian I've heard the following quote about aerobatic airplanes...... "If it looks good and flys like crap, it's French.....If it looks like crap and flys good, it's Russian.......If it looks good and flys good, it's a Pitts" Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Mevis" Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 6:51 AM Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian > > Indeed, I don't think that there are any hard facts to prove these > statements besides somes biased subjective impression. > > During my military service in Germany (many years ago) I had the opportunity > to compare Kalashnikovs manufactured in East-Germany (DDR), the soviet > union, and Roumania. The German rifle had the best finishing. The Russian > rifle was good. The Roumanian was not so well finished, but good enough for > the job. They fired equally well all three. > > Jan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V > Sent: zaterdag 23 juni 2007 13:37 > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian > > > > > jan.mevis(at)informavia.b wrote: > > The Russian mechanics that I know of (Andrei Glukhov, Sergei Makarov; > Sergei > > works for the Russian aerobatic team) consider the romanian engines of > > lesser quality. > > > > Jan > > > > -- > > > Wonder if there is any objective fact behind their consideration or if it > may be a bit of pride and nationalism? > > -------- > Milt > 2003 F1 Rocket > 2006 Radial Rocket > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=120190#120190 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:02 AM PST US Subject: M14PEngines-List: Re: M-14 russian vs. romanian From: "N395V" psiequipment(at)bellsouth wrote: > I've heard the following quote about aerobatic airplanes....."If it looks good and flys like crap, it's French.....If it looks like crap and flys good, it's Russian.......If it looks good and flys good, it's a Pitts" [Laughing] [Laughing] [Laughing] [Laughing] [Laughing] [Laughing] [Laughing] [Laughing] [Laughing] do not archive -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=120220#120220 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message m14pengines-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/M14PEngines-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/m14pengines-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/m14pengines-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.